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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 01:42:29 No.53822821 View View Reply Original Report

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Designs sure shat the bed in the last few gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 01:57:39 No.53822889 Report

Quoted By: >>53822919 >>53822937 >>53823899 >>53824146 >>53824459 >>53829114

>>53822821
It actually went downhill starting in Gen 3, the cape was really cool in Gen 1/2. Poke Maniac went from maybe someone who was too into battles to a fucking furfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:00:45 No.53822911 Report

Quoted By: >>53824450 >>53830587

the evolution of this design is actually pretty hilarious. it progresses into making fun of charizard fanboys, before gamefreak realizes that they're the charizard fanboys and backpedal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:01:50 No.53822919 Report

Quoted By: >>53822931

>>53822889
I don't mind the mascot suit fanatics but I agree that the older maniac was way cooler. The mascot suit shouldve been a different class.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:03:35 No.53822931 Report

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>>53822919
The suits couldve been like, a movie actor class or performer. Or take the cape design and call it Battle Maniac

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:04:39 No.53822937 Report

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>>53822889
I don't think it's supposed to be a cape so much as a big baggy coat. Maniacs are clearly positioned along with Super Nerds as otaku stereotypes, so it makes a little more sense that later gens tried pivoting them to a cosplay theme.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:09:48 No.53822981 Report

Quoted By: >>53823005 >>53823400 >>53823904 >>53824136 >>53824450 >>53824503

Do people not understand that the gens 1 and 2 pokemaniac are meant to be smelly chunni otaku? Its not a cool cape, its an edgelord trying his hardest to look like the cool villain from his favorite manga series.

As for why they became furfriends, the class obviously parallels those who gamefreak consider the smelliest losers still interested in their products.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:10:31 No.53822988 Report

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>>53822821
Why did GF abandon the biker class, was it considered too mean for kids? Didn't even return in Lets Go

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:11:47 No.53823005 Report

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>>53822981
Remove the rain coat and look confident, this dude could pull the look off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:15:01 No.53823028 Report

Quoted By: >>53823051

>>53822988

They didnt want to make animations for someone riding a motorcycle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:17:55 No.53823051 Report

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>>53823028
>Bikers were killed for 3D
fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:18:12 No.53823058 Report

Quoted By: >>53824488

>>53822821
Gen 9 ruined the pattern of him becoming more degenerate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:20:32 No.53823079 Report

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>>53822821
The charizard impression the RSE one is doing is pure soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:23:20 No.53823111 Report

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The idea changed entirely, that’s why
Maniac more of a freak
Whereas by Gen 3 they wanted an obsessed fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:39:03 No.53823228 Report

Quoted By: >>53828230

>>53822988
They abandoned bikers because they abandoned bikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:42:10 No.53823240 Report

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>>53822821
When did pomf start recognizing SW97?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 02:43:33 No.53823250 Report

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>>53822821
Literally me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 03:16:33 No.53823370 Report

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>>53822821
gen 2 and RSE sprites are the best here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 03:19:03 No.53823387 Report

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>>53822821
It is a reflection of modern society.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 03:22:48 No.53823400 Report

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>>53822981
This. It’s literally just different flavors of otaku cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 06:37:10 No.53823879 Report

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>>53822821
They were so cool and edgy..what happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 06:45:42 No.53823894 Report

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>>53823879
They became furries. Furries should not be allowed anywhere even in fiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 06:48:56 No.53823899 Report

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>>53822821
>last few gens
you clearly mean since gen 3
>>53822889
FPBP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 06:52:50 No.53823904 Report

Quoted By: >>53824503 >>53830649

>>53822981
They should make a chuuni class that's a trainer that only uses stereotypical "cool"(in the japanese sense) and "edgy" mons, like Lucario, Scizor, Arcanine, the Charcadet family, and so on.
It should be a kid around 13-14. Maybe Gladion can be the blueprint for the design. Or maybe they can literally be the "Middle-schooler" class, and could wear a gakuran school uniform with some edgy accessories to stand out. Like headphones, maybe headphones could work.
They could have a cocky expression when battling and then have their childish side come out in their loss animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 06:58:02 No.53823914 Report

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>>53822821
They've been shitting the bed sine Gen 5 when they just did "gen 1 but worse" for 90% of the designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 08:55:54 No.53824136 Report

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>>53822981
The problem is that designing a character who is supposed to look like a cool manga character, actually looks like one when you draw him in a manga style

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 08:58:55 No.53824146 Report

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>>53822889
the gen 2 sprite is probably my favorite. he's totally the shitter who would say shit like "now you've unleashed my rage!!" and other weird anime-ass quips without an ounce of irony

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 09:00:24 No.53824149 Report

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>>53823879
>They were so cool and edgy
No they weren't. They were chunni tryhards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 10:30:52 No.53824382 Report

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ace trainer but then they dropped them completely

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 10:52:38 No.53824450 Report

Quoted By: >>53825751 >>53829127

>>53822911
>>53822981
He's supposed to be a kaiju fan, who obviously tend to be weird otaku, and gf would obviously have quite a few kaiju autists if they were gen x ers making a monster game in the 90s. It's joke poking fun of themselves. The fursuit is meant to be those rubber suits kaiju actors wire

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 10:55:36 No.53824459 Report

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>>53822889
They should've kept his school shooter trench coat instead of the cape. It shows that he's some nerd but also still makes him look cool. Though I guess the cape is more chuuni

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 11:03:10 No.53824488 Report

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>>53823058
He looks like a guy who collects and reviews funko pops now so I'd say it still fits the theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 11:05:58 No.53824503 Report

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>>53822981
I look like this
>>53823904
>only uses stereotypical "cool"(in the japanese sense) and "edgy" mons, like Lucario, Scizor, Arcanine, the Charcadet family, and so on
And I do this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 12:28:08 No.53824750 Report

Quoted By: >>53824762

>>53822821
Let's Go has the best one tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 12:31:56 No.53824762 Report

Quoted By: >>53824767

>>53824750
It's the worse, I can at least buy the idea of someone going out dressed like gen 9's guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 12:33:23 No.53824766 Report

Quoted By: >>53825703 >>53826134

Why is geb 4's not even in a real pokemon suit like the others

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 12:33:58 No.53824767 Report

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>>53824762
Gen 9 guy should've a different model for each gen. Would be so much cooler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 17:04:25 No.53825703 Report

Quoted By: >>53826134

>>53824766
They didn't want to insult CHARIZARD anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 17:14:53 No.53825751 Report

Quoted By: >>53825773 >>53826860

>>53824450
not everything is about "muh kaiju"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 17:19:51 No.53825773 Report

Quoted By: >>53829127

>>53825751
This time it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 18:39:27 No.53826134 Report

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>>53824766
>>53825703
>only costume available was a clearanced out ROCK RHINO at Spirit Halloween

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 20:24:20 No.53826741 Report

Quoted By: >>53826837

the legpee one is pretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 20:40:26 No.53826837 Report

Quoted By: >>53826912

>>53826741
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 20:43:05 No.53826860 Report

Quoted By: >>53828236 >>53829127

>>53825751
His name is literally fucking "Kaiju Maniac" in Japanese.
かいじゅうマニア -> Kaijuu Mania -> Kaiju Maniac -> PokéManiac.
Broken down since you're a sped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 20:49:25 No.53826912 Report

Quoted By: >>53827659

>>53826837
It's disturbing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 21:28:02 No.53827156 Report

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SV designs don't belong to this franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 21:35:33 No.53827201 Report

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>>53822821
He's just like me, until gen 6

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 22:09:13 No.53827363 Report

Quoted By: >>53828724

>>53822821
Gen 8 still had some good NPC designs but everything in Gen 9 looks like shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:12:04 No.53827659 Report

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>>53826912
Dear fuck you're right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:14:24 No.53827665 Report

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>>53822821
Yes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:17:36 No.53827678 Report

Quoted By: >>53827712 >>53827765

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:26:32 No.53827712 Report

Quoted By: >>53827722 >>53827746 >>53827765 >>53827774 >>53827853

>>53827678
People complain about jobmons but no one talks about job trainers. Thing that was cool about lot of gym leaders is that their just cool dudes who trained hard. They werent defined by their jobs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:28:20 No.53827722 Report

Quoted By: >>53827853

>>53827712
I absolutely love that Brock is just a guy. He's the guyest guy that ever guyed and he's the first obstacle in your adventure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:33:48 No.53827746 Report

Quoted By: >>53827765 >>53827771 >>53827853 >>53827950 >>53828241

>>53827712
Let's just look at Gen 1
>Brock
He is just a dude, it seems
>Misty
Swimmer, dresses pretty professionally for it in most art of her
>Lt. Surge
Vaguely military
>Erika
I don't know what she is, but I'm sure some fucking weeb will tell me
>Koga
Ninja, if that's a job
>Sabrina
Doesn't really have a job, but the Dojo right next door is self explanatory
>Blaine
Scientist
>Giovanni
Mob boss, if that's a job
It's about half and half, depending on how you count it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:38:12 No.53827765 Report

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>>53827712
>>53827678
This is gross. And what's worse is that flattening the gym leaders makes them already more boring than the title of "Type ace" already makes them. RSE was the start of this and of the pixel games, it by far has the worst gym leader line up.

>>53827746
>Obviously missed the point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:39:40 No.53827771 Report

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>>53827746
I guess its less about *having a job* and more about that job being their whole character. Blaine is a scientist yes, but like- he is also just like. A guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:40:18 No.53827774 Report

Quoted By: >>53827798

>>53827712
One thing I like about most of the Johto Leaders is that they were basically "Boss" versions of existing Trainer Classes, which is why they felt far more naturalised into the world.
>Falkner
Bird Keeper
>Bugsy
Bug Catcher
>Whitney
Lass
>Morty
No equivalent, but could pass as a Cooltrainer (M) or a Channeler/Medium in function (spiritually-attuned Ghost user).
>Chuck
Blackbelt
>Jasmine
No equivalent, but in the Gen 2 beta she looked more like a typical miko, so could've been related to the Kimono Girls (which was a generic class at the time, I believe). Still, she could pass as the nicer and less mean Gen 1 Lass.
>Pryce
Gentleman
>Clair
Cooltrainer (F)
And it extends to the new E4s, as well:
>Will
Juggler/Psychic hybrid
>Karen
Beauty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2023 23:45:57 No.53827798 Report

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>>53827774
>Karen is the final boss Beauty
hot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 00:00:50 No.53827853 Report

Quoted By: >>53827920

>>53827712
>>53827722
>>53827746
I feel like there's a direct correlation between having a good amount of "guys who guy" and the game's quality as a whole. Maybe it has something to do with how detached the modern generations are from the original vision.
Like, you'd never see someone like Brock anymore. Every gym leader in Kalos, Galar, and Paldea has another job outside of being a gym leader.

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 00:18:33 No.53827920 Report

Quoted By: >>53827925

>>53827853
I think Alola strikes a nice balance with the trial captains/kahunas. Some are clearly fully invested in their roles while others seem to just be having fun or don't really give much of a shit and have better things to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 00:19:37 No.53827925 Report

Quoted By: >>53827945

>>53827920
This is true, just wish they weren't stuck in such a shitty game.

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 00:23:48 No.53827945 Report

Quoted By: >>53828714

>>53827925
Still by far the best games of the 3D era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 00:25:10 No.53827950 Report

Quoted By: >>53828150

>>53827746
>I don't know what she is, but I'm sure some fucking weeb will tell me
she's this weird thing they have over in nipponland called a "woman"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 01:21:55 No.53828150 Report

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>>53827950
Women? We have something like that here...just well, a lot uglier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 01:39:36 No.53828230 Report

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>>53823228
>they abandoned bikes
They made a bike Pokémon in Gen 9. They made super versions of said bike Pokémon as the game's mascots. Now I hate Game Freak even more for not giving us Galarian Bikers on clown bikes in the water and Paldean Bikers on or with Cyclizar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 01:41:30 No.53828236 Report

Quoted By: >>53828250

>>53826860
does this make slowpoke a kaiju

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 01:42:34 No.53828241 Report

Quoted By: >>53828254

>>53827746
is blaine a scientist in the games or just the manga

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 01:44:58 No.53828250 Report

Quoted By: >>53829127

>>53828236
According to the Egg Groups, yes. In Japanese, Monster is Kaiju and Poké Maniac is Kaiju Maniac. It's also why Poké Maniacs specialize in Pokémon from that Egg Group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 01:46:17 No.53828254 Report

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>>53828241
Go play the kanto games kid.

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 03:23:51 No.53828652 Report

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 03:39:28 No.53828714 Report

Quoted By: >>53828854

>>53827945
Gen 7, specifically the Ultra games was the last time I felt like they tried, I never played them but I hear the first versions were garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 03:40:06 No.53828720 Report

Quoted By: >>53830512

There was one super nerd in the FRLG rock tunnel who always irritated the fuck out of me as a kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 03:40:43 No.53828724 Report

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>>53827363
now post her howling

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 04:14:05 No.53828854 Report

Quoted By: >>53829111

>>53828714
Other way around, SM are kino and USUM are souless cashgrabs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 05:22:15 No.53829111 Report

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>>53828854
Well at least we can agree the Gen had a good pair of games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 05:23:31 No.53829114 Report

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>>53822889
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 05:26:14 No.53829127 Report

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>>53828250
>>53826860
>>53825773
>>53824450
based intellectuals

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 15:04:50 No.53830475 Report

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Gen 6's is the best, just look at fucking sperging a RAWR out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 15:13:11 No.53830512 Report

Quoted By: >>53830838

>>53828720
Why did he piss you off?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 15:29:43 No.53830576 Report

Quoted By: >>53830831

NPC designs definitely have gotten a lot worse especially in Gen 9, but one that they did very well is the Dragon Tamer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 15:31:33 No.53830587 Report

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>>53822911
obsessed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 15:39:27 No.53830625 Report

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>>53822821
Gen 2's was the best desu, the big coat looks sick
I think turning him into a weird furry was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 15:45:17 No.53830649 Report

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>>53823904
I actually like this
It would give more personality to trainer types if the pokemon they had were more thematically consistent instead of usually being either broadly type based or sometimes just arbitrary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 16:27:01 No.53830831 Report

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>>53830576
>no cape
It is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2023 16:29:41 No.53830838 Report

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>>53830512
I don't remember desu, I think it was Ashton though

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