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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 17:41:28 No.53840912 View View Reply Original Report

now that the dust has setted, can we state they're the best set of rivals to date?

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 17:47:50 No.53840945 Report

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 17:50:04 No.53840956 Report

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>>53840912
yes

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 17:53:02 No.53840965 Report

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>>53840912
they really arent...
Fucking barry was a better rival
HAU was a better rival. and i fucking hate hau

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 17:54:43 No.53840971 Report

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>>53840912
Kill Penny, Spit on Penny.
Nemona can stay if she gets her mouth taped.
Arven is based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 17:55:03 No.53840974 Report

Quoted By: >>53841063

>>53840912
Did not pay. Did not play. Don't care. Go back to discord

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 17:59:31 No.53840997 Report

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>>53840912
FUCK no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:06:07 No.53841020 Report

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>>53840912
I like Arven and Nemona, but penny is a boring character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:06:32 No.53841023 Report

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>>53840965
>Fucking barry was a better rival
aaaand here's the bait
>HAU was a better rival.
but trolling is against the rules

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:06:33 No.53841024 Report

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>>53840912
I'd barely count them as rivals aside from Nemona, and while she's fun, she's also far from the best

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:09:14 No.53841037 Report

Quoted By: >>53841391

>>53840912
Absolutely. Especially compared to the fucking faggot friends in Kalos. God I hated them so, so much.
Turns out getting to know people before they become your friends and having some harmless conflicts going between them is a million times more interesting than a group of literally who's who act like they are your best buddies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:10:29 No.53841045 Report

Quoted By: >>53841052

>>53840912
Why is Penny facing the other way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:11:36 No.53841052 Report

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>>53841045
Because she's not important and has her own friends

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:12:18 No.53841053 Report

Quoted By: >>53841089

Nemona was a very good compromise as far as rivals go. She’s competitive without being an asshole, so she can be your friend and still want to test herself against you.
Arven I feel is more of a better character than a rival. I can get behind a boy who wants to help his pupper heal and recover from serious injuries, and he was pretty compelling the whole way through the Titan missions and great in area 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:14:05 No.53841063 Report

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>>53840974
Cared enough to reply :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:18:21 No.53841089 Report

Quoted By: >>53841106

>>53841053
>AI generator
kys pedo freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:20:43 No.53841102 Report

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>>53841063
You sound like a poor person obsessed with replies. So here's another (You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:21:21 No.53841106 Report

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>>53841089
>AI=pedo
?
Oh…… it’s retarded

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:22:33 No.53841110 Report

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>You sound like a poor person obsessed with replies. So here's another (You)
Also, poor enough to buy both games at launch, right?

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:25:09 No.53841122 Report

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>Also, poor enough to buy both games at launch, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:26:59 No.53841132 Report

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>>53840912
arven was a friend
nemona was a rival
penny deserves death

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:27:27 No.53841134 Report

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>Thinks I care about GF as a company

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 18:28:31 No.53841142 Report

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>>53841110
>I'm proud enough to tell everyone on /vp/ that I bought both games at launch even though I'm basically penniless
Holy shit that's embarrassing as fuck

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 19:08:27 No.53841319 Report

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>>53840912
I wanna fuck all of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 19:28:16 No.53841391 Report

Quoted By: >>53841407

>>53841037
Shauna was fuckable. If only she had been alone instead of in a group she would be more liked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 19:33:18 No.53841407 Report

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>>53841391
Shauna was ok but I didn't care too much about her either
I just really wanted to strangle everyone else especially that faggy stupid ginger kid

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 20:49:15 No.53841767 Report

Quoted By: >>53841867 >>53842091

Best rival or not I want to know what type of underwear Nemona would wear.
With a sporty attitude id say sports bra and panties but the miss perfect at academics angle makes me believe she wears lacey sexy bra and thong/side-tie underwear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 20:54:22 No.53841783 Report

Quoted By: >>53841787 >>53850182

>>53840912
They're a decent bunch. Better than Galar's and Kalos's absolutely.
But far from the best.
Arven was the best character and even then he was discount Lillie.
Nemona was fine but she really needed some conflict.
Penny was trash. You know her "twist" the second you meet her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 20:55:28 No.53841787 Report

Quoted By: >>53842091 >>53842205

>>53841783
Arven is improved Lillie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 21:13:08 No.53841859 Report

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>>53841319
They cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 21:14:32 No.53841867 Report

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>>53841767
Only for someone she likes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 21:19:49 No.53841899 Report

Quoted By: >>53842080

>>53840912
SV didn't do the best of literally anything. They all around sucked, worse than even SWSH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 21:58:24 No.53842080 Report

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>>53841899
t. Didn't play it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 22:00:00 No.53842091 Report

Quoted By: >>53842172 >>53847388 >>53847401

>>53841767
God I wish that was me
>>53841787
Lies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 22:00:32 No.53842098 Report

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>>53840912
Yeah because I want to have vaginal sex with Penny while we watch some shitty anime together

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Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 22:13:01 No.53842172 Report

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>>53841867
That doesn't answer the question anon, she could think her sports bra is her sexy underwear for her future bf/gf but I wanna know which she wears regularly.
>>53842091
Go outside, check the first bush near your home im sure there's a girl like her behind it rn.
>>53842098
Depending on the anime it could encourage this behavior

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 22:19:19 No.53842205 Report

Quoted By: >>53842285 >>53850160

>>53841787
This is the first time I've seen someone say that.
Agreed, he is pretty much the same character trope as Lillie but with actual depth and a motivation beyond family issues. And unlike Lillie he had to accept that his family died by the end instead of a deus ex machina of friendship.
That said Nemona is just spamming the fight button and Penny has a background less interesting than gen 6 "rivals". And that's a feat of bad writing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 22:43:59 No.53842285 Report

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>>53842205
Arven is also largely independent as a character, he only needs help with the titans. Lillie can't do shit on her own, so we constantly have to hold her hand and slog through her(!) cutscenes. That makes her far more annoying than Arven. People just like her more because they can coom to her
And Nemona isn't that bad. The Area Zero and postgame stuff shows that she has pretty much literal autism which makes it hard for her to find friends. Battling is her special interest and she saw your potential which is why she's instantly clinging to you
Penny definitely needed more time in the oven though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 May 2023 23:42:04 No.53842564 Report

Quoted By: >>53843876 >>53845400

>>53840912
>rivals
Arven and Nemona are your spouses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 06:31:20 No.53843876 Report

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>>53842564
Based and true

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 15:40:11 No.53845400 Report

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>>53842564
Imagine the threesomes...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 18:04:16 No.53846050 Report

Quoted By: >>53846225 >>53846269 >>53846312

Ok, so like, legit discussion, what do people actually like about previous rivals? Mostly the "asshole" rivals, they just don't seem to have that much more personality than any other rival. And if they do, I would actually like to know

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 18:38:13 No.53846225 Report

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>>53846050
It's just a mix of nostalgia and the fact that it feels more satisfying to kick someone's ass in a battle when they're assholes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 18:43:19 No.53846259 Report

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>>53840912
I still like the rude rival more.
But when it comes to the friendly rival team, these are the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 18:44:54 No.53846269 Report

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>>53846050
Assholes are just good rival material.
Someone telling you, "Smell ya later" is perfectly hateable so kicking his ass feels good at a basic level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 18:49:27 No.53846291 Report

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>>53840912
Fuck no

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 18:53:43 No.53846312 Report

Quoted By: >>53846898 >>53850163

>>53846050
>Blue Oak
Terrible mouth, but if you look closely, he was actually a wholesome guy who would give you tips when you need them the most.
>Silver Giovanni
Probably the only true asshole rival in the mainline games. I like how he was desperate to get stronger but if you don't have Mystery Gift, you'll never know his true motive.
>Wally
The games managed to portray his progress from a dying weakling with asthma to someone who can serve as your stepping stone despite being a tertiary character who serve literally zero purpose to the progression of the story.
>Barry
Fucking obnoxious
>Hugh
I like him. But crusading against a dangerous terrorist group just for the sake of retrieving a fucking Purrloin is just plain dumb.
>Shauna
Made for sex. I can't remember the others. Even a random tree in Santalune Forest is more memorable than them.
>Gladion
Hugh 2.0
>Hop
Hau 2.0

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 20:51:08 No.53846898 Report

Quoted By: >>53849488

>>53846312
What about May/Brendan, Cheren/Bianca and Serena Calem?
Also I hardly consider Wally a rival in the slightest, you only get one real fight with him at the end, but I did like the ORAS version for giving slightly more depth

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 22:14:01 No.53847388 Report

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>>53842091
>you will never get looked at like this

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2023 22:15:51 No.53847401 Report

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>>53842091
>you will never get looked at like this

uploaded the wrong one

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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 04:45:44 No.53849200 Report

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>>53847401
Cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 06:47:14 No.53849488 Report

Quoted By: >>53849495

>>53846898
I purposely excluded protag characters because they aren't true rivals in most cases. They act more like assistants than rivals

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 06:50:39 No.53849495 Report

Quoted By: >>53850240 >>53850446

>>53849488
Oh wait. Cheren/Bianca. Forgot about them because I tend to replay BW2 more than BW. I can say that Cheren was like Blue but a whole lot more polite. Bianca was like Shauna and Lillie, a weak and typical femme fatale

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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 07:06:51 No.53849517 Report

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>>53840912
No. Rivals were only good in the first 2 gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 10:57:19 No.53850007 Report

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>>53840912
Arven was fun. Nemona was generic but somewhat enjoyable. I wanted to trip Penny in Area Zero and watch her body fall down until it landed into tiny bloody bits, then feed the bits to my paradox Salamence

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 11:53:00 No.53850106 Report

Quoted By: >>53850410

>>53840912
Nobody seems to care about Penny but the amount of lust Nemona and Arven have provoked among fans is insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 11:56:26 No.53850114 Report

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>>53840912
Only one person here is a rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 12:10:36 No.53850160 Report

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>>53842205
>actual depth and a motivation beyond family issues
such as?
> instead of a deus ex machina of friendship.
What deus ex machina?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 12:12:01 No.53850163 Report

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>>53846312
>The games managed to portray his progress from a dying weakling with asthma to someone who can serve as your stepping stone
They didn't.
And I'm a big Hoennfag but that was always an issue with those games and ORAS didn't do shit to solve them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 12:17:29 No.53850182 Report

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>>53841783
arven is lili well done this last game during is no more a pretty accessory and that's it and the only moments of development that he has are during the bridge and when mother yells at him being very anticlimactic and then he goes off to kanto while growing arven is more costly having to change and accept your reality

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 12:36:18 No.53850240 Report

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>>53849495
>Bianca was like Shauna and Lillie, a weak and typical femme fatale
>femme fatale
That is not how that word is used in the slightest.
>mysterious, beautiful, and seductive woman whose charms ensnare her lovers

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Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 13:46:27 No.53850410 Report

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>>53850106
To be fair, Penny has her own close friends in Team Star, so she isn't really supposed to have a close connection to the MC I think. Arven and Nemona are actually the MC's friends, Arven even calls them his best friend iirc.
Doesn't help that her design is by far the weakest out of the three.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2023 14:03:17 No.53850446 Report

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>>53849495
>a weak and typical femme fatale
I don't think you know what femme fatale means.

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