>>53864480>Shitty, drawn out cutscenesOne or two, tops. Nowhere near compared to gen 5 stopping you every 5 seconds to listen to your bland, annoying rivals ramble for 5 minutes or listen to N pontificate about nonsense.
>Boring one-dimensional charactersThe only boring one-dimensional character in Gen 4 is Cyrus, but at least he's not diet Giovanni like ghetsis.
>Terrible region designSinnoh is leagues better than Unova or anything after. Non-Jap regions suck ass.
>Awful Pokemon designsGen 4 had fantastic designs. Luxray, Torterra, Starraptor, Gastrodon pink, the list goes on and on.
>Terrible gameplay changesPhysical/special split was the single best change to gameplay in the whole franchise. It was a buff to 80-90% of the entire dex.
Gen 5 was a disaster and was what put me off of pokemon for nearly a decade until I finally played gen 6 in 2018 via emulator, and if that was bad gen 7 was the worst. It was so bad I never finished it and haven't bought a game since.
>>53864483Unova was the beginning of the end because, as explained, it commits every sin XY does. ALl of them. And is arguably worse, because you have to use the shitty bootleg gen 1 clones instead of actually good gen 1 pokemon for the entire game. at least XY let me use good pokemon and let me ditch the shitty ugly starters for actually good ones 5 minutes in.
Alola is way worse than either though. So many shitty baby tutorials you can't skip and cutscenes every 30 seconds. Absolutely the lowest point in the franchise.
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>>53864472Black and white sold like shit and it's because of all the things you dumb unovabort zoomers blame XY for. XY just amplified all the problems and that continues even to this day, to the point the modern games are completely unrecognizable as pokemon games.