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>>53871691
I don't get the animosity toward voltorb flip. There was always some 50/50 BS as you got far, but I could always rack up a lot of coins for free and get good TMs earlygame, unlike the prior games where I'd just have to buy coins and spend all my cash later on. they should still have let you buy coins though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 14:35:05 No.53871866 Report

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>>53871701
You don't get to lecture anyone about how English works ESL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 16:30:04 No.53872324 Report

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Just use a solver

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 16:32:29 No.53872334 Report

Quoted By: >>53872380

>>53871691
Bro just savestate before flipping, dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 16:39:56 No.53872380 Report

Quoted By: >>53872452

>>53872334
Why save state when you can RNG manipulate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 16:40:59 No.53872385 Report

Quoted By: >>53872402 >>53872460

>>53871691
Unironically a skill issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 16:46:46 No.53872402 Report

Quoted By: >>53872404

>>53872385
its not tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 16:48:43 No.53872404 Report

Quoted By: >>53872467 >>53872479

>>53872402
Either save state, use an online voltorb flip guesser, or actually learn how to play voltorb flip. Seriously Anon it's that simple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:06:25 No.53872452 Report

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>>53872380
Anon, using savestate IS one of RNG manipulation methods...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:09:11 No.53872460 Report

Quoted By: >>53872500

>>53872385
>>53871695
>>53871697
You 3 underaged faggots need to get off this website immediatly, you need to be 18 year old or older to post here anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:10:41 No.53872467 Report

Quoted By: >>53872475 >>53872500

>>53872404
NTA, but even a solver will get down to 50/50 odds eventually, and if the only other way to win is to literally cheat and manipulate the game, I think the game is poorly designed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:13:04 No.53872475 Report

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>>53872467
Yes that's how luck works. Yes this universe is poorly designed. Or else I would be a billionaire by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:13:53 No.53872479 Report

Quoted By: >>53872500 >>53872780

>>53872404
even if you pick the optimal moves with the calculator you’ll still be forced to eventually make an amount of 50/50 guesses that’d give minesweeper players a heart attack.
when you boil the game down getting gud is just seeing how many focus blasts you can hit before you miss and get kicked back to level 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:16:20 No.53872489 Report

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Voltorb Flip was based despite it being a product of censorship, they should've brought it back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:17:08 No.53872495 Report

Quoted By: >>53874987 >>53875289 >>53876335

there's a perfect solver that works by using rng
https://scotteh.me/voltorb/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:17:34 No.53872500 Report

Quoted By: >>53872540

>>53872460
>>53872467
>>53872479

You guys either have the worst luck to call this minigame shit or you just simply... need to get good at playing Voltorb flip... faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:19:13 No.53872505 Report

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lol git gud noob

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:29:19 No.53872540 Report

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>>53872500
Why would i waste my time playing Minesweeper when i can just grind money in Platinum and trade over the TMs to HGSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 17:52:35 No.53872623 Report

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Voltorb flip is addictive and, in my opinion, the only game corner minigame that's worth playing as there's actual strategy behind it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 18:36:57 No.53872780 Report

Quoted By: >>53873470 >>53874959

>>53872479
Yeah fag, and in case when you have big number of coins amassed and 50/50 on next move guess what is the best move?
Forfeiting. You just give up, keep whatever you already collected and start again from level 1.
Voltorb Flip is pretty damn easy when you turn off your "REEEE I NEED ALWAYS TO WIIIIIN!" mentality and realize that in case of doubt best option is just to give up, keep your coins and start again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 21:43:40 No.53873470 Report

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>>53872780
as far as I know, if you were already above it in level, you'll only drop to level 1 if you flipped 0 or 1 tiles before quitting

the difference of the amount of coins you can get in level 1 vs level 8 is quite dramatic though (between 24-48 in level 1, and 2187-3456 in level 8)

I can post the full ranges for each level if you're interested

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 21:48:24 No.53873482 Report

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lol git gud noob

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 21:49:45 No.53873489 Report

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>>53871691
I think its lame, I wish the GC had more options in terms of minigames. Give me pinball damn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2023 22:01:43 No.53873533 Report

Quoted By: >>53874800

>>53871691
it was to teach you gambling is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 02:56:44 No.53874800 Report

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>>53873533
It is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 03:28:54 No.53874959 Report

Quoted By: >>53875161

>>53872780
t. faggot who plays on emulator with 4x speed

On an actual cartridge playing Voltorb Flip feeding the information into a solver you only get around 2-3k coins per hour because of how unlikely you are to win past level 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 03:30:14 No.53874970 Report

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It's stupidly fucking easy, it only requires basic arithmetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 03:34:35 No.53874987 Report

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>>53872495
Holy shit, it actually works

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:08:13 No.53875151 Report

Quoted By: >>53875178

>>53871701
certain accents absolutely pronounce it in that manner

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:09:26 No.53875159 Report

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>picross + minesweeper but without the fun parts of either
awful

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:10:06 No.53875161 Report

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>>53874959
All pokemon games before SwSh runs at a snail pace even on emulator, can you blame him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:14:44 No.53875178 Report

Quoted By: >>53875216

>>53875151
Yes, the wrong ones.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:20:30 No.53875212 Report

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>>53871701

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:21:47 No.53875216 Report

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>>53875178
>prescriptivism
dilettante

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:48:13 No.53875289 Report

Quoted By: >>53875310

>>53872495
Gave it an honest shot after looking through the script's code.

Doesn't actually work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:52:50 No.53875310 Report

Quoted By: >>53875330

>>53875289
Is your DS's time synced with local time on your computer? Did you save right in front of Voltorb Flip before starting the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:56:53 No.53875330 Report

Quoted By: >>53875341

>>53875310
Yes and yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 04:58:33 No.53875341 Report

Quoted By: >>53875365

>>53875330
And you opened Voltorb Flip, started game 1, immediately quit and put in that board?
Bizarre

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 05:04:00 No.53875365 Report

Quoted By: >>53875379 >>53876428

>>53875341
Two questions for you.

It worked for you and you had roamers free or no?

I know Roamers advance primary RNG and that Voltorb Flip uses secondary RNG but according to this calculator it advances the secondary RNG for each roamer which may or not be correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 05:08:51 No.53875379 Report

Quoted By: >>53875495

>>53875365
It worked for me and I had Entei and Raikou out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 05:27:28 No.53875495 Report

Quoted By: >>53875500 >>53875517

>>53875379
Just doesn't work for me I guess lmao

Have a DS capture card so I can prove I'm not full of shit https://streamable.com/qq2n5c

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 05:28:51 No.53875500 Report

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>>53875495
Nevermind I'm just a fucking retard my American brain has been putting in noon lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 05:31:56 No.53875517 Report

Quoted By: >>53875538

>>53875495
Your DS clock is set to May 28, but localtime is May 29

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 05:36:39 No.53875538 Report

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>>53875517
Yeah I was setting it to 11:50 or whatever instead of 23:50 and it didn't roll over I'm just a dumbass

It works

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 09:10:21 No.53876285 Report

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>>53871691
>the retard is still seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 09:17:10 No.53876311 Report

Quoted By: >>53877533

>>53871865
This. It was quick and easy to get coins, while the casino games were so slow I never bothered and just bought coins instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 09:26:27 No.53876335 Report

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>>53872495
50000 coins in 8 minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 09:57:59 No.53876428 Report

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>>53875365
you're right, good catch. this was based on a misunderstanding I had that roamers advanced the MTRNG, so it'll probably be renamed or removed in the next version.

it shouldn't have prevented it working since it does try 0 advances first, but in all testing I've done since it's always been 0 advances even on games with all 3 roamers active, so this is probably unnecessary

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 10:48:52 No.53876561 Report

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>>53871691
Git Gud
Voltorb Flip is fine.
What ISN'T fine is that you can't buy coins anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 10:52:06 No.53876572 Report

Quoted By: >>53877462 >>53877543 >>53878205 >>53879003

Voltorb Flip is not skill-based and I have never seen a single shill adequately explain how it is. It turns into pure chance after the easy part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 14:46:59 No.53877462 Report

Quoted By: >>53880134

>>53876572
The skill is knowing when to quit and when to push your luck, similar to mahjong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 14:55:37 No.53877498 Report

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>>53871691
I've actually been playing voltorb flip a lot recently, with that one site that emulates it (not the solver)
It's strangely addicting
I don't know why anyone would prefer to play some shitty slots

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 15:03:30 No.53877533 Report

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>>53876311
I never bothered with this, I just bought shit.
I was surprised to learn many people cared enough to bother with the casino's removal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 15:04:57 No.53877543 Report

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>>53876572
lol git gud noob

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 17:03:43 No.53878205 Report

Quoted By: >>53878444

>>53876572
>gambling requiring luck is...le bad!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 17:40:22 No.53878444 Report

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>>53878205
Yeah but IRL-cash lootboxes are totally kosher according to ESRB

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 17:48:09 No.53878490 Report

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It's literally the game corner. No shit it's luck-based, it's supposed to be the sanitized Western stand-in for gambling. The fact that you can actually calculate which tiles give you the best odds adds an element of skill and makes it an excellent minigame.

What isn't excellent is the fact that you can't buy coins, like you could with the slot machines. Rather than having the option to play a bad minigame you're now forced to play a good one, which many players will see as a downside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 19:03:17 No.53879003 Report

Quoted By: >>53880134

>>53876572
>after the easy part
And by that, do you mean "after I blindly follow what the Voltorb Flip solver told me"? Because you don't get the right to complain about Voltorb Flip if you use a solver.
You didn't beat it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 22:09:49 No.53880134 Report

Quoted By:

>>53879003
>>53877462
the probability-based solver often fails as early as level 3, and it's VERY slow going in early rounds (which you will drop back to if you quit out too early into a game)

see the post I made earlier about how dramatically the coins you can get per level varies

alternatively, the full numbers are as follows:

Level 1: 24 - 48
Level 2: 54 - 96
Level 3: 108 - 192
Level 4: 216 - 324
Level 5: 384 - 576
Level 6: 648 - 972
Level 7: 1152 - 1728
Level 8: 2187 - 3456

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 22:24:03 No.53880213 Report

Quoted By: >>53880646 >>53882413

>there are actually people on this board who can't understand the basic arithmetic you need to completely steamroll this game
Jesus Christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2023 23:33:44 No.53880646 Report

Quoted By: >>53882030

>>53880213
It is literally impossible to "steamroll" this game, because you will inevitably be given a coinflip random choice at some point shortly after you begin winning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 03:59:37 No.53882030 Report

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>>53880646
TSMT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 05:41:00 No.53882413 Report

Quoted By:

>>53880213
It's fucking addicting once you actually know what you're doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 May 2023 05:48:57 No.53882436 Report

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>>53871691
Fuck the roulette, fuck the slots, and fuck Al Qaeda flip. Give me blackjack already so I can actually win at this shit.
I hate that good TMs are behind grinds or stupidly expensive buys (one of the TMs cost like $1500, and you must spend like $150000 in coins)

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