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Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:25:10 No.53919076 View View Reply Original Report

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>used to be the strongest water starter of them all
>now it’s worse than sammushit
what went so wrong, frogbros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:26:31 No.53919080 Report

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>>53919076
You know it’s because HOME was just released, right? Samurott could drop next month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:28:27 No.53919094 Report

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>>53919080
Your first mistake was assuming smogon screenshot posters actually play the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:28:32 No.53919095 Report

Quoted By: >>53919919

>>53919076
Game freak are a bunch of autists that need everything to be stronger than anything that came before it, they don't comprehend how that makes everything else pathetically weak. Wouldn't surprise me if they make starters have more base stats than original legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:29:23 No.53919099 Report

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>>53919076
Protean nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:30:22 No.53919106 Report

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>>53919076
For one thing Protean was nerfed, only triggering once per switch-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:30:46 No.53919111 Report

Quoted By: >>53919323

>>53919076
Both of these faggots will be in UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:30:56 No.53919113 Report

Quoted By: >>53919127 >>53919262 >>53919881 >>53920293 >>53923452 >>53924919

>>53919076
>nerfed his ability
>nerfed his other ability
>nerfed him in Smash
>nerfed in the anime
Greninja has suffered so much abuse over the years

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:33:00 No.53919127 Report

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>>53919113
and all of it because charizardfags felt threatened by it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:49:03 No.53919222 Report

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>>53919076
because it was more popular than CHARIZARD

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:49:53 No.53919227 Report

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>>53919076
he tried to outshine CHARIZARD in popularity

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 18:54:44 No.53919262 Report

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>>53919113
It's only "abuse" if you compare to the 3 years of shilling before that. This is just the treatment most normal pokemon see from the start, be happy for what you did get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 19:08:27 No.53919316 Report

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>cant build a team
>cant play the long game for the win
>derr click ceaseless edge

literally the only reason. samurott is uu tier

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 19:09:55 No.53919323 Report

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>>53919080
>>53919111
>Its gonna drop!
Until the DLC introduces a Dark type that does its niche with better stat distro, its here to stay

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 20:40:20 No.53919756 Report

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>>53919076
>dude what if samurott was covered in red and black lmao
regional variants were a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 20:45:59 No.53919799 Report

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samurott is like the best mon in the tier rn are you people high

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 21:01:04 No.53919881 Report

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>>53919076
>>53919113
Delayed punishment for the years of Frogshilling a retarded tongue scarf mon

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 21:01:37 No.53919882 Report

Quoted By: >>53919921 >>53921284

>>53919076
>Seething over Shadow the Edgeotter when they do different things
You have no right to complain when Blazikenfags in Gen 4 had it wayyy worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 21:02:55 No.53919895 Report

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>>53919076
soul vs soulless. Fuck XY Starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 21:05:36 No.53919907 Report

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>>53919076
soulless vs soul. fuck muttnova starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 21:07:32 No.53919919 Report

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>>53919095
>Therian Landorus
>Mega Rayquaza
>Dusk Mane Necrozma
>Crowned Zacian
>Miraidon
I know your point was on average Pokemon outshining older Legendaries through sheer base stats with time (though that might not be the case), but thinking about how power creep applies to actual Legendary Pokemon is just as scary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 21:08:17 No.53919921 Report

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>>53919882
>"WAAAAAAH, INFERNAPE IS TOO FAST AND LEARNS CLOSE COMBAT. MAKE ME BROKEN RIGHT NOW GAME FREAK!"
Kill yourself. Also CHARIZARD is better in Gen 3 now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 21:10:34 No.53919929 Report

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Greninja abilities got nerfed hard and Meowscarada and Cinderace are better users of current Protean/Libero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 21:14:06 No.53919946 Report

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>>53919080
It’s literally one of the best Pokémon in the tier, no way it’s gonna drop. Obviously the meta is in flux but it’s going to be hard to ever ignore free spikes which can’t be prevented with taunt or bounce on top of decent to great dmg
Dark water is also a sick stab combination

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 22:38:24 No.53920284 Report

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>>53919076
i mean, they nerfed protean and i think they also nerfed battle bond (im not 100% sure so feel free to prove me wrong)

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 22:39:39 No.53920293 Report

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>>53919113
>>53919127
Holy based

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 23:04:31 No.53920411 Report

Quoted By: >>53920463 >>53920596 >>53926561

>Typing and signature is so good your not even recommended to run coverage
Its staying in OU, cope haters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 23:11:53 No.53920463 Report

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>>53920411
>two 65 BP dark moves with an amazing effect and has its power boosted by 50% under a certain condition
>you can unironically run both on the same set
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 23:18:28 No.53920496 Report

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>>53920463
Dark type moves are such bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 23:36:38 No.53920596 Report

Quoted By: >>53920698 >>53920757 >>53920824

>>53920411

Just look at your pic anon and it shows the problem with most of the hisui Mons except the bear and the Grinch, their asignature moves they have are so good that they literally carry shitmons like samurott

When other pokemon get ceaseless edge, triple arrows or infenal parade they're going straight to PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jun 2023 23:58:08 No.53920698 Report

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>>53920596
>their asignature moves they have are so good that they literally carry shitmons like samurott
First of all, movepools are part of the Pokemon just as much as stats, typing and ability.
second, Infernal parade fuckimg sucks to the point where 99% of Hyphlosion just spam Eruption like the Johtonian form did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 00:14:43 No.53920757 Report

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>>53920596
Typhlosion is carried by Eruption. Infernal Parade is inconsistent on a frail offensive mon with no ability that would benefit the move(Serene Grace, Technician, etc). Its just a shitter Blacephalon with Fighting coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 00:27:17 No.53920813 Report

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>>53920284
Battle Bond is stat boosts now, no Ash-frog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 00:28:39 No.53920824 Report

Quoted By: >>53920871

>>53920596
typhlosion and decidueye are going to pu even with those moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 00:39:02 No.53920871 Report

Quoted By: >>53923130

>>53920824
>The starters from Johto and Alola, (former forever forced to live in KANTOOOO's shadow, and the latter being KANTOOOO's vacation spot).
stuck being PU trash
>Starter from Unova (a region that went out of its way to distance itself form KANTOOO)
gets to be one of the best pokemon in OU.
makes ya think

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 00:45:34 No.53920886 Report

Quoted By: >>53920961 >>53921292

It's still funny how much people were underestimating Ceaseless Edge

You fucking slap a Scarf on the fucker and you hit the Ceaseless Edge button and you either
>Do enough damage to 1-2 hit KO while setting up Spikes
>Do Chip damage while setting up Spikes
>Miss [Kill yourself]

This is what happens when you take Ferrothorn out of your Meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 00:57:35 No.53920961 Report

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>>53920886
I never took its speed tier or Sharpness into account.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 01:21:05 No.53921073 Report

Quoted By: >>53921102

>Carried by good ability + good move that benefits from ability
Rillaboom 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 01:27:39 No.53921102 Report

Quoted By: >>53921141

>>53921073
I wouldn't go that far. Sure, he'd be a worse water/dark than Greninja, but he still has that great offensive typing and a wide movepool. Rillabloom is a generic bulky grass with a field ability.

I wanna see another pokemon game with no abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 01:36:56 No.53921141 Report

Quoted By: >>53921204

>>53921102
Samurott's offensive profile is lacking due to being so mixed. It's carried hard by its ability just like Gren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 01:49:58 No.53921204 Report

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>>53921141
Even without sharpness, it still has STAB sucker punch and hydro pump. Its offenses are fine. Its only let down by its speed and bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 01:52:32 No.53921210 Report

Quoted By: >>53922116

>>53920496
It's what happens when your type's gimmick is that you always have a secondary effect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 01:56:23 No.53921222 Report

Quoted By: >>53921493

>>53920496
>Steel nerf ruins the game
And water is wet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 02:10:29 No.53921284 Report

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>>53919882
>shilled in gen 3
>sure it was powercrept in gen 4 but it got Flare Blitz
>fucking Speed Boost
>got a Mega before the other 2 Hoenn starters did
>has good coverage moves
Blazikenfags NEVER have the right to complain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 02:12:03 No.53921292 Report

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>>53920886
ferro meta is the worst meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 02:23:59 No.53921317 Report

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a bit off topic but is kleavor better than Samurott in vgc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 02:38:21 No.53921366 Report

Quoted By: >>53921418

>>53919076
Metafags, what happened to greninja? Back in my day he got banned to ubers but I haven't kept up since oras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 02:48:33 No.53921418 Report

Quoted By: >>53922121

>>53921366
-Protean no longer changes type more than once, killing the frog's versatility.
-Meowscarada, the newest Grass starter, was designed to make use of nerfed Protean unlike Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 03:03:56 No.53921484 Report

Quoted By: >>53921538 >>53921607 >>53921624 >>53921807

>can't hurt anything
>can't outrun anything frail
>can't tank RESISTED hits
Samurott will end up in UU(BL) once the dust settles. In spite of the amazing movepool/type/ability it's stats are that bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 03:05:28 No.53921493 Report

Quoted By: >>53921570 >>53924976 >>53925920

>>53921222
>Steel should have 11 resistances and counter the other best type in the game
Pull your head out of your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 03:15:11 No.53921538 Report

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>>53921484
>>can't hurt anything
1.5 boost on your best moves is one hell of a Drug its basically MEGA CHARIZARD Xs Tough Claws on crack
>>can't outrun anything frail
Aqua Jet and Sucker Punch
>>can't tank RESISTED hits
Not many offensive Pokémon can, OU is so full of minmaxed shillmons that nearly every move from anything is a 2HKO unless the one taking a hit
I'm not even necessarily disagreeing with your placement on H. Samurrot because new toy syndrome at play here, but I think you're selling it short considering how good it's doing even with broken legendaries roaming around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 03:20:14 No.53921570 Report

Quoted By: >>53921788 >>53921799 >>53922110

>>53921493
Steel kept the meta in check and would have prevented the unga bunga dark/ghost spam meta we have today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 03:28:19 No.53921607 Report

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>>53921484
>it's

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 03:31:53 No.53921624 Report

Quoted By: >>53921687

>>53921484
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 03:43:55 No.53921687 Report

Quoted By: >>53921790

>>53921624
>>>/v/639751490
I had a few tabs open and I just want you faggots to know that both of you said this buzzword at the same time that I refreshed each tab

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 04:14:23 No.53921788 Report

Quoted By: >>53921859

>>53921570
no it wouldn’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 04:16:22 No.53921790 Report

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>>53921687
>that /v/
>retards are so stuck up their own asses that they down legit think that's what a centrist is
holy fuck was 4chan always this retarded is is this an election tourist thing/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 04:20:23 No.53921799 Report

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>>53921570
There’s hardly a dark or ghost “spam” in the meta, especially when compared to dragon spam in gens 4/5. Classic smoggies, unable to comprehend things being different from 2010, crying “broken! unbalanced!” because they can’t turn their brains off and use the exact same strategy they could 10 years ago.

Is it autism? Most likely. Incurable? Most definitely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 04:23:41 No.53921807 Report

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>>53921484
>>can't hurt anything
It can easily OHKO all the top mons. Hydro Pump for Great Tusk, Ceaseless Edge for Gholdango, Sacred Sword for Kingambit, etc.
>>can't outrun anything frail
That's pretty fair. Its speed is pretty middling for what it does, but at least its not as slow as Ursaluna.
>>can't tank RESISTED hits
With Assault Vest, it can tank 2 Specs Make it Rains in a row without investment. And that's on the frailer side. You can also tank a +2 Max SO King Gambit's Kowtow Cleave and live 75% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 04:31:45 No.53921833 Report

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>>53919076
GET KEKED FRENCH FROG

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 04:41:58 No.53921859 Report

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>>53921788
Only because of tera. Without it, most ghosts are easily checked by Heatran.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 04:51:27 No.53921880 Report

Quoted By: >>53921905 >>53922217

>252 Atk Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Ceaseless Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 290-344 (92 - 109.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
>252 Atk Roaring Moon Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 288-342 (91.4 - 108.5%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

With slicing moves it has the equivalent of 141 Attack. Whats with autists saying its unable to kill shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 05:04:03 No.53921905 Report

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>>53921880
They’re either ignorant because they don’t play the game, shitposting aka PChal, or so mindbroken about a Unovan starter is this good (people have always had a chip on their shoulder at Unova refusing to be slaves for KANTOOOOOO)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 05:51:44 No.53922055 Report

Quoted By: >>53922525

>>53919076
Funny thing that Cincerace survived with a nerfed librero while Greninja is now pathetic with nerfed protean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 06:01:34 No.53922079 Report

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>>53919080
I have been seeing Hisuian-Samurott at 1600+ ELO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 06:12:00 No.53922110 Report

Quoted By: >>53923676

>>53921570
Having played BDSP metagames this is true, The Steel resistances nerf allowed many mons to go unchecked and become much bigger, centralizing problems than they otherwise would have been.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 06:14:19 No.53922116 Report

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>>53921210
Dark’s type gimmick is that it has to be cheap in exchange for weak coverage.
Dark is literally the type for being unfair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 06:15:46 No.53922121 Report

Quoted By: >>53922139

>>53921418
What about Battle Bond? It used to be as good as Protean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 06:22:03 No.53922139 Report

Quoted By: >>53922156 >>53922493

>>53922121
Battle Bond wasn’t available until Home, but it honestly has potential still. Got nerfed far less than Protean. You’re actually stronger and faster too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 06:28:39 No.53922156 Report

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>>53922139
It’s a worse Moxie as you can’t get the boost again when you switch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 06:39:35 No.53922191 Report

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They should have at least kept Water Shurikens buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 06:47:20 No.53922217 Report

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>>53921880
If you want to go the route of saying it has 141 attack, you have to concede that its moves are weak. The best being a STAB 75 attack. Also being not fast and not bulky gives it problems getting the hits in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 08:02:34 No.53922416 Report

Quoted By: >>53922503

Unovachads: 1
Kalossissies: 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 08:35:41 No.53922493 Report

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>>53922139
Battle bond used to be insane because you changed forms, which means you keep your stat changes when you switch out. Also water shuriken was boosted to 20 base power and Ass Greninja had guaranteed 3 hits, so you had base 60 power special water priority off of 153 base sp atk, almost as strong as jet punch. With specs, you'll be shitting out damage. In SV, you no longer get the boosts to water shuriken's base power or the guaranteed hits, so you have to get 4 hits to equal Ass Greninja's water shuriken, which means you either have to rely on luck or you have to waste your item slot on loaded dice. Also as previously mentioned, even if the battle bond boosts make Greninja effectively stronger than Ass Greninja, you'll still lose them when you switch and never get them back again since they only work once per battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 08:38:34 No.53922503 Report

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>>53922416
>all kalos starters are in sv
>only reason samucrap didn’t get dexcut is because of that shitty arceus spinoff
kaloschads 3
borty (1)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 08:50:21 No.53922525 Report

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>>53922055
>Single type so doesn't activate libero with fire moves
>Has the most spammable fire move in existance
Cinderace was made to be bonken with Libero

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 14:02:49 No.53923130 Report

Quoted By: >>53923239

>>53920871
>Unova (a region that went out of its way to distance itself form KANTOO-AAAAAaaaAAAAaaaaAAACK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 14:15:51 No.53923171 Report

Quoted By: >>53923244

>it’s too weak
Nigger nobody wants to switch into a stab knockoff and even those that resist dark don’t enjoy the chip from stab sharpness ceaseless
Do you niggers even play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 14:39:40 No.53923239 Report

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>>53923130
funny how column 1 is entirely correct but the rest of the image is complete nonsense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 14:42:07 No.53923244 Report

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>>53923171
No they don't because they don't understand just how fucking Punishing the chip from Ceaseless Edge is while they also now have another Hazard to do deal with that can't be blocked so anything not running boots will be taking more damage on every switch

Chip + Forcing your opponent to have to plan around Hazard removal now is so busted because of how much you can kite your opponent with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 15:50:54 No.53923445 Report

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>>53919262
The Reddit Frog was legitimately popular though with the average amount of shilling starters get. Infernape was shilled to hell and back and he's mostly forgotten

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 15:53:00 No.53923452 Report

Quoted By: >>53923658

>>53919113
People kept saying how broken it is, so it got the Gengar treatment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 15:54:44 No.53923460 Report

Quoted By: >>53923464

>252 Atk Choice Band Sharpness Samurott-Hisui Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 220-260 (56.7 - 67%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Define "power" denialfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 15:55:20 No.53923464 Report

Quoted By: >>53923514

>>53923460
>banded
It's not getting that second hit off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 16:10:23 No.53923514 Report

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>>53923464
Zama still can't switch in + Life Orb gets the same results with rocks since it can't run boots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 16:49:15 No.53923658 Report

Quoted By: >>53923703

>>53923452
Gengar wasn't nerfed for balance reasons. He was nerfed because he didn't float at the time.

Now he does, so the change makes absolutely no goddamn sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 16:54:00 No.53923676 Report

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>>53922110
You fags wanna know something crazy? It was Gengar that was banned to ubers, not Garchomp. Nothing could take an UNBOOSTED shadow ball anymore. Nasty plot was GG territory if it resolved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 17:03:02 No.53923703 Report

Quoted By: >>53923783

>>53923658
What a brain dead post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 17:34:47 No.53923783 Report

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>>53923703
Game Freak's autism regarding Gengar began in XY where he couldn't be used in sky battles. The change was made because they were too lazy to make a new model for him in gen 7. The reverse happened to Eelektross in XY where his entire visual gimmick was removed so that he COULD compete in sky battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 18:11:21 No.53923933 Report

Quoted By: >>53924025

>>53919127
>all of it because charizardfags felt threatened by it
More like the Kalos League loss resulted in death threats and attacks on GF itself, creating the single most negative publicity for the brand until dexit. It also lead to firings at the studio and a creative team shuffle giving us Pokemon Journeys.
Pokemon isn't all about marketing, it's about favoritism. Charizard is supposedly Masuda's favorite Pokemon so it gets favoritism. Greninja due to the shitstorm is the black sheep of the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 18:34:11 No.53924025 Report

Quoted By: >>53924747

>>53923933
>dexit
>negative publicity
swsh is the second best selling pokemon game after rb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 21:08:32 No.53924747 Report

Quoted By: >>53924799 >>53924908

>>53924025
Compared to how other mainline pokemon games did relative to other nintendo titles at their respective times, swsh absolutely bombed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 21:23:15 No.53924799 Report

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>>53924747
cope

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 21:50:18 No.53924908 Report

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>>53924747
>muh growth
I'm not happy with the state the games are in either but this cope is just pathetic and Werster is an absolute retard for parroting it. Newsflash moron, Pokemon doesn't need explosive growth when
>1. It pumps out games more consistently than any other major franchise affiliated with Nintendo
and
>2. Make most of it's money through merchandising and TCG profits
Yeah I'm sure TPC investors are fucking BAWLING that TOTK matched the launch sales of SV, a game that came out within the same year timespan as two other 10+ million selling Pokemon games coming off of literal record profits for the company. Get real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 21:52:37 No.53924919 Report

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>>53919113
Greninja was nerfed in Smash 4, in Ult hes a comfy high tier, though hampered by his lack of OOS options, he's still very very good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jun 2023 22:04:47 No.53924976 Report

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>>53921493
Losing Ghost was fine, but losing Dark has always been foolish.
It's like Steel was creeping too much closer to Fairy so they had to nerf it a bit.
But things like Lucario no longer having a 4x resist really shows off how devastating that removal of Dark resist really was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 01:34:09 No.53925920 Report

Quoted By: >>53926013

>>53921493
>weak to two common types
>weak to the most popular type in casual play
Steel was fine and answers to them were plentiful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 01:51:53 No.53926013 Report

Quoted By: >>53926096 >>53926368

>>53925920
>resisting 13/18 types and a status effect, with a solid offensive profile is fine
>dark is too much
I agree that dark wasn't a type that should have had its resistance removed, but steel is too strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 02:10:20 No.53926096 Report

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>>53926013
>a solid offensive profile
Steels offensive profile was mid at least, Before Gen 6 it was resisted by twice as many types that were were weak to it. One of the types that resisted it was Water (the most common type in the game).
Even ignoring pretty much every steel move above 80 BP that isn't signature has lower accuracy or some other drawback.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 03:15:37 No.53926368 Report

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>>53926013
But it was dogshit offensively. Even with fairy around, having to run a steel coverage move sucks because it hits nothing else. At least poison moves can poison stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 03:58:43 No.53926561 Report

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>>53920411
Does it get close combat or sacred sword?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 04:15:28 No.53926614 Report

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>>53926561
Sacred sword, which gets the sharpness boost

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 04:36:56 No.53926700 Report

Quoted By: >>53928904

>>53926561
>>53926614
Sacred Sword(move with zero drawbacks + amazing secondary effect) with Sharpness boost even outdamages Close Combat, that ability is cracked

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 08:57:38 No.53927265 Report

Quoted By: >>53928856

>>53919076
samurai >>>>> ninja, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 18:07:07 No.53928856 Report

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>>53927265
cope

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 18:15:00 No.53928904 Report

Quoted By: >>53928944

>>53926700
>>53926614
>those fags dont know
>>53926561
it only learn sacred sword in usum. if you transfer it to plass to evolve into h saammurott, it will forget this move. theres no legal way to get a sacred sword h-sammurott in sv yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jun 2023 18:25:11 No.53928944 Report

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>>53928904
Sacred sword is an egg move, and it can learn it from anything that has the move if it has Mirror herb

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