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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 19:57:21 No.53993627 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>53993858 >>53993864 >>53994355 >>53994410 >>53995770

This was worse than Flint's team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 20:06:17 No.53993645 Report

Quoted By: >>53993852 >>53994097 >>53994137

At the end of the day I'll take an E4 member using Pokemon from their region, even if there are dupes, over the embarrassment that was the Sinnoh E4.
>Aaron sent out Beautifly!
Fucking honestly.

Though I do agree with the sentiment that there shouldn't be an E4 member specailizing in a type if the region is strapped for Pokemon of that type, GF needs to get over their phobia of early game ice Pokemon, Glacia could work as a mid level gym leader and Winona could sub as an E4 member due to the glut of flying Pokemon in Hoenn. Alternately she could have run a hail team with Castform, either option still mogs the fuck out of Flint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 20:08:25 No.53993653 Report

Quoted By: >>53993697

The Hoenn Elite Four was pathetic apart from Drake. Sidney was acceptable.

Honestly, GSC had a pretty decent Elite Four lineup all things considered. It took until fucking Gen 7 until we got another good one. Fuck Gen 5/6 and its stupid "hurr durr elite four members can only have 4 pokeymanz" shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 20:22:31 No.53993697 Report

Quoted By: >>53994420 >>53995795

>>53993653
>Sidney was acceptable
Sidney uses
>a route 1 shitmon
>slow frail mixed attacker
>slow frail mixed attacker
>sharpedo is at least passable but crawdaunt can't use its STABs
>his ace is a pokemon with one good stat that also doesn't match its STAB
He'd be arguably the worst E4 member of all time if RB Bruno didn't exist

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 21:05:56 No.53993852 Report

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>>53993645
>using Pokémon from their region
Made up autism that GF shouldn't adhere to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 21:07:02 No.53993858 Report

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>>53993627
Looks based to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 21:08:37 No.53993864 Report

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>>53993627
>using 5 pokemons instead of 4 like in gen 5
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 22:08:44 No.53994097 Report

Quoted By: >>53994121

>>53993645
Would you seriously have preferred for Flint to have 1 Infernape, 2 Monfernos and 2 Rapidash?
At least like this you can get variety instead of sweeping through a boss fight with one pokemon because they're monotype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 22:13:54 No.53994121 Report

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>>53994097
No, dumbass,I'm saying if they lacked the fire pokemon, they shouldn't have had a fire e4 member in the first place. or better yet go back in time and make dp an actually good game has the cross gen evos actually be in the regional dex. volkner and flint literally only exist to shill electivire and magmortar respectively yet they don't actually get to use them till platinum or bdsp rematches.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 22:19:56 No.53994136 Report

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They should have had a grass member. Breloom, Tropius, Ludicolo, Shiftry , Cradily. All with a unique secondary type. Let the dark trainer keep cacturne and roselia is still available. Put Steven Stone as Champion in all three games so ludicolo doesn't repeat.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 22:19:57 No.53994137 Report

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>>53993645
>At the end of the day I'll take an E4 member using Pokemon from their region, even if there are dupes
What's your favorite E4 then? Only one of them practice autarky without any dupes in their teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 23:20:22 No.53994301 Report

Quoted By: >>53994335 >>53994385 >>53994403 >>53994448 >>53994498

>>53994137
Definitely not Shitnova where they started the trend of giving the strongest people in the region barely more than half a team

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 23:28:11 No.53994335 Report

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>>53994301
>you say that about the gen that has 2 of the 3 strongest champions ever

yeah cynthia is still stronger (especially after bdsp)but those two are very close in power before bdsp to the point they could beat her

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 23:32:58 No.53994355 Report

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>>53993627
Agreed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 23:39:48 No.53994385 Report

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>>53994301
Even with half a team they make kantranny/johtranny's E4 look like frauds. You will now proceed to slash your wrists over this revelation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 23:43:56 No.53994403 Report

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>>53994301
>>53994385
Let's not even get into their rematch or BW2 teams. They could probably holocaust the entire Tohjoverse with those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 23:44:38 No.53994410 Report

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>>53993627
Hoenns elite four felt like a rhythm game.
"Okay, two dusclops, two banette, one sableye"
"Okay, two glalie, two Sealeo, one walrein"
"Okay, two flygon, kinda two salamence, one altaria"
In hindsight it really gave the middle 3 more memorability. I just had to Google Steven and Sydney's teams to hard confirm the members, but these 3 I knew by heart.
Not an advocate for it, because the elite four is probably the weakest part of Hoenn overall, but I can feel it A LITTLE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 23:46:31 No.53994420 Report

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>>53993697
>Entire team is swept by a Fury Cutter Ninjask everytime I run it
It would be funny if it weren't a little sad. Not one, but TWO grass-dark types, and the rest of them can't tank the hits at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Jun 2023 23:58:47 No.53994448 Report

Quoted By: >>53994498

>>53994301
Quality over quantity. It's better an E4 having 4 different Pokémon in their teams than a champion with three (3) Dragonites in his team of 5/6 kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 00:13:19 No.53994498 Report

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>>53994301
>>53994448
not to mention unova's elite four have competent movesets and ai

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 00:19:03 No.53994509 Report

Quoted By: >>53994521 >>53994527 >>53995797

Monotype Gym Leaders and Elite Four have been a longtime staple of the mainline series. At this point in time, however, it would be awesome if E4 members were built around specific mechanics over types. Maybe both, if possible.
>Battle Types: Double, Triple, Rotation, Inverse
>Weather: Sun, Rain, Sandstorm, Snow/Hail
>Terrains: Grassy, Electric, Psychic, Misty
>Rooms: Trick, Wonder, Magic
>Entry Hazards: Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock, Sticky Web
>various volatile status conditions such as Confusion and Infatuation
I know this is a romhack-tier idea, but I still think it would be fun to see executed in the official mainline series through various Boss Trainers. RSE/ORAS Tate & Liza and SwSh Raihan are some of the only Boss Trainers I can recall with battles that deviated from the typical Single Battle format. In Raihan's case, he also stepped away from being a monotype Gym Leader.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 00:22:50 No.53994521 Report

Quoted By: >>53994525 >>53994530

>>53994509
>RSE/ORAS Tate & Liza and SwSh Raihan are some of the only Boss Trainers I can recall with battles that deviated from the typical Single Battle format.
SV's Ryme and her gym was the only place you could do double battles in Paldea outside of multiplayer.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 00:24:28 No.53994525 Report

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>>53994521
Holy shit I forgot about SV Ryme's battle. Whoops, her too. Thanks.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 00:24:33 No.53994527 Report

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>>53994509
>I know this is a romhack-tier idea
It's really not, the only reason GF won't do it is because its far easier to just throw in some electric type pokemon and call it a day. It's so odd tbat the gap between a playthrough and comp is so thin now, but the game basically does nothing to prepare players for common strategies or team synergy for both singles and doubles.
It's like gf is well aware of the myraid of guides out there and just expects people to look everything up, skipping the part where they teach people anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 00:24:56 No.53994530 Report

Quoted By: >>53994809

>>53994521
And that’s a good thing. Fuck doublefags

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 00:29:22 No.53994540 Report

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>>53994121
this is a shit take, the hacked mons they have show that theyve been collecting mons, even though it takes the main character a day to beat the e4 these guys have been training these pokemon their whole lives, probably got some from trades, maybe passed down mons from grandparents who moved from a different region, and they travel outside of their regions too, as we saw cynthia and shit in gen5

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Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 01:50:47 No.53994809 Report

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>>53994530
Shut up, Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 06:25:55 No.53995770 Report

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>>53993627
Yes, this is way worse than Flint's team.
Flint's team was great and based as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 06:35:56 No.53995795 Report

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>>53993697
Am I missing something? Why can't Crawdaunt use it's STABs? It has a good sp.atk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Jun 2023 06:37:45 No.53995797 Report

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>>53994509
Why not both?
You can make somewhat decent mono-type boss leaning harder into some strategy and you don't even need to get into alt-ruleset bs like triples, rotations and lol inverse.

Ludicolo, Weather Ball Roserade, Any generic Grass-type goodmon - You get good skeleton for Rain-focused Grass team, as opposed to Sun/Powder spam number 19288402. Add to it Castform if you feel adventurous and Maybe second Ludicolo (or obligatory next-gen new mon tailored for this team) and you have E4 member.

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