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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:02:01 No.54004089 View View Reply Original Report

He's back and this time he's tackling Johto's BIG Problem...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygavMjo50J4

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:02:38 No.54004094 Report

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>>54004089
Johtosisters aren’t going to like this one…

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:06:40 No.54004108 Report

Quoted By: >>54004144 >>54004161

>>54004089
Big problem with both gens 1 and 2, and lots of cases in gen 3. The actual issue is gen 2s shit TMs except for a few like the punches and sludge bomb. Gen 1 hands out powerful TMs like candy, and does so early. The gym leader reward TMs in gen 2 are a slap in the face

>mudslap
>fury cutter
>attract

gee thanks.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:14:57 No.54004140 Report

Quoted By: >>54004166 >>54005546 >>54006753 >>54009865

every time a youtube video gets posted here I dislike it without watching

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:16:01 No.54004144 Report

Quoted By: >>54004164

>>54004108
You get to buy all three elemental punches infinitely with only two badges, GSC has the best TMs out of all the gens with breakable TMs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:16:13 No.54004145 Report

Quoted By: >>54004170

>>54004089
im gonna find out this guys favourite gen and start making the same videos directed towards it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:19:58 No.54004161 Report

Quoted By: >>54006045

>>54004108
This is really the issue, and I wouldn't say it's a big problem with Gen 1 for the reasons you outlined. Outside of a few special cases, most Pokemon in Gens 1 and 2 had lackluster level-up movepools, to the point where I'm pretty sure it was just a deliberate design choice. Honestly, it was carried over into Gen 3, although I'd argue that GF struck a better balance in the GBA games.

Gen 2 saddles you with shit like Defense Curl, Thief, and Fury Cutter, with your best TMs for much of Johto being some mid-tier attacking moves. I mean, beating the seventh Gym Leader gets you Icy Wind, which you could maybe argue is a little better than the TM you get from Misty in Gen 1. And even then, the very next Gym Leader gives you fucking Thunderbolt.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:20:38 No.54004164 Report

Quoted By: >>54004333

>>54004144
Great for the special attackers that can learn them. In Gen 1 I can have bubblebeam, body slam, rock slide, ice beam, thunderbolt after 3 badges. Punches are great but imo these are a better spread that applies to a higher variety of mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:21:28 No.54004166 Report

Quoted By: >>54005546

>>54004140
all interaction is good interaction in the algorithm.
best thing you can do to harm a video is watch two seconds then close out of youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:22:14 No.54004168 Report

Quoted By: >>54005138 >>54008058

>Tears apart gen 2 with facts and common sense
>People seethe
Why can't gen 2 shitters take objective criticism?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:22:23 No.54004170 Report

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>>54004145
show him who the boss is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:47:00 No.54004262 Report

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Gen 2 is best gen, for Pokémania to be as huge as it was and for the sequel to actually deliver a game that met and exceeded expectations is remarkable.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 01:47:30 No.54004263 Report

Quoted By: >>54004324 >>54005567

Johto lost to SV

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 02:03:49 No.54004324 Report

Quoted By: >>54005567 >>54007074

>>54004263
it did better than KANTOOOOOO though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 02:07:36 No.54004333 Report

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>>54004164
Friendly reminder gen 1 dig is 100bp and a better transport move than fly and serves as an escape rope inside dungeons and towers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 02:09:18 No.54004338 Report

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>>54004089
You just know he keeps making these because /vp/ keeps posting about them.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 02:54:19 No.54004483 Report

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>>54004089
>The Shitty Poop Anti-Gen 2 thread

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 02:56:03 No.54004493 Report

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POKETUBERS DESERVE TO BE SHOT IN THE ASS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 07:39:25 No.54005138 Report

Quoted By: >>54005522

>>54004168
Because their blind love for their game is not based in any reason. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 08:13:34 No.54005216 Report

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>>54004089
kill yourself op

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:30:02 No.54005522 Report

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>>54005138
reddit post

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:34:58 No.54005530 Report

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another youtuber with the faggiest voice imaginable
lol, listened 1 second and disliked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:35:05 No.54005531 Report

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>>54004089
why do youtubers now put subtitles in the first 5 seconds of their videos and then immediately after that the rest of the video has fucking NONE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:37:34 No.54005535 Report

Quoted By: >>54005538

>>54004089
AIIIIIIIIEEEEEE A LEVEL 20 ZUBAT WHERE'S MY STAB MOVES IT'S OVER

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:38:40 No.54005538 Report

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>>54005535

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:41:18 No.54005541 Report

Quoted By: >>54006764

>>54004089
>i'm gonna shill my romhack by spreading lies about johto
kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:44:33 No.54005546 Report

Quoted By: >>54005627

>>54004140
Same.

>>54004166
If you dislike the video before watching 2 secs it only harms the video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:55:20 No.54005567 Report

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>>54004263
>>54004324
Now post HGSS vs SV.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 11:04:23 No.54005586 Report

Quoted By: >>54005613 >>54005615

Only posting ITT to remind you, if you don't want to see these stupid e-celeb threads, don't fucking post in them. Let them go to page 10 and die. Just don't do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 11:05:40 No.54005590 Report

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Who gives a fuck people like HGSS not shit like GSC

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 11:07:12 No.54005593 Report

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>>54004089
Good, now i hope he does the same with Gen 1/Kanto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 11:18:50 No.54005613 Report

Quoted By: >>54005662

>>54005586
i can still post in these shit threads while also saging

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 11:19:51 No.54005615 Report

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>>54005586
But I want this thread. Just hide them retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 11:25:41 No.54005627 Report

Quoted By: >>54005763

>>54005546
all interaction is a plus, even dislikes. they dont care if youre mad or offended or disgusted as long as youre engaging. do not click the dislike button, just watch 2 seconds and leave the site entirely.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 11:44:14 No.54005662 Report

Quoted By: >>54008517 >>54009680

>>54005613
Sage no longer works since 2018, oldfag

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:13:39 No.54005727 Report

Quoted By: >>54006564

>>54004089
Is this how it's going to be until the end of time, now? We're going to make an observation of how something about the older games' design is different from how the series currently does it (move learnsets, in this case) and pretend it's a "problem" rather than simply an interesting difference?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:24:49 No.54005752 Report

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>thinks golduck is water/psychic
>his videos still get posted

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:28:34 No.54005763 Report

Quoted By: >>54005765 >>54005819

>>54005627
It's totally a engagement, bro. Just watch it and don't bother disliking it. Not like Youtube obfuscating dislikes because advertisers were complaining their products are being negatively impacted just by association with shitty videos is a thing. Just watch without disliking bro.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:29:10 No.54005765 Report

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>>54005763
Not only will I not watch, I will dislike it and go into the video's page with adblock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:42:52 No.54005794 Report

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>>54004089
This kind of threads should warrant a ban. This retard is farming views

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:52:43 No.54005819 Report

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>>54005763
it counts the same as a like for algorithmic, recommendation purposes
you're a dense faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 14:19:20 No.54006045 Report

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>>54004161
It feels like they wanted to balance out the campaign so it wouldn't be an absolute steamroll like it often was in gen 1, but overcorrected it so much that we were left with too little to play around with. Letting the player have access to powerful stuff, no strings attached, is actually a very fun experience in RPGs, and based on how they designed gen 2, I think this was only done accidentally in gen 1.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:12:41 No.54006492 Report

Quoted By: >>54006496

I don’t get it.
you can get loads of great TMs by grinding Voltorb Flip.
thunderbolt ice beam flamethrower, the works

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:13:35 No.54006496 Report

Quoted By: >>54006548

>>54006492
>voltorb flip in gen 2
>relying on gambling

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:28:34 No.54006548 Report

Quoted By: >>54006558

>>54006496
voltorb flip isn't gambling
it's arguably a shitty minigame but if you can't turn a profit easily it's cause you're sub 80 iq

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:30:11 No.54006558 Report

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>>54006548
it is gambling and even if you play with 100% logic you will not get much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:31:47 No.54006564 Report

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>>54005727
only about gen 2, and maybe about gen 4 in a few years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:32:16 No.54006568 Report

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>>54004089

Niggerfaggot tries to divert the unified gen 1, 2 base.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:35:12 No.54006574 Report

Quoted By: >>54006869

>It’s another “pokemon game is bad because it’s not designed like my braindead unova games” episode

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:35:42 No.54006577 Report

Quoted By: >>54006762 >>54007478 >>54007569

>>54004089
I wonder how many videos he'll have by the end of the year

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:37:47 No.54006583 Report

Quoted By: >>54006627

>>54004089
>thinks you should be level 38 at the 7th gym

this guy's a hack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 16:57:58 No.54006627 Report

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>>54006583
You should be around level 30-32 for the 7th Gym lmao. Retards like this need to kill themselves. If they played anything other than Pokémon I bet they'd complain that the bosses are unfairly balanced because they have more health or their attacks do more damage than them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:15:33 No.54006698 Report

Quoted By: >>54006764

This fag is just shilling his own rom hack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:27:38 No.54006753 Report

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>>54004140
Flag them for terrorism instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:29:00 No.54006762 Report

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>>54006577
post this every time one of these threads show up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:29:20 No.54006764 Report

Quoted By: >>54006852

>>54005541
>>54006698
Is it out yet? It better be good or I'm going to make weekly videos on why every aspect of it is shit.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:31:15 No.54006775 Report

Quoted By: >>54006780 >>54006869 >>54007079

>MY POKEMON DON’T LEARN 120BP STABS IN THE LV30S LIKE MY UNOVA? GAME BAD
>THE POKEMON ACTUALLY REQUIRE EFFORT TO FIND INSTEAD OF BEING LAZILY THROWN IN MY FACE LIKE MY UNOVA? GAME BAD
>I MIGHT HAVE TO ACTUALLY FIGHT THINGS WITH A HIGHER LEVEL THAN ME INSTEAD OF CONVENIENTLY BEING THE SAME LEVEL OR HIGHER THAN EVERYTHING IN THE GAME, RENDERING LEVELS POINTLESS AND TRIVIALIZING ALL DIFFICULTY LIKE MY UNOVA? GAME BAD

I’m so sick of post-2019 bw2 cocksucking pokemon video essayists.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:32:40 No.54006780 Report

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>>54006775
No one ever that part of johto

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:46:42 No.54006852 Report

Quoted By: >>54006896 >>54007052

>>54006764
Even if it's "good", shit on it anyway.
>54006775
Actual Unovachads and Johtochads support each other. Keep crying about the fact that you never grew up in the Golden Age of Pokemon, spermy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:49:24 No.54006869 Report

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>>54006574
>>54006775
Rent free, as per usual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 17:55:15 No.54006896 Report

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>>54006852
Coattail riding on a good game won’t make your poorly designed nu-games better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 18:44:43 No.54007052 Report

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>>54006852
>Actual Unovachads and Johtochads support each other.
unovachad here, you guys keep saying this but I never see it.
Unova’s tightest bond is with Sinnoh, the twin pinnacles of Pokemon’s classic and modern design philosophies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 18:46:36 No.54007060 Report

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>>54004089
Patrick is it still true that moon is your least favorite zombies map?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 18:49:44 No.54007074 Report

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>>54004324
Wow eight thousand votes from some literal who’s youtube channel. This is crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 18:50:40 No.54007079 Report

Quoted By: >>54007082

>>54006775
Gen 2 is my favorite but movepools were shit. On my last run I used Gligar and Forretress, and the former isn't compatible with a single ground TM, for example dig. I had to breed an egg of it so it could at least have wing attack, without which it would have only had headbutt as its best option. Likewise, Forretress's best attack was headbutt, and I bred one with a Beedrill so it could at least have a measly pin missile for some kind of STAB. This is a far cry from 100+ BP STAB moves, just having a 60BP STAB move is elusive. Having my ground type being able to hit electric types super effectively would have been nice, but no. That was not an option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 18:52:13 No.54007082 Report

Quoted By: >>54010928

>>54007079
> Gen 2 is my favorite but movepools were shit
Relative to what? Nu-gen games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 18:53:12 No.54007083 Report

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>>54004089
Go fuck yourself with a pinecone OP
Besides, the perfect Pokémon Crystal hack already exists, it's Polished

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 18:54:56 No.54007092 Report

Quoted By: >>54007107

>>54004089
This guy has no understanding of RPGs or game design in general.
>always buff accuracy
>always buff damage
>never nerf
>every pokemon MUST have STAB in learnset

He also has a double standard of not accepting changes from later gens, then directly lifting movesets from later gens.
If he really loved GSC the way he claims to, he would have given at least a moment's consideration as to why it was designed very intentionally the way that it was.
Instead he has zoomer brainrot while trying to maintain a facade of impartiality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 18:59:50 No.54007107 Report

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>>54007092
addendum: he even directly references power creep in later gens, then adds the same issues to the game.
So he understands why its wrong, then adds it anyway.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:05:10 No.54007122 Report

Quoted By: >>54007191 >>54007782 >>54010284

>>54004089
you were supposed to build them as you saw fit with HMs and TMs, because they wouldn't be that good in nature. In other words, the trainer made the pokémon, and when left to their own devices these creatures weren't as strong, which ties into the lore of how pokémon like to be caught and be trained by humans.
of course nugens (gen 3+) wouldn't get this.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:09:56 No.54007141 Report

Quoted By: >>54007152 >>54007153 >>54007718 >>54010127

Another flawless Johtroon destruction thread, we need more YouTubers making videos like this until they are too embarrassed to even attempt to defend Johturd anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:14:09 No.54007152 Report

Quoted By: >>54007174

>>54007141
We already have HGSS that fixed most of those problems. I'm happy that you're taking your time to talk about our beloved Johto.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:14:29 No.54007153 Report

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>>54007141
empty-headed zoomerslop post, well done

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:18:23 No.54007174 Report

Quoted By: >>54007196 >>54007227

>>54007152
>We already have HGSS that fixed most of those problems.
HGSS didn't do shit to fix the biggest problems the games had, the awful level curve, the bad distribution (Safari Zone is an insultingly bad "solution" that makes you wait for fucking months to possibly grab a specific mon), the fact that Johturd leaders don't use Johturdmons, it goes on. Pokeboomers will even tell you that they got some stuff wrong and missing details, so it's not even a straight improvement. Johturd is just fucked, never had good games and never will.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:23:00 No.54007191 Report

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>>54007122
You could say this about gen 3 too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:24:08 No.54007196 Report

Quoted By: >>54007220

>>54007174
Your favorite region will never have another region in the postgame and Red battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:28:34 No.54007220 Report

Quoted By: >>54007294

>>54007196
I don't even want a secondary watered-down region and shitty final boss battle with a bad team tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:30:49 No.54007227 Report

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>>54007174
>awful level curve,
all pokmeon games are bad by this "logic" since the Pokemon series are designed so that little timmy can steam roll everything with a single CHARIZARD
>the bad distribution (Safari Zone is an insultingly bad "solution" that makes you wait for fucking months to possibly grab a specific mon),
Except several Pokémon can be obtained right away, including Larvitar and
that's not even counting the new Cliff Cave which gives you Misdreavus and wild Steelix
>the fact that Johturd leaders don't use Johturdmons, it goes on
play the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 19:53:03 No.54007294 Report

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>>54007220
Yes, yes, I know. Your mind in programmed to say everything related to Johto = bad. Talk more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 20:34:48 No.54007478 Report

Quoted By: >>54009510

>>54006577
>Johto's Big Problem
>The Johto Problem
>The Johto Problem
>The Problem with Johto
>is Bad
>It's Bad
Did this guy get his writing style for titles from 4Kids' Pokémon Johto where every episode title was a caper or a pun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 20:55:52 No.54007569 Report

Quoted By: >>54007587

>>54006577
What is his problem? Why does the man keep hating Johto?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 20:59:38 No.54007587 Report

Quoted By: >>54007608 >>54007693

>>54007569
>implying it's just one person
Most pokemon fans are aware that Johto is shit by now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 21:03:57 No.54007608 Report

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>>54007587
no, this is just one obnoxious niggertuber trying to capitalize on the latest thing to hate on which is johto
and it really fucking shows with his videos having the same titles every week

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 21:31:48 No.54007693 Report

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>>54007587
Calm down, discord raider. If you ever actually watched his videos you would've known he's shilling his hack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 21:38:14 No.54007718 Report

Quoted By: >>54007939

>>54007141

Zoom Zoom Zoom you will never comprehend what Pokemania was

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 21:45:19 No.54007754 Report

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>>54004089
Gen 1 has all the same problems except worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 21:51:29 No.54007782 Report

Quoted By: >>54010260 >>54010284

>>54007122
This makes sense for coverage,support and setup,but STAB should be available ASAP.Because if a mon can't use moves of its own type it has no reason to not be Normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 22:23:10 No.54007939 Report

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>>54007718
It was just a fad like any other

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jun 2023 22:48:04 No.54008058 Report

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>>54004168
>facts
Retard-chan...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 00:47:05 No.54008517 Report

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>>54005662
wrong retard
sage doesn't work if you post an image
but sage still works if you do not post an image.
and i'm not even still sure about the saging with image thing. maybe that was changed but as far as i'm aware sage still works at least without images

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 05:32:47 No.54009510 Report

Quoted By: >>54009734

>>54007478
Every episode title wasn't a caper or a pun in the 4Kids Johto run at all in English. Several included, "Playing with Fire," "The Mother of All Battles," "Hoenn Alone," "Air Time," etc.

TPCi's dub titles during Sinnoh & Kalos, Alola & Galar were far, far worse, puns, slang, alliterations, rhymes, the works. "Party Dancecapades" is the worst dub episode title ever, comes from TPCi's XY run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 06:49:48 No.54009680 Report

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>>54005662
why would you even say shit like this that's so easily proven wrong

sage

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 07:12:50 No.54009734 Report

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>>54009510
are you a former 4kids employee or something
why are you so obsessed with defending 4kids and shitting on tpci

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 08:16:11 No.54009865 Report

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>>54004140
I just flag em or make YT not recommend them for me.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 09:49:54 No.54010001 Report

Quoted By: >>54010009

You dumb faggot, quit riding the algorithm. Go back to doing your shitty listicles you were doing less than 2 months ago. For less than a single fiscal quarter you have made content that isn't a list, and it shows.
>He even rode late to the game on the "Pokemon but X" hack fad
Unironically, get fucking good. What a horrid fucking channel. Your threads only stay up because for some reason these apes can't help but post about Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 09:54:19 No.54010009 Report

Quoted By:

>>54010001
Haha, I dug a little further
>Even the Johto videos are listicles
>"I'm totally making a hack that answers these problems guys, I swear!"
>Zero presence of said hack anywhere
A fucking grifter AND an algorithmfag. I legitimately wish harm upon you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 10:22:23 No.54010069 Report

Quoted By: >>54010127

>>54004089
If Johto fanboys continue to get mad at him of course he's going to milk them endlessly
This fandom is a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 10:49:39 No.54010127 Report

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>>54007141
>>54010069
We need a containment board for Johturds. We could call it /discord/ and throw the trannies in there as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 11:56:38 No.54010260 Report

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>>54007782
types also have defensive properties
but i will agree the lack of STAB is cringe

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 12:05:45 No.54010284 Report

Quoted By: >>54010291 >>54010300 >>54010309

>>54007122
>>54007782

Pokemon has 36 types, not 18.
For example Rapidash is a flame monster with not much magic energy, it's a dumb animal, so most of its attacks are normal type. Same with Sneasel, it is mountain - cold - weather creature, with no ice magic powers, like a real life arctic fox. It cannot stand the heat, but does not create lasers out of thin air.
And no, I am not talking about the Special stat. Charmander has shit Special, but is a flame spouting creature.
It is not about Type either. Have you noticed that sub-types like fish mons get no water moves ? Yet Lapras a magical faux-pseudoLegendary has access to water magic, thunder magic, psychic magic, song, ice, flash etc.

inb4 "but Pokemon are magic monsters !"

no, they have always been mutant animals, they are one with the natural world. Some are more yokai-like than others, some are just animals with gemstone armour, or just bigger than normal.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 12:08:22 No.54010291 Report

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>>54010284

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 12:11:26 No.54010300 Report

Quoted By: >>54010357

>>54010284
>>54010291
What a dumb take considering all the moves pokemon learn from TMs.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 12:14:49 No.54010309 Report

Quoted By: >>54010357

>>54010284
>>54010291
what is it with johtoddlers and pulling the most bizarre cope you've ever seen out of their ass

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 12:42:28 No.54010357 Report

Quoted By: >>54010368

>>54010300
>>54010309
>what about muh TMs ?

you mean the technical MACHINES ?! you mean those artificial discs that FORCE your mon to learn a move that does not NATURALLY learn ? a move that might be made and improved by humans (Toxic)?

You mean to tell me that a trained dog would behave differently than a wild malnourished mutt ? wow you are breaking my mind ove'here

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 12:46:06 No.54010368 Report

Quoted By: >>54010426

>>54010357
Water types don't learn fire moves from TMs, it's still tied to their capabilities

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 13:19:44 No.54010426 Report

Quoted By: >>54010433

>>54010368

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 13:22:00 No.54010433 Report

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>>54010426
>posting tank pokemon
there are expections, but they're rare and still fit the theme of the pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 13:24:18 No.54010440 Report

Quoted By: >>54010683

it makes more sense for some pokemon to not have movepools that are geared towards being super competitive combat oriented monster slayers. it'd be like saying 'why doesn't every human carry a gun' or 'why doesn't every bird have poison' or something. not every creature is equipped to murder and fuckup its competition, or wants to, or is even capable of it.

from a gameplay perspective yeah it sucks, but it's easy to imagine some room of japanese dudes not making decisions with the competitive grindset in mind. the existence of baby pokemon alone proves they really didn't give a shit about making pokemon that were 'good'.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 14:47:10 No.54010683 Report

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>>54010440
> sucks, but it's easy to imagine some room of japanese dudes not making decisions with the competitive grindset in mind
Considering how many buffs Genwun Pokémon get they obvious do
>the existence of baby pokemon alone proves they really didn't give a shit about making pokemon that were 'good'.
Baby pokemon are such an embarrassment and get worse and worse the more you think about them. Their existence proves that’s Game Freak was either completely tone-dead on what fans actually want, or actively trolling it’s fans.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 14:48:28 No.54010691 Report

Quoted By: >>54010727 >>54012362

>>54004089
What is it with all the Johto hate on this board?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 14:49:09 No.54010695 Report

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>>54004089
These videos never have any useful or intelligent insight. It’s always just “HURRRR EVERY POKEMON NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO USE STAB WITH ITS HIGHEST OFFENSIVE STAT”

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 14:49:45 No.54010698 Report

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>>54004089
I started getting these in my Youtube recs, I genuinely believe his channel is growing off of /vp/ autists hate watching him. He's probably the one making these threads actually.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 14:57:05 No.54010727 Report

Quoted By: >>54012318

>>54010691
Shills for new games scapegoat older games to make new game look better, but Kanto has first installment privilege so Johto gets the short end of the stick like always.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 15:45:25 No.54010928 Report

Quoted By: >>54011529

>>54007082
compared to other pokemon in the same game that can actually use a STAB attack, imagine catching a fire type with the expectation you will have an advantage against bugs and grass types -- wild, I know.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 17:58:09 No.54011529 Report

Quoted By: >>54012420

>>54010928
you still have a defensive advantage

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 20:54:26 No.54012318 Report

Quoted By: >>54012345

>>54010727
Johto should have been the postgame of Kanto, not the reverse.

Gyms
>You have a bunch.of retired/retiring gym leaders and many young/inexperienced ones. Only the ghost one is Normal.

Gen 2 mons
>are hidden / sparse

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:03:46 No.54012345 Report

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>>54012318
Pokémon Golden Red

Takes place a decade before Red.
>can battle Oak
>Different Ground Gym Leader
>Johto replaces Gym Leaders with Pokémon Masters = old men at their peak (just like Oak) who have Lv80 mons. These are the Flying gym Leader's dad, Ice, Fighting Leaders in their prime, and the Dragon's den Elder.
>Characters who will become Gym Leaders may have some plot relevance or gift a TM.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:05:00 No.54012354 Report

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>>54012345
that YouTube guy should make this instead

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:06:55 No.54012362 Report

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>>54010691
Probably a consequence of johtofags spamming the board more than other genfags

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:14:07 No.54012398 Report

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>>54004089
While I agree the move pools sucked but I disagree with making everything super-easy mode.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:19:10 No.54012420 Report

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>>54011529
true but when you have other options of the same type that can actually learn a STAB move, it just feels pointless. There are exceptions for pokemon like gyarados that, along with water moves, has access to a variety of other attacks like EQ, thunderbolt, even fire blast, so lacking a STAB flying move is more reasonable. And I understand something like Foretress and magneton lacking steel STAB in gen 2, because iron tail and steel wing aren't just going to line up with them. But there's no reasoning for a shitmon like gligar to not be able to learn dig, it's a lategame mon with mediocre stats in a game where every other ground type can not only use dig, but EQ as well. Design choice or not it's just not fun to be limited to headbutt/Return as your best move

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