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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 17:37:50 No.54042843 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54042848 >>54042983 >>54043156 >>54043466

>borts get the ILCA remake to fill the gap next year
>JohtoGODS get the actual Legends game

A toast for their sacrifice

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 17:39:03 No.54042848 Report

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>>54042843
>implying there will ever be another legends spinoff
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 17:44:00 No.54042866 Report

Quoted By: >>54042924 >>54042941

>two core remakes on the same system
Still making frogposters as retarded as ever, I see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 17:52:04 No.54042904 Report

Quoted By: >>54042962 >>54042968

Wheres the logic that Johto is up next getting a legends game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 17:55:56 No.54042924 Report

Quoted By: >>54043043

>>54042866
there’s already two core remakes on the switch, autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 17:58:12 No.54042941 Report

Quoted By: >>54043055

>>54042866
The Switch has LGPE, PLA and BDSP, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:05:53 No.54042962 Report

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I really do hope they keep doing the Legends line.

>>54042904
Johto is a logical choice if you focus on the time travel aspect. You can make it a sequel and the idea is to use Celebi to get back to your own time. Or just have Celebi just pull the Johto protags in to past.
Kantoooo could be a good choice as well. Right before the "great war" , you are helping research Mew and bing bang boom leads to rocket and Mewtwo. Team Rocket, Super(Nazi) Science.
Any of them besides Alola seem like it could be a good setting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:07:54 No.54042968 Report

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>>54042904
there is none. just like with “Let’s Go Johto”, it’s baseless fantasizing because Johtocucks are desperate for even a crumb of attention from Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:09:57 No.54042983 Report

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>>54042843
shartnova doesn't have any interesting history to explore. just a soulless region based on a dirty amerimutt city

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:26:03 No.54043043 Report

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>>54042924
>LGPE is cor eguise
It's a re-imagining of Yellow, spastic. That's why Red wasn't the MC, otherwise it'd break the lore they established by making RG the start of their timeline, even re-framing Gen 3 in the context of Gen 1 events.
And that still doesn't explain how they'll make an actual second core remake on Switch, just because manchildren can't understand WHY they bother remaking shit in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:27:47 No.54043055 Report

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>>54042941
And only one of them is a core remake, the other two being a reimagining or a prequel to a canon core game that coincidentally got a remake on Switch.
2028, no sooner sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:33:47 No.54043083 Report

Quoted By: >>54043113

I don't care about pattern autism, what is a core game or remake or whatever. I hope Legends did well enough to get a sequel, because Legends Johto and Legends Kalos are begging to be made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:39:11 No.54043105 Report

Quoted By: >>54043118

>>54043043
LGPE doesn't even break that much of the lore. Geovanni still breaks up Team Rocket after losing to a child, Red and Blue are still former Pokémon League Champions, and both of them still had one last battle to see who was the better of the two. The only thing it breaks is the copycat side quest, which I don't think most people even care about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:40:24 No.54043113 Report

Quoted By: >>54043156 >>54043234

>>54043083
Only in your head. They made Legends to make a song-and-dance about getting to catch Arceus in-game for the first time, outside the Dream World event. That they also unlocked the Azure Flute in BDSP after beating Legends just proves it. They also had a fuckload of legends and lore to work with due to filling DP with a version of the Japanese creation myth,, something Johto lacks as they had little space to expand on lore in Gen 2 and Gen 4 was just to tie the rehash to the new Gen, like ORAS got tied to XY's timeframe by mentioning a Hoenn without ME (or Gen 3 originals).
Cope better with being an afterbirth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:41:33 No.54043118 Report

Quoted By: >>54043139

>>54043105
>Red doesn't stop TR
>something every core game adheres to
>"LGPE doesn't break lore"
Sit down, shut up and learn from your betters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:47:13 No.54043139 Report

Quoted By: >>54043207

>>54043118
I haven't played ORAS or USUM, but IIRC none of the dialog (outside of Masters) in the latter games specifically label Red as the one who stopped Team Rocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 18:53:11 No.54043156 Report

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>>54043113
Let >>54042843 cook, a hypothetical legends Celbi could take the place of HGSS for the gen5 remake and introduce Johtonian form of unovan pokémon. Legends Celebi could unlock the Zorua and Zoroark events in the remake. Celbi is a pokémon that lacks lore and would work with a time travel theme. great oportunity to expands on the alph ruins and old timey kanto and johto

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 19:07:36 No.54043207 Report

Quoted By: >>54043228 >>54043329

>>54043139
And yet Game Freak jumped through hoops instead of just, I dunno, re-using Red to tell the story of Yellow.
Almost as if they didn't WANT to totally remake Yellow, but rather re-tread it without fouling their lore. They are deliberate with their decisions, even if they countermand /vp/s viewpoint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 19:11:49 No.54043228 Report

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>>54043207
Why would Giovanni not stop after Red got his 8th badge then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 19:12:55 No.54043234 Report

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>>54043113
And Colosseum was to make the Johto mons missing from RSE and FRLG available in Gen 3. It still got a sequel. You can come up with whatever justifications you want. There's room for more games set in past of various regions, and rehashing old content is a staple of the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 19:15:02 No.54043242 Report

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Legends: Rayquaza is coming first tho...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 19:16:39 No.54043249 Report

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>>54043234
It was to push Gamecubes, because core Pokémon games not only gave the Game Boy a 5 year extension on its lifecycle, but it started selling GBA's when it launched on the system. Nintendo hoped TPC could recreate the magic of Game Freak's games, only for it to fail abjectly, because adults weren't going to drop such money on fucking Pokémon-lite.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 19:31:39 No.54043329 Report

Quoted By: >>54043544

>>54043207
Yeah, Gamefreak would never arbitrarily replace a protagonist for a remake just because they felt like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 20:04:30 No.54043466 Report

Quoted By: >>54043593

>>54042843
Legends
>Celebi
Player finds random golden pokeball, tosses it open and is sent to the past by a dying Celebi.
Timeline right after PLA and the towers being burned down.
Hunt down thebad guys that did it.
Starters are:
Fire/Ground Emboar variant (quadriped) w Contrary, Grass/Steel Chesnaught w Iron thorns and Water/Electric Swampert w Adaptability.
A lot of dualtype variants of mons pop up that require specific moves being tutored for evolving.
Furret gets multiple dualtype evolutions via tutored Fire Lash, Jet Punch and Electric Gunk shot clone.
Noctowl gets a Psychic/Flying evo with more bulk and SpA.
Altaria gets a Fairy/Flying variant with Aerilate.
Houndoom gets a regular evolution that puts it on paar with Arcanine stat wise with Intimidate/Flashfire/Toughclaws.
Fire/Ghost Ninetales w Sheer force.
>Jirachi
Player made the wish to go to the pokemon world now they gotta unite 12 tribes around Hoenn to get them to pray to Fugg and break down a meteor.
Also raging Dragon dual type bosses everywhere with dragon dualtyped starters: Sceptile, Feralgatr and Charizard (flightless edition).
Sceptile gets a second alt alongside its dragon typed variant with a Grass/Rock Tough claws user.
Bosses include:
Poison/Dragon Seviper w Regenerator, Dragon/Flying Duddrigeon w Technician, Water/Dragon Milotic w Serene Grace, Rock/Dragon Turtonator w Stealth rock clone of Toxic debris, Steel/Dragon Skarmory w No guard (Terror bird), Ghost/Dragon Keckleon or its evolution w Adaptability.
Lots of shitmons get evolutions:
Dark/Poison Mightyena w Strong Jaw, Normal/Electric Linoone w Levitate, Fire/Dragon or Steel/Dragon Cyclizar evos with Atk or SpA focused upgrades w Regenerator/Soaring drake (levitate clone that gives pseudo flying stab).

All games distribute more moves/abilities across various types.
Like every Fire type that has a tail gets Fire Lash as a high level/tutor move.
Flareon gets Fluffy instead of Guts etc.

Cont.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 20:24:40 No.54043544 Report

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>>54043329
But they didn't anon.
Girls are never canon to the game storylines (due to the thing being pushed foremost at little boys), thus changing a girl avatar doesn't hold the weight changing a canon protag does. Sorry you need to hold onto delusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 20:37:33 No.54043593 Report

Quoted By: >>54043703

>>54043466

>Victini
Player having won a battle simulation tournamemt is dragged away through time by Victini who wants them to become Unovas first champion.
The main villains are the main characters from BW1 each with one of the Dragons (Zekrom/Reshiram) trying to play conqueror over all of Unova.
You are working for a Paldeian dragon tamer tribe who take you in (led by N ancestor).
Through the plot you discover how the 3 dragons were created through experimentation and living sacrifice to a mysterious a meteor shard.
Dragons are explained as human experiments taken to extremes rather than natural beings or "the original dragon".
Kyurem is unleashed by the bandit ancestors of Cillian and co. 2 of which die after sending it into a frenzy and the third passes down stories of it eating humans after loosing his siblings.
One of the main villains succeeds through the story by forcefully fusing Reshiram/Zekrom to Kyurem.
You only get to stop them by creating a 4th Dragon through joint effort with prevous allies and fusing it with the other of the Ideal/Truth duo.
The 4th Dragon represents Unity and is Dragon/Rock in its normal form with Dragon/Steel w Zekrom and Dragon/Fighting w Reshiram.
Starters are:
Water/Steel Blastoise with Simple, Grass/Rock Meganium with Regenerator and Fire/Fighting Incimeroar.
Regional variants include:
Grass/Steel Sandslash w Super luck, Grass Persian (mountain lion) w No Guard (power whip abuser), Ice Mabostif w Fluffy/Strong Jaw, Rock/Fighting Riolu alt evolution vua Accelerock (tying it to Lycarock midnight) w No guard/Technician (fast physical instead of mixed attacker), Ground/Flying Rapidash w Technician/Stamina, Fire/Ghost Houndoom line w Intimidate/Flashfire/Stakeout, Fighting/Flying Braivary ancient variant v Contrary and Ghost/Flying ancient variant of Mandibuzz w Poison heal, Arbok Poison/Grass evolution w Simple/Regenerator.

Cont.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 21:03:41 No.54043703 Report

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>>54043593
>Zygarde
Playerplays around with a mechanical Russian egg pokeball toy equivalent when a Zygarde jumps out and states that the past needs to be put back into balance.
Right after the ancient war was ended by Az ypu arrive among the survivors who are rebuilding.
You start as a stable boy (homage to Charlemagne) and gradually beat down Az through the story who needs to get back to his senses.
Starters are:
Grass/Fairy Vemasaur w Magic guard, Fire/Dark Blaizeken w Adaptability and Water/Ice Empoleon w Texhnician.

Megas make a return with new ones introduced:
Mega Talonflame w Regenerator (+50Atk/Def).
Mega Goodra Poison/Dragon w Simple (+50Def/SpD).
Mega Noiveirn w Aerilate (+40Atk/Def +20Speed).
Mega Pyroar w Huge Power (+40Def/SpD +10SpA/Speed).
Mega Gogoat w Rock Head Grass/Rock (+30Atk/Def +40Speed).
Mega Pangoro w Contrary (+30Def/SpD +40 Speed).
Mega Toxicroack w Tough Claws Poison/Dark (+20 Atk/Speed +30Def/SpD).
Mega Crobat w Speed boost (+40Atk/SpA +10 Def/SpD).
Mega Haxorus Deagon/Steel w No Guard (+40Def/SpD +20 Speed).

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