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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 22:43:58 No.54044143 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54044166 >>54044167 >>54044297 >>54044542

This shit basically confirms that you don't need to beat the main game to access the dlc just like SWSH

The people that are expecting some kind of narrative are gonna be dissapointment

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 22:48:12 No.54044162 Report

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Can't wait for the game to hit me with that level 60 Poochyena's Tackle.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 22:50:16 No.54044166 Report

Quoted By: >>54044213

>>54044143
If you went out of the initial reveal expecting anything besides a seperate scenario you were on something; random new focal point characters for DLC made it being seperate stories apparent as hell.
And sword had the exact same precident; the first DLC was completely disconnnected and DLC2 only had a light tie to the main game. Which is the same case here.
You did not need the full trailer to figure this out.

The different being that SV wants DLC1 and 2 connected, but it still runs with the idea that its a disconnected plot that can run before the post game in 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 22:50:22 No.54044167 Report

Quoted By: >>54044233 >>54044259 >>54044419 >>54044422

>>54044143
Is Pokemon the only game that handles DLC like this? Most games I've played require you to beat the game first, or the DLC is through the perspective of another character/timeline.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:02:08 No.54044213 Report

Quoted By: >>54044286

>>54044166
>The different being that SV wants DLC1 and 2 connected, but it still runs with the idea that its a disconnected plot that can run before the post game in 1.

That doesn't make any sense in the actual game tho

Nemona didnt want to even battle you for real or join you to area zero because you were not champion level, and somehow you got transfered to a new academy that specializes in battles without even a gym badge

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:05:20 No.54044233 Report

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>>54044167
>Most games I've played require you to beat the game first

Such as? Most games that have dlc make it so the content can be done anytime, mostly out of cowardice. They're terrified of going "you HAVE to beat the game to play this" because they think it'll cost them sales. Which is probably true, but the number has to be so low that it doesn't matter.

In fact all the big games that came out the last year with dlc isn't post game. Like,do people think the elden ring or any possible zelda dlc will be post game?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:10:21 No.54044259 Report

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>>54044167
I think alot of games split it up. Most DLC i have played usually let you jump into it in the middle of the game, others are a continuation of the story

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:16:49 No.54044286 Report

Quoted By: >>54044302

>>54044213
You probably will have to beat mask for disc considering they are confirmed to be linked.
Which based on armor, would involve "post game" content potentially. You only got giga Ushifu once you beat everything in the base game if I remember right?

So as a vague guess, you have to beat the postgame to activate an event to either catch the Ogre or to get its "true form".
And only then will the proper endstate of Kitakami be reached; you'll be able to get the legendaries and fight most trainers but it won't be finished until a postgame state.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:18:51 No.54044297 Report

Quoted By: >>54044338

>>54044143
From the official site:
> Note: In order to begin the main story of Part 1: The Teal Mask, you will need to have begun your Treasure Hunt in Pokémon Scarlet or Pokémon Violet. The start of the Treasure Hunt occurs after about three hours of gameplay, though individual gameplay time may vary. In order to begin the main story of Part 2: The Indigo Disk, you will need to have reached the ending of your Pokémon Scarlet or Pokémon Violet game and completed the main story of Part 1: The Teal Mask.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:19:53 No.54044302 Report

Quoted By: >>54044338 >>54044368

>>54044286
The same thing happened in SWSH. Even though you could do Crown Tundra whenever you wanted, you couldn’t even try and battle Ride Form Calyrex until you completed the main game and got into post.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:26:25 No.54044338 Report

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>>54044297
Ah I was trying to find that but couldn't so I went on a stray thought about "hey Armor had postgame locked content",
>The start of the Treasure Hunt occurs after about three hours of gameplay
Everytime I'm reminded of this I feel pain.

>>54044302
Tundra also happens to have unscaled level 70 battles everywhere if i remember right. Actually I really have to wonder if the scaling thought is correct as they didn't even pursue that shit when it made sense.
Might just be actual level 10s for a bit in mask regardless of gamestate eh? Genius strategy for a game thats been out for ages now.

Fever dream scaling coming back isn't super implausible though. Course the DLCs have been used to test shit before so maybe we'll get the coveted "thresholds actually change stuff beyond level" thought.
Probably not though as that relies on GF thinking at all.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:32:32 No.54044368 Report

Quoted By: >>54044445 >>54044614

>>54044302

Did You really need to beat the main game?

I remember in dynamax adventures they literally give you lv 70 pokemon

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:43:46 No.54044419 Report

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>>54044167
Technically Doom Eternal, but it expects you to have finished the base game.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:45:11 No.54044422 Report

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>>54044167
Skyrim does it kinda like this

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:49:57 No.54044445 Report

Quoted By: >>54044451

>>54044368
I'm pretty sure you had to beat a guy with two level 70s to even get into Adventures?
Outside of the tournament(which is post game for obvious reasons as its just rematching endgame fights) I don't think any "true" content is locked in Tundra, unlike Armor.
Not seeing any mention of conditions for Calyrex atleast. But I was right about Giga Ushifu, you needed to beat the sword twins to gain access to that.
Getting Ushifu during midgame? Fine, but giga must be postgame for whatever reason.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:50:54 No.54044451 Report

Quoted By: >>54044478

>>54044445
You could lose the battle, it was just a stall so his daughter could give him the slip.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:56:26 No.54044478 Report

Quoted By: >>54044488

>>54044451
Certainly sounds like sword. Definitely a tad questionable design wise, its not like the fight in question would be hard for what the player should be in theory scaled to. Its insanely lenient in fact.
At the very least this happening again is off the table based on their own statements. I'm pretty sure on the idea that Kitakami is going to have post game type content just sorta stashed away and thats the real "lock" for disc though.
Rather than it being an extra check. The linked DLCs can stop some of GFs retardation.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jul 2023 23:59:27 No.54044488 Report

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>>54044478
Anon, they're making this shit for 7 year olds to shout for at christmas, give over thinking this is gonna be some game-changing DLC for the pokémon brand.
It's just filler while they work on the next new Gen pair, as always.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 00:07:48 No.54044514 Report

Quoted By: >>54044541

>>54044488
What on earth are you even saying? What "earth shattering" concepts am I implying.
That the reason why Disc probably has a "post game lock" is because Mask probably has something similar to armor? Is that what we're considering out there now?
Shit that GF did already in a even lazier game is fantasy now I guess. Also thinking that kids actually get DLC for christmas is probably the retarded shit GF are on, despite that being realistically a miniscule part of their playerbase.
Would be detrimental if the average pokemon player wasn't a colossal shit eater, but hey you can say that about most of their design choices eh?

DLCs aren't true filler anyway, they're built just like the main games to sell you new mons. They realized right before sword that yearly mons probably should be a tad more numorous.
And so the DLCs(and "remake/gen reuse") have like 20 mons(forms included) each to shill.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 00:16:18 No.54044541 Report

Quoted By: >>54044582

>>54044514
They're rehash replacements, rehashes were built off the filler Blue and Special Pikachu Edition games made to keep Pokémon hype going in Japan while Game Freak failed to make Gen 2 in 1-2 years like Nintendo wanted.
That they suddenly turned 'round and started calling them something different doesn't change what they functionally are.
And yes anon, the bundled game and DLC sells to majority children at christmas, especially when most adults who cared would have had AMPLE time to pre-order their copy of the DLC, never mind already own a Switch unit to play it on.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 00:16:44 No.54044542 Report

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>>54044143
I'm just happy that Poochyena is back.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 00:18:52 No.54044548 Report

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>>54044542
Based Poochyena appreciator

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 00:25:34 No.54044582 Report

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>>54044541
>And yes anon, the bundled game and DLC sells to majority children at christmas
Most children considering sales numbers would have already finished the fucking game, I don't think what you are implying matches up.
And even if they got the whole ass game, that'd mean they'd have the main game to play through anyway. What you are trying to say is GF levels of stupid either way, my statement very much still stands.
>That they suddenly turned 'round and started calling them something different doesn't change what they functionally are.
No but the actual functionality does, which is what you've completely left out. You quite literally just ignored the entire point and cried about how blue as literally just reframed content so the DLCs are as well.
Despite shilling a bunch of mons; the general purpose of the main games at this point.

All the logic you've thrown out is terminally retarded.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 00:33:28 No.54044614 Report

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>>54044368
Yeah, that’s not what was locked, Calyrex could be completed up to confronting and taming the Steed and obtaining the ‘Rider’ form. It literally would tell you you are not strong enough, if you attempted to interact with Calyrex after that point. Even with full badges, it required you to at least beat Rose/Eternatus.

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