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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 15:05:22 No.54066047 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54066075 >>54066082 >>54066574 >>54068018 >>54068831 >>54068851 >>54069343 >>54070213

>B2W2 hard mode
>Your pokémon level up more due to higher level opponents
>Your opponents don't get any stronger because GF forgot to increase their stats

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 15:06:12 No.54066050 Report

Quoted By: >>54066936

discord thread

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 15:09:16 No.54066060 Report

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Two Genwarring faggots above me

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 15:11:33 No.54066075 Report

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>>54066047
>All enemies deal more damage due to how the dmg calculation factors in level as part of it
>To compensate, you level up faster to MAYBE get some use out of all the unova mons that evolve post-50
Lazy, but not a bad idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 15:14:20 No.54066082 Report

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>>54066047
https://twitter.com/FlygonHG/status/1568381042855219202
>9 september 2022

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 16:49:41 No.54066435 Report

Quoted By: >>54066441 >>54066857 >>54067643 >>54067689 >>54067764

I did some checking and testing:

>Using a cheat to see the enemy's HP reveals that yes, they are using the stats corresponding to the original level. Natures can be different, though.
>In practice the difference isn't that egregious because the actual level value (the number) does play a part in the damage calculation. In case of Iris' Druddigon, the stats remaining the same as level 57 is roughly equivalent to battling against a level 63 Druddigon with worse IVs.
>When using cheats and catching the trainer's Pokémon, they revert back to the Normal mode levels.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 16:50:43 No.54066441 Report

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>>54066435
Interesting.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 16:55:19 No.54066470 Report

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>gamefreak can't even code a proper hard mode
i don't even have a proper reaction image for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 17:22:58 No.54066574 Report

Quoted By: >>54066940 >>54069405

>>54066047
>forgot to increase their stats
they didn't "forget" anything. it's harder to code it the way that they did than to code it in a way that would affect stats. they did it on purpose for some reason.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 18:20:40 No.54066857 Report

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>>54066435
They apparently use better AI too

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 18:32:23 No.54066919 Report

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>>54066857
not to mention they have better movesets

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 18:37:34 No.54066936 Report

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>>54066050
How much does GF pay you to shill their games?

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 18:38:43 No.54066940 Report

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>>54066574
It's pretty sad when there are entire hacks with actually increased difficulties including IV/EV/Nature/Abilities, running on spaghetti pirated code. GameFreak is a fucking joke.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 21:14:13 No.54067643 Report

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>>54066435
>Our system thinks your post is spam.
Fuck off, I'll just post it inside the image.

I've completed the image with some Easy mode data.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 21:20:31 No.54067673 Report

Quoted By: >>54067682 >>54067709

>>54067643
>If you play using level caps....

Easy Mode is "harder" than Normal Mode in every scenario, reduced EXP again with no other changes.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 21:22:30 No.54067682 Report

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>>54067673
I’d use the word “tedious” instead of hard.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 21:25:09 No.54067689 Report

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>>54066435
Now that's just weird and autistic to do.
>We want to make it harder
>but only visually

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 21:29:39 No.54067709 Report

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>>54067673
damage is lower and AI worse

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 21:43:24 No.54067764 Report

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>>54066435
>>54067643
Small indie company please understand

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 21:53:37 No.54067819 Report

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>>54067709
Movepool and items are on the mix too, the only big blunder is flame orb sheer force Conkeldur

Scarf Chandelure and lo Salamance/Metagross are highlights of the elite 4

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 22:21:46 No.54067959 Report

Quoted By: >>54067971 >>54068428

Is Gamefreak the most retarded developer out there?

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 22:24:17 No.54067971 Report

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>>54067959
Blizzard exists, so no.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jul 2023 22:35:48 No.54068018 Report

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>>54066047
ILCA >>>>>>>>>>>>> GF

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 00:27:31 No.54068428 Report

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>>54067959
Nah, somehow there's plenty worse.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 00:36:05 No.54068457 Report

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>>54066857
>>54066919
And better items

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 02:16:47 No.54068831 Report

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>>54066047
>gamefreak is incompetent
Yeah, we know

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 02:21:04 No.54068851 Report

Quoted By: >>54068868 >>54069326

>>54066047
So, how about those better movesets and additional Pokemon?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 02:26:16 No.54068868 Report

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>>54068851
yeah I love how the gym leaders have additional pokemon so I can get even more exp to effortlessly sweep them

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 04:14:26 No.54069199 Report

Quoted By: >>54069211

>having more pokemon is le bad because more exp
is this the new narrative to justify 4 pokemon gym leaders/elite 4 until post gamee?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 04:18:36 No.54069211 Report

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>>54069199
>>having more pokemon is le bad because more exp
Correct.

More pokemon is only more challenging when it works like USUM and PLA where you have to 1v2 or 1v3.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 05:02:19 No.54069326 Report

Quoted By: >>54069373 >>54070629

>>54068851
>better moveset
Aren't e4 members given worse movesets in """""hard""""" mode?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 05:05:56 No.54069343 Report

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>>54066047
what do you expect from retard-proofed nugen slop like nig and shite 2

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 05:17:40 No.54069373 Report

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>>54069326
Only Marshall, the rest are buffed quite a bit

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 05:29:36 No.54069405 Report

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>>54066574
I don't even get why they coded it in a way they did. The only logical answer would be issues with space but even in 2011 we were not living in times of tiny, little Gameboy carts and I don't think that additional tables with fully coded new teams would take so much space.

Anyway, this kinda makes any Nuzlocke shenanigans with level caps more interesting because iirc Easy Mode also has this issue but with lowered levels. So you have lowered level caps but Pokemon still have their normal level stats.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:26:49 No.54070213 Report

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>>54066047
I was amazed back then and I am still amazed now at how difficult it is for this franchise to handle something as basic as difficulty selection.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 13:06:16 No.54070295 Report

Quoted By: >>54070456 >>54070479

Still objectively better than having no difficulty options at all. Seethe and cry more, zoomers.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 14:07:22 No.54070456 Report

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>>54070295
annoying homo

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 14:12:46 No.54070479 Report

Quoted By: >>54070664 >>54070678 >>54070743

>>54070295
>two easy modes is better than having no difficulty options at all
not really
they could have spent that development time actually improving the game

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 14:47:01 No.54070629 Report

Quoted By: >>54070638

>>54069373
>>54069326
E4 members don't get any moveset changes in challenge mode, they just get items and more pokémon (and replace some of their weaker mons, like Grimsley replacing his Liepard with a Tyranitar)

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 14:50:35 No.54070638 Report

Quoted By: >>54070684

>>54070629
oh, nevermind, there IS a change

Marshall's conkeldurr's ability is changed from guts to sheer force in the rematch (this happens in all difficulties), but its item remains a flame orb in challenge mode

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 14:56:15 No.54070664 Report

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>>54070479
BW2 are among the best games in the series already

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 14:57:41 No.54070668 Report

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>>54070664
Yeah I’m sure if you keep spamming that every chance you get people will eventually believe it’s true

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 14:58:14 No.54070669 Report

Quoted By: >>54070678

>>54070664
d-tier nugen slop

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 14:59:49 No.54070678 Report

Quoted By: >>54070959

>>54070456
>>54070479
>>54070668
>>54070669
nice coping as expected
spamming that it's easy won't change reality, and neither will the fact that Gen 5 is good ever change, either.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 15:00:24 No.54070684 Report

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>>54070638
>flame orb sheer force
peak gamefreak, not even sword and shield can beat that

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 15:15:26 No.54070743 Report

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>>54070479
Except they couldn't, because BW2 is the peak of the franchise.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 16:03:36 No.54070959 Report

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>>54070678
If you find a children's game anything other than easy you might be mentally deficient

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 16:32:08 No.54071086 Report

Quoted By: >>54072309

>>54070743
*downfall of the franchise

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 21:14:15 No.54072309 Report

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>>54071086
How does it feel being the downfall of taste?

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