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Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 21:56:58 No.54143469 View View Reply Original Report

If Alola had better new mons then I feel like Gen 7 wouldn't be so overlooked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 21:59:03 No.54143482 Report

Quoted By: >>54144989 >>54145001 >>54145588

?? overlooked by who? redditors who do nothing but jerk off BW2 all day?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 22:10:27 No.54143528 Report

Quoted By: >>54145593 >>54145602

>>54143469
Alola has been pretty well received in general I think. There were the loud initial doomers but after they moved on to LGPE I saw mostly positivity for SM/USUM even here. The only consistent complaint is people who rushed the story thinking they were railroaded, and even that isn't seen too often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 22:17:33 No.54143568 Report

Quoted By: >>54145020 >>54145596 >>54146607

>>54143469
Alola has one of the best dexes in the series. Not sure how you could do better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 22:24:59 No.54143596 Report

Quoted By: >>54146321

It was the shitty fucking map and the entire first island being a fucking tutorial

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 22:29:29 No.54143609 Report

Quoted By: >>54143635

>>54143469
You got to bake some delicious cookies in these games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 22:37:56 No.54143635 Report

Quoted By: >>54145042

>>54143609
Do you mean malasadas, Anon? I don't remember any cookies in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 22:41:39 No.54143648 Report

Quoted By: >>54145601

>>54143469
Gen 7 mon are great. Up there with Gen 3 for me. The only place they went wrong was intentionally gimping their speed to fit the 'Laid back island setting'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 22:51:46 No.54143689 Report

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>>54143469
Gen 7 isn't overlooked, it's just the manchildren and gen alpha kids that cry about them. It sold great, saved the franchise after gen 6 flopped so hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:25:38 No.54143858 Report

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>>54143469
It could have the best dex imaginable and it'd still be dogshit. Worst Pokémon game period (haven't played Shit & Shart or Scat & Vomit but I don't care).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:46:45 No.54143962 Report

Quoted By: >>54144022 >>54144999

>>54143469
Mons were not the problem. It’s the over abundance of cutscenes, crappy and slow animations, hand holding, railroading, fades to black, slow tutorial, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:57:58 No.54144022 Report

Quoted By: >>54144999

>>54143962
This.
I quite like, or are at the very least are ok with a majority of the Pokemon in SM. There are some real STINKERS, sure, but most gens nowadays do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 04:59:11 No.54144989 Report

Quoted By: >>54146371 >>54153381

>>54143482
Rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 05:04:11 No.54144999 Report

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>>54143962
>>54144022
for me it's the exact opposite. i really despise gen 7's mon designs like any of the 3D gens but i really enjoyed SM/USUM in terms of gameplay. easily my favorite out of the 3D gens (not really saying a whole lot given how bad the switch era is) and i also like them a lot better than DPPt which are my least favorite 2D games. maybe GSC and FRLG as well depending on my mood

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 05:07:45 No.54145001 Report

Quoted By: >>54153381

>>54143482
Hahahaha so defensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 05:17:44 No.54145020 Report

Quoted By: >>54146244 >>54146317

>>54143568
>70-80 new mons
>dev time wasted to implement regional variants which for the most part are glorified shiny pokemon, some of the laziest designs in the series
>fursona starters
>zeraora
>gumshoos
it definitely could have been better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 05:26:01 No.54145042 Report

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>>54143635
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 07:00:27 No.54145234 Report

Quoted By: >>54145609

>>54143469
fuck are you talking about? gen 7 had to most solid dex out of every other nu gen. every reveal was kino and the hype season was second only to ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 07:02:34 No.54145237 Report

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>>54143469
I'm playing through it for the first time right now and it is a great gen. I don't understand what all you peoples problem is. It's a fun game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 10:16:01 No.54145583 Report

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>>54143469
gen 7 are the worst games in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 10:17:01 No.54145588 Report

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>>54143482
yeah since they do have superior taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 10:18:02 No.54145593 Report

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>>54143528
nah those are faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 10:19:03 No.54145596 Report

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>>54143568
nah it has the worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 10:20:05 No.54145601 Report

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>>54143648
nah they aren't they are the worst in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 10:20:06 No.54145602 Report

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>>54143528
Bullfucking shit theres no railroad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 10:21:06 No.54145609 Report

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>>54145234
no it didn't it had the worst in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 11:54:45 No.54145841 Report

Quoted By: >>54145865 >>54145870

>>54143469
Disagree, i like a lot of the gen 7 mons, its the bland region and annoying ass story at fault

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 12:06:44 No.54145865 Report

Quoted By: >>54149042

>>54145841
>bland region
It's one of the best regions, the islands, locales, aesthetics, and customs are amazing. It's definitely by idea of a pokemon paradise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 12:06:44 No.54145866 Report

Quoted By: >>54149048

>>54143469
I may not like gen 7 games, but the new pokemon were one of best designed creatures we got yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 12:07:57 No.54145870 Report

Quoted By: >>54148046 >>54149052

>>54145841
>the bland region
Bro. alola is a lot of problems but being BLAND is not one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 14:45:34 No.54146240 Report

Quoted By: >>54149054

>>54143469
Alola was peak Pokemon and I am tired of pretending its not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 14:48:19 No.54146244 Report

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>>54145020
zeraora is good thoughever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 14:54:20 No.54146256 Report

Quoted By: >>54146321

>>54143469
This, but Unova and gen 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 14:59:27 No.54146277 Report

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>>54143469
>muh let’s make things different for the sake of being different!!! No more gyms! No more HMs!
>huh? New Pokémon? Just recycle old ones lol
Gen 7 is terrible and I’m concerned to see redditors latch onto it like they did with gen 5 for the unova good sinnoh bad meme. Well, at least this time they won’t be ruining something good, since gen 7 is trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:15:05 No.54146317 Report

Quoted By: >>54146344 >>54146351

>>54145020
>>70-80 new mons
Not sure I see the issue with this
>>dev time wasted to implement regional variants which for the most part are glorified shiny pokemon, some of the laziest designs in the series
I just consider them form changes, they don't even take up a dex slot. Not sure how you can say this when Paradox Pokemon exist.
>>fursona starters
That's just how it is starting since Gen 6. At least they're the best designed fursona mons for the nustarters
>>zeraora
Okay yeah, this is bad
>>gumshoos
Unremarkable route 1 shitmon. Kind of a tradition at this point. It's fine for what it is and has meme potential.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:16:21 No.54146321 Report

Quoted By: >>54151503

>>54143469
Really? Aside from the starters being awful (nothing new since gen 5) the dex was awesome and made me realize nu pokemon can have cool designs that could belong in gen 1 and 2. (Pic obviously related)

Literally gen 7 made regain my faith in nu pokemon designs after how shit Unova and Kalos were until Galar shat the bed even harder than Unova which is an achievement on it's own. Paldea was Kalos tier though.

>>54143596
This, what killed gen 7 was the hand holding and cutscenes

>>54146256
This so much, unovabortions always go "well people didn't like them because it was a dex full of new pokemon not because they are shit designs!" But forget gen 1 was also a dex full of new pokemon and everyone loved them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:26:22 No.54146344 Report

Quoted By: >>54146354

>>54146317
>Not sure I see the issue with this
less new mons = bad
>I just consider them form changes
it's inherently lazier than making a design from the ground up
>Not sure how you can say this when Paradox Pokemon exist
oh don't get me wrong i also hate paradox mons
>Unremarkable route 1 shitmon. Kind of a tradition at this point
horrible excuse when Furret and Linoone exist. those are good designs. even Raticate is just okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:28:08 No.54146351 Report

Quoted By: >>54146401

>>54146317
forgot one
>That's just how it is starting since Gen 6
so? just because it happened in one gen doesn't mean it should continue. why can't we get starters like the ones in the first two gens. all of those designs are good, even Charizard if you can get past the fact that it's shilled into oblivion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:29:28 No.54146354 Report

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>>54146344
>I want more for the sake of it
Fuck off, we don't need more quantity over quality dex filled shit dexes like shitnova's

>linoone
>good designs
Linoone is boring as fuck compared to Gumshoos, Furred is top tier though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:36:35 No.54146371 Report

Quoted By: >>54153210

>>54144989
Obsessed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:36:43 No.54146372 Report

Quoted By: >>54146387

>reddit spacing
>actually shitting on Linoone
>actually praising Gumshoos
yep, that's bait alright

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:38:13 No.54146378 Report

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Most Regional Route 1 shitmons have bad designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:40:48 No.54146387 Report

Quoted By: >>54146412

>>54146372
>b-bait
Gen 3 is my first gen and I think Linoone is one of the most boring route 1 mons, what the fuck do you see in it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:44:03 No.54146401 Report

Quoted By: >>54149057

>>54146351
Meganium has a shit design

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 15:48:35 No.54146412 Report

Quoted By: >>54146482

>>54146387
hard to say. i guess it's the least offensive. Linoone is not one of my favorite pokemon but as far as the rodents go, it is certainly the best alongside Furret. almost every other regional rodent does something that keeps me from liking them to varying degrees
>Raticate
rats and mice aren't interesting animals
>Bibarel
a bit too goofy looking, but not horrible
>Watchog
repulsive but gen 5 still has plenty of good designs i think Watchog is sort of an outlier here
>gen 6+
all are them are really repulsive but gen 6+ in general has repulsive designs so i don't think that should come as a surprise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 16:06:42 No.54146482 Report

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>>54146412
>raticate
I like it better than Linoone, looks aggresive and shit
>bibarel
True, worse than Linoone
>watchog
True that thing is hideous
>Diggersby
Also hideous
>Gumshoos
Less hideous than the other two and has personality than Linoone
>Ugly Wooloo Evo
Don't care, ruined a good line, worse than linoone
>the pig thing
This one is pretty okay, I like it more than Linoone

True compares to most of them Linoone may be boring but it's not an abomination you want to box

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 16:51:13 No.54146607 Report

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>>54143568
Wrong.I will point 3 examples from route 1,because they are your introduction to the new mons.
> Toucannon is a slow Normal/Flying.It's a worse Staraptor,a repeat of Unfezant.
> Gumshoos is a slow Normal with an interesting ability it will never use in-game and can't make it usable in comp.
> Vikavolt is slow and a PITA to train.It not only evolves super late,on an area where its level would be on par with Kommo-o,it also changes its main offensive stat.
When your first non starter new mons are downgrades from Kalos your dex is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 16:53:11 No.54146613 Report

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>>54143469
The new Pokemon were good. It's the cutscenes, handholding, lag and hallway routes that make them bad

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:29:07 No.54147936 Report

Quoted By: >>54147988

>>54143469
I was going to say you're wrong but damn I forgot just how much mediocre to outright bad pokemon Gen 7 had

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:47:29 No.54147988 Report

Quoted By: >>54148030

>>54147936
>Tsareena, Salazzle and Pheromosa in F tier
Beyond horrible taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 23:59:12 No.54148030 Report

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>>54147988
I'm not a faggot pokefucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 00:03:37 No.54148046 Report

Quoted By: >>54148063

>>54145870
I’ve played through 3 times and can barely remember the region. Other than being railroaded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 00:08:47 No.54148063 Report

Quoted By: >>54148239 >>54149066

>>54148046
Did you actually do anything other than rush the story? It's basically impossible to feel "railroaded" in Alola if you ever try to explore. Outside of the first 30 minutes and a few major story events you'll find something optional to do at pretty much any time you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 00:45:28 No.54148231 Report

Quoted By: >>54149070

>>54143469
Alola had one of the better sets of Pokemon. Its issue is there being so much fucking text and railroading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 00:46:20 No.54148239 Report

Quoted By: >>54148318

>>54148063
It's not a very good game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 01:02:34 No.54148318 Report

Quoted By: >>54149073

>>54148239
You keep saying that, but won't even answer whether you actually played it or not. I'm starting to think you just fell for the doomer narrative and didn't bother to look at the game at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:13:41 No.54149042 Report

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>>54145865
fuck no its the worst in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:14:43 No.54149048 Report

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>>54145866
no they really weren't decidueye was the only one i really liked

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:15:44 No.54149052 Report

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>>54145870
it was the most dull time i have ever had playing a pokemon game i wen't right back to Alpha Sapphire when i was done i was so fucking bored of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:16:45 No.54149054 Report

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>>54146240
no it fucking wasn't it was the low point of pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:17:52 No.54149057 Report

Quoted By:

>>54146401
nah you do

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:20:06 No.54149066 Report

Quoted By: >>54149995

>>54148063
no there isn't its all a straight fucking line there is no explorability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:21:08 No.54149070 Report

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>>54148231
no it didn't it had the worst in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:22:09 No.54149073 Report

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>>54148318
nope i played through it and it was so mind numbingly boring i never felt the desire to ever play it again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 10:24:50 No.54149995 Report

Quoted By: >>54150127

>>54149066
It's very impressive that you manage to play any games or post here despite being completely blind, but please don't think that means you are an effective judge of quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 11:21:12 No.54150127 Report

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>>54149995
my vision is perfect you must be blind not to notice how railroad filled this game is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 11:50:01 No.54150194 Report

Quoted By: >>54150487

>>54143469
It has the privilege of being one of the fewer gens (maybe the only one) that can say it's "not as bad as the previous one"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 14:05:00 No.54150487 Report

Quoted By: >>54150731

>>54150194
>maybe the only one
Even most of the people who didn't like gen 9 usually concede that Sword and Shield were worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 15:26:23 No.54150731 Report

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>>54150487
anybody who says that is a lunatic
>fixed none of swshit's bullshit, same dexcut, same move cut, same forced exp share, same shitty raids, same dlc scam, same shit battle animations, same shitty following mons, etc.
>continues to remove more features like battle facilities, set mode, optional battle animations, etc.
literally swoosh 2 more cut corners edition

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:47:41 No.54151503 Report

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>>54146321
Golisopod is such a based design but ruined by his meme ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:52:28 No.54151524 Report

Quoted By: >>54151567

The only thing worse than removing Day/Night cycles from RSE was reversing Day/Night in Moon/Ultra Moon. The fuck were they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 19:05:14 No.54151567 Report

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>>54151524
They were thinking a game themed around the moon should let you see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 02:06:49 No.54153210 Report

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>>54146371
You’re the one obsessed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 02:47:55 No.54153381 Report

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>>54144989
>>54145001
Unovafags stick together lmao 7 hours later and you both show up at the same time.

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