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Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:07:36 No.54143759 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54143777 >>54143780 >>54143788 >>54143797 >>54143827 >>54143866 >>54143872 >>54143933 >>54144038 >>54144272 >>54144281 >>54145930

You mean to tell me that people like this over Megas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:12:10 No.54143777 Report

Quoted By: >>54143866

>>54143759
They're much better gameplay-wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:12:43 No.54143780 Report

Quoted By: >>54143866

>>54143759
Gameplay-wise, they're much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:15:22 No.54143788 Report

Quoted By: >>54143866 >>54143905

>>54143759
Atleast they don't take up the item slot so yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:16:36 No.54143795 Report

Quoted By: >>54143866

Megas were good in paper but flawed in practice.
>Only a few mons get a mega
>You can't even use any mega you want, as some are better than others
Tera mogs it in the gameplay department its just facts

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:17:16 No.54143797 Report

Quoted By: >>54143866

>>54143759
Megas where Game Freak telling use that only 46 Pokemon were worthy of being aces.
Teras are far better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:20:55 No.54143827 Report

Quoted By: >>54143866

>>54143759
Megas grew on me, but tera is far more flexible and more interesting in terms of meta. With megas you'd have an idea of which mon was going to use it, on top of it taking up the item slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:24:11 No.54143848 Report

Quoted By: >>54143866

Megas were cool from a "gotta catch em all, look at my favorite pokemon" standpoint
Tera is the best gimmick from a competitive standpoint, though. It has a low skill floor so anyone can understand it, but the skill ceiling is pretty high too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:27:17 No.54143866 Report

Quoted By: >>54143917 >>54143926 >>54143984 >>54144262

>>54143759
Of course they do, OP. Why do you think these games sell so well? The consumer is a mindbroken payslave that will always prefer whatever GF tells them to when they get their firmware update.
See:
>>54143777
>>54143780
>>54143788
>>54143795
>>54143797
>>54143827
>>54143848

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:27:55 No.54143872 Report

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>>54143759
yeah 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:34:00 No.54143905 Report

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>>54143788
And tera can be used by any mon and can be taken advantage of(both defensively and offensively)
Unironically the best gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:35:44 No.54143912 Report

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Yes. Sure it looks like shit but so did most Mega designs anyway so it's a moot point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:36:12 No.54143916 Report

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I liked megas a lot, but there should have been a wider availability or it should have been a permanent form. An idea I liked is two megas can't be on the same team, or they KO each other instantly.

I like terra though because any pokemon can be your "bro" or ace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:36:25 No.54143917 Report

Quoted By: >>54143948

>>54143866
>he says proudly in defense of the nostalgiabait marketing gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:38:16 No.54143926 Report

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>>54143866
I never bought SwSh tho :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:40:10 No.54143933 Report

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>>54143759
>Gameplay-wise
Tera >> Z-moves > Megas > Dynamax
>Style points/Cool factor
Megas >>>> Dynamax > Z-moves > Tera

That said, Dynamax Raids in SwSh were better than Tera Raids in SV.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:40:16 No.54143934 Report

Quoted By: >>54143946 >>54143949 >>54143977 >>54143981

>all these shills
Fuck this gay board and fuck this ugly ass gimmick. It takes mental illness to look at this shit and find it tolerable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:43:57 No.54143946 Report

Quoted By: >>54143956 >>54143967

>>54143934
>look at this shit and find it tolerable
Maybe you didn't excel in reading at school but people have largely been talking about functionality, not appearance. Even then, appearance doesn't even excuse Megas either since there are some downright stains of designs people are expected to put up with too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:44:01 No.54143948 Report

Quoted By: >>54143966

>>54143917
>aiming a new gimmick at actual fans instead of your already stockholm syndrome'd subhuman fanbase is a bad thing
No one made a statement on Megas' quality in a vacuum either, but it's undoubtably better than this trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:44:18 No.54143949 Report

Quoted By: >>54143956 >>54143967

>>54143934
It looks like shit but is much better mechanically, not that Mega designs were particularly inspired for the most part either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:45:57 No.54143956 Report

Quoted By: >>54143963 >>54143986

>>54143946
>>54143949
Irrelevant unless you're a slave that only plays this shit franchise. Go play a real game instead of this slop, or even the older games. Stop being a slave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:46:48 No.54143963 Report

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>>54143956
Imagine playing Pokémon for the graphics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:47:17 No.54143966 Report

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>>54143948
that's a cute way to dress up sucking gf cock when it suits your bias, hypocrite

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:47:20 No.54143967 Report

Quoted By: >>54143971 >>54143988

>>54143946
>>54143949
i dont care how much you dislike megas, the stupid fucking hats are 20x worse and you're delusional
not even shills think this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:48:23 No.54143971 Report

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>>54143967
Nobody is saying Tera doesn't look ugly. Stop strawmanning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:49:20 No.54143977 Report

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>>54143934
A shit Charizard form is a shit Charizard form no matter what game you're trying to shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:49:51 No.54143981 Report

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>>54143934
SOVL
CHARIZAAAAAAAAARD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:50:18 No.54143984 Report

Quoted By: >>54144486

>>54143866
What do you mean anon, this is so based and makes scarvio the best in the series
You know what every mon needs? a wacky hat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:50:41 No.54143986 Report

Quoted By: >>54143999

>>54143956
You don't have to be here either you realize yet you are. Stop being a slave to the franchise by browsing a Pokemon forum and go read a book instead of pretending you're an authority on what's relevant or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:51:14 No.54143988 Report

Quoted By: >>54143999

>>54143967
I don't like the Tera hats either but you really need to go back to school to learn how to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:53:59 No.54143999 Report

Quoted By: >>54144019 >>54144027

>>54143986
Free time is free time, I'm not the one directly funding more trash. You're mentally ill and I hope you get forcefully castrated so that future scummy companies don't get more loyal supersoldiers to blindly worship them.
>>54143988
>I don't like the Tera hats either
Yeah you do, that's why you still slurp up GF's rancid feces.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:57:05 No.54144019 Report

Quoted By: >>54144026

>>54143999
>Free time is free time, I'm not the one directly funding more trash
Holy cope, they own your brain so hard you spend your free time here talking to me about it and you actually delude yourself into thinking otherwise with these pathetic deflections.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:59:13 No.54144026 Report

Quoted By: >>54144041

>>54144019
You play a game that has this shit in it. lol
Your braindead input is utterly worthless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Jul 2023 23:59:22 No.54144027 Report

Quoted By:

>>54143999
>Yeah you do, that's why you still slurp up GF's rancid feces.
>'I won't accept what you say unless it agrees with what I already think'
Concession accepted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:00:34 No.54144035 Report

Quoted By: >>54144044 >>54144057

People complain about how strong Pokemon got megas but then go and suck off mechanics that apply to every Pokemon equally, as if they aren't exclusively used on the Pokemon that are already strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:01:10 No.54144038 Report

Quoted By: >>54144486

>>54143759
People love hats, OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:02:09 No.54144041 Report

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>>54144026
Yet here you supposedly are talking to someone you think of like that about it because you're too dumb to realize you're Stockholmed into this franchise anyway. It's sad how many mental gymnastics you have to do to pretend you're a special snowflake when you're on this board to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:02:42 No.54144044 Report

Quoted By: >>54144072

>>54144035
This is not true.Tera makes or breaks some Pokémon this generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:05:31 No.54144057 Report

Quoted By: >>54144072

>>54144035
Some Pokemon do have combos they're known for with Tera but that doesn't mean people will always defer to that. You adapt as you play during the battle. That's why it's good any Pokemon can Tera so you're not pigeonholed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:09:52 No.54144072 Report

Quoted By: >>54144094 >>54144132

>>54144044
yeah because volcarona and kingambit and heatran totally wouldnt still be the best pokemon even without tera lol

>>54144057
it just makes the rich get richer. no one is going to suddenly start using mawile or lopunny because of terastallization, when you could just use tera on kingambit or ursaluna and have it be strictly better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:15:39 No.54144094 Report

Quoted By: >>54144103 >>54144109

>>54144072
>it just makes the rich get richer
I think you're mixing things up. You're confusing what's known to be used with what's allowed to be used. With Megas, you were completely locked out of Mega Evolving just anyone obviously. With Tera, you're allowed to Tera with anyone. Being given the option to Tera any one of your favorites is great for players that wish to incorporate their favorites on teams since it ALWAYS elevates their playability thanks to favorable type change + Tera Blast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:17:13 No.54144101 Report

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Terastilation is superior since it isn’t reserved for the privileged few, and since it doesn’t take an item slot, you can potentially change which Pokémon you want to terastilize mid battle provided you haven’t done it yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:17:33 No.54144103 Report

Quoted By: >>54144118

>>54144094
We all know that democracy doesnt work and dictatorship is the only answer so megas are objectively better. Not everyone needs to use their favorites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:20:09 No.54144109 Report

Quoted By: >>54144135

>>54144094
I think you're coming from a singleplayer perspective, I'm talking about PvP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:20:53 No.54144111 Report

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>54144103
>We all know that democracy doesnt work and dictatorship is the only answer so megas are objectively better. Not everyone needs to use their favorites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:22:02 No.54144118 Report

Quoted By: >>54144123

>>54144103
>Not everyone needs to use their favorites.
That's a good way of wording why Tera is better. Tera is favorites-friendly, Mega is 'take what you get'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:22:45 No.54144123 Report

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>>54144118
No its a good way of wording why mega is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:26:19 No.54144131 Report

Quoted By:

Mega Evolution was the first true dexcut since it was subliminally preparing you to only use a handful of Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:26:32 No.54144132 Report

Quoted By:

>>54144072
Volcarona would not have been anywhere near as broken withoutTera, what a horrible example to bring up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:27:03 No.54144135 Report

Quoted By: >>54144142

>>54144109
>I'm talking about PvP
I am too. Any stranglehold on meta diversity isn't due to Tera, just natural meta birth and evolution from the available Pokemon selection. The same can't be said for Mega, which directly contributed to such absurdly centralizing cases as Mega Kangaskhan and Primal Groudon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:28:47 No.54144142 Report

Quoted By: >>54144160 >>54144186

>>54144135
>Mega Kangaskhan
That's my point entirely. Megas buffed shitmons and introduced new Pokemon to PvP that never would have stood a chance otherwise, Tera only buffs the Pokemon that are already good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:30:46 No.54144149 Report

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also worlds 2018 didn't have a single mega with higher usage than flutter mane, urshifu, amogus, or chien-pao in reg d btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:32:38 No.54144160 Report

Quoted By: >>54144167 >>54144172

>>54144142
wrong. Mega only buffed a minuscules handful of shitmons. All the other megas when to shillmons and already good Pokemon. Kangashan only got lucky due to KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOO privilege.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:34:13 No.54144167 Report

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>>54144160
charizard was terrible in pvp before it got megas anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:35:27 No.54144172 Report

Quoted By: >>54144205 >>54144279

>>54144160
and mawile, and charizard, and sableye, and lopunny, and medicham, and altaria, and manectric, and audino, and camerupt, and sharpedo, and

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:38:32 No.54144182 Report

Quoted By: >>54144217

Tera isn't enough to make Sceptile or Gallade even halfway decent in PvP so I know which one I prefer

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:39:58 No.54144186 Report

Quoted By: >>54144206 >>54144213

>>54144142
Sorry anon, I feel like you're dressing up what you're saying in a disingenuous way since 'buffed shitmons' is a disservice to the meta if what you're talking about looks like this anyway. I was there. Tera being able to be triggered on anyone gives way more wiggle room for strategies instead of the cookie cutter meta that Mega led to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:44:21 No.54144205 Report

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>>54144172
>Mega Audino
>good in any capacity

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:44:36 No.54144206 Report

Quoted By: >>54144228 >>54144239

>>54144186
>cherrypicked the year where japan got earthquaked
My ass you were there lmao. Here's the year where players with the same team didn't get to skip qualifiers; you'll notice that no mega has higher usage than any of the top 7 (seven) Pokemon in SV Regulation D

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:46:18 No.54144213 Report

Quoted By:

>>54144186
>Landorus 5/5
I sure am glad they buffed it with Tera

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:46:56 No.54144217 Report

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>>54144182
Gallade is doing pretty good right now. Solid UU and Mega Gallade did make it to OU either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:50:21 No.54144228 Report

Quoted By: >>54144238 >>54144256

>>54144206
>cherrypicked the year where japan got earthquaked
He posted two charts, but I'm sure you have an excuse for why the other one doesn't count either.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:53:10 No.54144238 Report

Quoted By: >>54144256

>>54144228
GS cup formats are a joke with or without Megas, which Xerneas and Groudon aren't regardless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:53:22 No.54144239 Report

Quoted By: >>54144260

>>54144206
I posted two different years. Plus yours is more akin to cherrypicked since yours is in Gen 7/2018, which was after Mega Kangaskhan was literally nerfed to attempt to lead to the results you're bringing up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:56:43 No.54144256 Report

Quoted By: >>54144260 >>54144268 >>54144276

>>54144228
>>54144238
it may surprise you that the problem in that image is smeargle, not the megas or the legendaries
also he cherrypicked italian nats to make vgc look as bad as possible, picrel is worlds that year

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:58:29 No.54144260 Report

Quoted By: >>54144273

>>54144239
no, you cherrypicked a tour with 3x higher kangaskhan usage than worlds of that year lmfao >>54144256

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 00:58:49 No.54144262 Report

Quoted By: >>54144278

>>54143866
Retarded nigger. Watch how you respond to me shitskin. I said Tera had much better gameplay than Reddit Evolution, which anyone who plays the games agrees with, I did not blindly praise Teras for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:01:08 No.54144268 Report

Quoted By: >>54144277

>>54144256
How is smeargle specifically the problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:02:01 No.54144270 Report

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There's nothing more sad and pity-inducing, than an autistic XYgote having a melty Game Freak aren't shilling the games at her generation any longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:02:46 No.54144272 Report

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>>54143759
Functionally superior
Visually inferior

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:02:50 No.54144273 Report

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>>54144260
I never made the claim that they were both Worlds because the point was that it was dominating high level play to begin with, which that tourney literally is. I'm very familiar with Wolfe winning that year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:03:06 No.54144276 Report

Quoted By:

>>54144256
>it may surprise you that the problem in that image is smeargle, not the megas or the legendaries
Smeargle being broken in VGC at the time is besides the point. We're discussing Mega vs Tera in terms of centralization and all the teams had either M-Kanga or M-Sala, and 6/8 had both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:03:32 No.54144277 Report

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>>54144268
it could use dark void in that gen while xerneas got off a free geomancy. coinflip to immediately win on turn 1

it's especially bizarre because dark void smeargle was treated like a legendary and banned from vgc2012 and 2013, they just fuckin forgot about it in gen 6 and then nerfed it in gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:03:47 No.54144278 Report

Quoted By: >>54144316

>>54144262
>calling anyone else a shitskin
>still plays this trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:04:07 No.54144279 Report

Quoted By: >>54144287

>>54144172
None of which I have any reason to use over the more busted megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:04:14 No.54144281 Report

Quoted By: >>54144305

>>54143759
>All of these people unironically defending a mechanic that can swing an entire battle because you didn't guess the 1 out of 18 types correctly
Megas absolutely need a rework but don't lie and pretend teras are somehow better just because "anything can do it". Did you ever consider that's not inherently a good thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:06:00 No.54144287 Report

Quoted By: >>54144293

>>54144279
Mawile was the most-used Mega of 2014 and Charizard was the most used in 2018

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:07:09 No.54144293 Report

Quoted By: >>54144300

>>54144287
And as for the other """"buffed"""" shitmons like camerupt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:09:15 No.54144300 Report

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>>54144293
Camerupt topped multiple regionals early in 2018, it would run Sheer Force nature power and be partnered with Bulu or Koko

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:10:21 No.54144305 Report

Quoted By: >>54144314

>>54144281
You're unironically bad at the game if you're not aware that there are plenty of bad Tera types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:14:21 No.54144314 Report

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>>54144305
This. Even if you can run any of the 18 types, there's always gonna be a handful of ones that are the only likely options outside of very specific niches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 01:15:10 No.54144316 Report

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>>54144278
Yes shitskin. Shitskins are incapable of thinking for themselves shitskin. Shitskins like you need the other shitskins of /vp/ to tell them what to think about pokemon games. I prefer to play the games and think for myself unlike all shitskins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 02:08:08 No.54144486 Report

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>>54143984
>>54144038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 12:38:42 No.54145930 Report

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>>54143759
yes they do

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 13:11:54 No.54146009 Report

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Dynamax>Z-Moves>Megas>Tera

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