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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:37:14 No.54147304 View View Reply Original Report

Honest thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:39:29 No.54147308 Report

Quoted By: >>54149511

the best pokemon games because of the atmosphere, music, and story

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:39:40 No.54147310 Report

Quoted By: >>54151011

>>54147304
our thoughts on them are pretty black and white

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:41:07 No.54147314 Report

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The best nugen games albeitthoughever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:41:51 No.54147318 Report

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>>54147304
outclassed by BW2 unless youre RNGing or want to look at hilda's fat ass through the whole game. or youre really serious about lore and a linear story

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:43:01 No.54147320 Report

Quoted By: >>54147344 >>54147562

>>54147318
>Outclassed by BW2
What makes BW2 better outside of the handful of extra features it adds? I quite liked BW1's featureset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:44:57 No.54147324 Report

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>>54147304
plying through ir right now and i'm enjoying it but i just beat draydon and god he's a disappointing final gym leader. one shot all three of his pokemon with my cryognal. that's right. the final gym leader only has three pokemon! One of them isn't fully evolved and the one that is fully evolved is technically not even a high enough level to be evolved which means he's a dirty cheater. what a joke.

>>54147318
yeah but isn't every game in the series outclassed by their generations "third" version?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:48:57 No.54147341 Report

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>>54147304
Dex is mostly bland or straight up garbage, music is mediocre, story is just there. Boring to play through, these are the only games I haven't ever played more than once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:49:46 No.54147343 Report

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Shit games, can't walk five feet without clashing with a roadblock. The most anime game of them all, I don't give a fuck about the gym leaders, just stay put in your gym and don't bother me anymore, I just wanna explore and have fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:49:52 No.54147344 Report

Quoted By: >>54147355 >>54147544

>>54147320
BW2 doesnt force you to use Shitnova Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:52:15 No.54147353 Report

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>>54147304
It and its sequels are among the best. Too bad redditors latched onto it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:52:57 No.54147355 Report

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>>54147344
Ah, so in other words, the design choice I liked most about BW1 is the thing you hate most of BW1.
Alright. Cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:55:12 No.54147359 Report

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>>54147304
I would've liked them a lot more if the ROMs were pixilated as hell,

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:55:33 No.54147361 Report

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>>54147304
GOAT, superior to the CHINKquels in all aspects except postgame. Can't wait for the troonjeet meltdown when the remakes hit and turn out to be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 20:57:30 No.54147369 Report

Quoted By: >>54147403 >>54148920 >>54149063

>>54147304
Really bad. The story is terrible and there's too much of it, the pokemon are generally lame, the animated sprites look bad (yes even on native hardware), the towns are boring, the extra difficulty modes are pointless, side content is shit, battle music is constantly interrupted with other worse music.

BW added some cool things like triple battles and wild double battles. And they had the right idea with HMs barely being mandatory but still being necessary to explore, but they're not that good still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:01:52 No.54147380 Report

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>>54147304
Japan can’t draw. They can’t animate. They also can’t into colors

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:04:59 No.54147393 Report

Quoted By: >>54151645

>>54147361
>remakes
It is going to be BW3 if current rumors are anything to go by.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:07:19 No.54147403 Report

Quoted By: >>54147415

>>54147369
>filtered by Victory Lies before You and Hang on!
Opinion discarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:09:09 No.54147414 Report

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>>54147304
Killed the franchise, unironically. No one took it seriously ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:09:36 No.54147415 Report

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>>54147403
I don't know the names of this shit, I just know it's not good to replace decent originals over and over again with the same remix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:12:57 No.54147424 Report

Quoted By: >>54148914

>>54147304
I used to like it. I've fallen out of love with it. The Unova dex actually is pretty awful. The first hour or two of BW is miserable with all the patrats and lillipups and purrloins. Genwunners were not wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:15:25 No.54147435 Report

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>>54147304
Shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:36:57 No.54147519 Report

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Misunderstood masterpiece.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:41:45 No.54147532 Report

Quoted By: >>54147576 >>54147639

>graphically a step down from the crisp sprites of the prior generation
>storyline considered 'deep' and 'thought-provoking' by children at a third-grade reading level (at best)
>wasn't good enough to merit a 'definitive edition' like crystal or ultra sun/moon but some suckers still paid for the same game twice
>introduced more uninspired and gimmick Pokémon than any generation before or after
>memorable NPCs few and far between; can anybody even name the gym leaders or elite four members?
>on the whole - a mediocre dumpster fire
pic unrelated because i'm not wasting precious hard drive space on a .jpg of the garbage that was Black & White

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:45:37 No.54147544 Report

Quoted By: >>54147565 >>54147568 >>54147582 >>54147587 >>54148844

>>54147344
I don't understand this logic. Why would you want to play a new Pokemon game if you don't like the new Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:48:18 No.54147562 Report

Quoted By: >>54149030 >>54158793

>>54147320
>I quite liked BW1's featureset.
BW2 has everything from BW, and adds more on top of it. in terms of gameplay it's a straight upgrade unless you really like Musharna or Seismitoad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:48:45 No.54147565 Report

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>>54147544
i have a friend who still uses lucario and charizard every chance he gets. i get that they are his favorites but you'd think he'd get bored of using the same Pokémon over and over again and would want to try something new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:49:49 No.54147568 Report

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>>54147544
he's shitposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:52:51 No.54147576 Report

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>>54147532
Getting a sequel is worse than not getting a definitive addition?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:53:38 No.54147579 Report

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I feel they're somewhat redundant to replay when we have BW2.
For me it's like replaying FRLG or something, there are only so many teams you can make without repeating mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:54:04 No.54147582 Report

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>>54147544
Not everyone replays every game 50 times. Lots of pokemon are basically brand new to people after the generation they debuted in is over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 21:55:38 No.54147587 Report

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>>54147544
There are still a handful of Gen 1 Pokemon I haven't used despite stsrting with Blue, so thise are new to me in effect. Not that it bothers me in BW or is not something I cant just easily get around when emulating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 22:14:01 No.54147639 Report

Quoted By: >>54147643

>>54147532
>kalosfag enters gen 5 thread and starts shitting on gen 5 completely unprovoked
Every. Single. Time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 22:16:36 No.54147643 Report

Quoted By: >>54147660

>>54147639
>thread asking for thoughts on game
>poster gives his thoughts on game
>”Y-YOU DID IT UNPROVOKED!!!”

You are an absolute retard. But you defend Gen 5 so I guess that checks out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Jul 2023 22:20:57 No.54147660 Report

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>>54147643
I don't care if you call it a shitty game but you go out of your way to shill XY in a post you probably thought was clever, in order to bait a genwar when this thread is strictly about gen 5. Can you read? And I never even said I defended gen 5 for that matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:15:18 No.54148832 Report

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>>54147304
The sprites are so bad they make it unplayable for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:19:25 No.54148844 Report

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>>54147544
so I can play new content with pokemon i do like. duh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:38:48 No.54148909 Report

Quoted By: >>54148912 >>54149040

>>54147304
BW was the beginning of the end of Pokemon and did irreparable damage to the series, yet even so it was indicative of the developers losing the plot and in retrospect it was clear that they would never be capable of making a great Pokemon game again.

Everything wrong with nu-Pokemon can be traced back to Black/White. They are not the worst games in the series but the first severe disappointment and the last generation which anyone would seriously claim to be a fan of---which is why it gets more vitriol than ORAS, SM, etc., because nobody takes those seriously in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:40:07 No.54148912 Report

Quoted By: >>54148922

>>54148909
>Everything wrong with nu-Pokemon can be traced back to Ruby/Sapphire
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:40:41 No.54148914 Report

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>>54147424
It was never "genwunners" that's always been a boogeyman. The vast majority of people across generational fanbases disliked BW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:41:58 No.54148920 Report

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>>54147369
most all of this except difficulty modes aren't in BW

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:43:02 No.54148922 Report

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>>54148912
very few people actually think that, really only just a swath of johtoddlers and a segment of genwunners perhaps

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:43:33 No.54148925 Report

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They were the peak of 2D Pokémon games and are about to be the peak of 3D Pokémon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:44:10 No.54148927 Report

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Peak

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:46:24 No.54148936 Report

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>>54148922
>story focused on legendaries
>friendly rivals
>cutting features
>EVs, IVs, and Natures
>making old pokemon unobtainable
>more linear regions
>overabundance of legendaries
>HM spam
it all starts with gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:53:36 No.54148968 Report

Quoted By: >>54148977 >>54149044

>>54148936
>story focused on legendaries
not a problem
>friendly rivals
not a problem
>cutting features
requires elaboration
>EVs, IVs, and Natures
fixed the game
>making old pokemon unobtainable
was rectified by gen's end
>more linear regions
misleading and irrelevant
>overabundance of legendaries
false
>HM spam
GSC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:56:12 No.54148977 Report

Quoted By: >>54148988

>>54148968
>>story focused on legendaries
>not a problem
>>friendly rivals
>not a problem
so BW are good games then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 03:58:24 No.54148988 Report

Quoted By: >>54148996

>>54148977
if you think this is the equation then you do not at all comprehend the complaints about Black/White

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:00:10 No.54148996 Report

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>>54148988
i comprehend that they're mostly bullshit

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:06:27 No.54149019 Report

Quoted By: >>54149030 >>54149046 >>54152296

>>54147304
Criminally underrated games
>Completely Fresh dex (some questionable designs to be fair) made every new route feel like your first time playing
>Great story, back to the basics of “evil guy wants power” after two games of “evil team wants to destroy the entire world”
>Story is also targeted towards an older audience with 15yr old protags and themes of truth vs ideology
>Great soundtrack
>Nice variety of routes, though backtracking did occur
>Massively cut down on the HM slog of Gen 4, utilising HMs like strength and Surf to block off hidden areas to encourage later exploration.
>Moving Sprites, though controversial to some, made battles feel alive in a way they never had on handheld games.
>Battle subway was fun
Thing about B/W is they are either loved or hated, there is rarely any neutral sentiment.
The reasons listed above are either positive or negatives and it’s all about the individuals preferences

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:09:46 No.54149030 Report

Quoted By: >>54149416 >>54149465

>>54147562
Palpitoad is one of my top 5 favorite Pokemon so...
Also, it doesn't have ALL of them, though I'm stretching the definition a bit. I'm calling no-oldgen Pokemon before Nat. Dex a feature, and I really liked that one. The idea of having to start over and then later having my doors opened was really nice.

>>54149019
I agree, though, I'd like to add:
>some questionable designs to be fair
It's not like the original 151 were all hitters either though. EVERY generation has roughly the same ratio of bad designs, it's just that Gen 5 has enough new ones to make it very noticeable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:12:56 No.54149040 Report

Quoted By: >>54149108

>>54148909
>the first severe disappointment and the last generation which anyone would seriously claim to be a fan of---which is why it gets more vitriol than ORAS, SM, etc., because nobody takes those seriously in the first place.
Interesting point, can you elaborate? Do you mean to say that no one really shits on later games such as XY or SM too hard because most people simply recognize those games as bad regardless, whereas BW people see it as 50/50?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:14:12 No.54149044 Report

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>>54148968
Okay, and... what your set of problems with Gen 5? Because these are the most common complaints of Gen 5, outside of "bad designs!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:14:28 No.54149046 Report

Quoted By: >>54149416

>>54149019
>Thing about B/W is they are either loved or hated, there is rarely any neutral sentiment
Holy shit so they are polar opposites... just like the colors black and white. BRAVO MASUDA!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:19:19 No.54149063 Report

Quoted By: >>54151530 >>54151548

>>54147369
>>>>the towns are boring
>most unique towns ever
>first time the series used a unique music for each town
>gyms are integrated in their environment instead of just being a copypasted building
Didn't bother to read the rest. Everyone knows it's the routes that are boring in BW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:35:47 No.54149108 Report

Quoted By: >>54149499

>>54149040
exactly
nobody who isn't a casual is ever going to put those games at the top in a tier list

kun

kun Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:43:43 No.54149123 Report

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I didn't play It much cuz I suck at the old games but at least my favorite games came out of It.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 04:44:09 No.54149125 Report

Quoted By: >>54151632

Probably the second most disappointing mainline game for me. It's not explicitly bad, but it's just sort of underwhelming and bland. I get sick of being stopped for so many little things at random moments, the distribution kind of sucks because of both atrocious evolution levels and how they loaded most of the powerhouses around the middle of the game. The gimmicks felt like they were running out of ideas and it was the first time I didn't even bother with whatever battle facility it had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 06:09:59 No.54149416 Report

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>>54149030
I’d agree with that sentiment, purely on numbers it has more bad designs but as a percentage of the dex it isn’t overwhelming.
Worth mentioning that it has some of the best designs in the series too, and arguably some of the best shinies (Garbador, Haxorus, Stunfisk, Emboar, Gigalith)
>>54149046
>Bravo Masuda
Heartfully kekked at that one

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 06:28:28 No.54149465 Report

Quoted By: >>54149499

>>54149030
All original 151 are top tier Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 06:29:17 No.54149470 Report

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>>54147304
good region.
good music.
one of the worst dexes ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 06:37:53 No.54149499 Report

Quoted By: >>54151625

>>54149108
I'm a power user at worst, and I'd put it up there at the top. Fuck you.

>>54149465
Poliwag and Lickitung.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 06:40:36 No.54149511 Report

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>>54147308
>worst

Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 06:50:15 No.54149540 Report

Quoted By: >>54150998 >>54151222 >>54151333 >>54154181

>>54147304
Seems like it was made to avoid all things everyone hates about Johto but pokefans are such fickle retards so no one appreciated it.
>”johto dex is too small”
Unova has the most Pokémon introduced of any generation .
>”johto is nothing but evolutions to KANTOO and worthless babies. Johto leans on KANTOOOOO”
Unova is completely independent from KANTOOOOO
>”johto pokemon don’t even show up!”
Only unova Pokémon
>”no one uses johto pokemon”
Gym leaders only use unova Pokémon
>”johto pokemon are worthless shitmons”
Everything is Unova is minmaxed or stronger than KANTOOOOOO
>”no story” “team Rocket is lame”
In-depth story, team plasma is everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 16:29:12 No.54150998 Report

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>>54149540
Yet most of the fandom who likes one likes the other. How did this happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 16:32:49 No.54151011 Report

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>>54147310
its not always black and white.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 17:23:23 No.54151215 Report

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Very good games with the best story in the series plus a very cozy post game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 17:25:02 No.54151222 Report

Quoted By: >>54151240

>>54149540
This is why I suspect all the retarded Johto haters who whine about retarded shit like “muh pokemon distribution” are actually Unovafags. The two have practically complete opposite design philosophies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 17:28:43 No.54151240 Report

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>>54151222
yeah, one design philosophy is good and the other is shit

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 17:30:12 No.54151248 Report

Quoted By: >>54151387 >>54152033

>>54151240
true

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 17:42:42 No.54151286 Report

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>>54147304
Great games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 17:57:10 No.54151333 Report

Quoted By: >>54151414

>>54149540
Almost as if the people who complain about Johto are a dumbass minority who probably grew up on Unova.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:02:58 No.54151349 Report

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>>54147304
Rushed and unfinished

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:14:28 No.54151387 Report

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>>54151248
GSC are better sequels but BW2 are better games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:21:18 No.54151411 Report

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>>54147304
One of the best games to evoke the feeling of playing the first pokemon games again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:22:03 No.54151414 Report

Quoted By: >>54151453 >>54151617

>>54151333
This is extra strange if you take a step back and realize that the very same would've likely also have grown up on HGSS.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:23:43 No.54151419 Report

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>>54147304
Zekrom is cute!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:31:30 No.54151453 Report

Quoted By: >>54151467

>>54151414
almost as if it's a bullshit claim and anon is just coping

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:36:20 No.54151467 Report

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>>54151453
Well, I'm not doubting there isn't a small group of kids who were into Pokémon Black as their first game and never enjoyed HGSS. Maybe they were too poor to afford the game, maybe they just never noticed the game right next to it on the shelf, or maybe they just didnt like how slow it was given its a Gen 4 game.
However, given those games are 6~ months apart in release in the US, it's very likely any kid looking for more Pokémon after White would've most likely have turned to HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:53:34 No.54151530 Report

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>>54149063
>unique makes it good and interesting
No.
>gyms are integrated in their environment instead of just being a copypasted building
This is cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 18:59:07 No.54151548 Report

Quoted By: >>54151612

>>54149063
>>most unique towns ever
That would be Hoenn. Unova's towns are pretty fucking boring. Fuck I think even Kalos has more interesting towns than Unova.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 19:14:58 No.54151612 Report

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>>54151548
Hoenn is just the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 19:16:29 No.54151617 Report

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>>54151414
because it's the latest johtoddler schizo headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 19:17:54 No.54151625 Report

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>>54149499
more like a retard who apparently didn't understand the post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 19:18:58 No.54151632 Report

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>>54149125
BW is explicitly, explicably bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 19:22:46 No.54151645 Report

Quoted By: >>54151699

>>54147393
I'm sure it's all bullshit, but what are the rumors?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 19:35:08 No.54151699 Report

Quoted By: >>54151873

>>54151645
NTA, but I assume that due to the successive nature of Gen 5, they'll make another sequel rather than remakes. The thinking is that they'd have to remake 2 different games if they tried to remake Gen 5, or leave it incomplete, so a sequel is easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 20:18:56 No.54151873 Report

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>>54151699
It would make sense. It would probably be set up in the same way Let's Go was, with a bunch of cameos by everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 20:59:36 No.54152033 Report

Quoted By: >>54152044 >>54152047

>>54151248
those are not the same people, schizo. their fans tend to overlap, and if you can't see that you either need more time interacting with other humans, or a new prescription

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:01:31 No.54152044 Report

Quoted By: >>54156140

>>54152033
>their fans tend to overlap
no just plenty of unovaborts defend HGSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:01:47 No.54152047 Report

Quoted By: >>54156140

>>54152033
>their fans tend to overlap
unovafags are really still trying to put their game with good ones, kek

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:02:54 No.54152052 Report

Quoted By: >>54152054

>>54147304
Last good games other than legends arceus

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:03:47 No.54152054 Report

Quoted By: >>54152061

>>54152052
>popularity retard is still alive
Very sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:05:04 No.54152061 Report

Quoted By: >>54152077

>>54152054
>discord retards are still alive
Unfortunate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:09:16 No.54152077 Report

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>>54152061
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post but yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:15:14 No.54152095 Report

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>>54147304
Games went downhill right there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:34:51 No.54152170 Report

Quoted By: >>54152204

>>54147304
if they ever remake these games, I hope they make it much less linear and make the dialogs skip-able

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:42:19 No.54152204 Report

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>>54152170
Define non-linear.
Also, yeah no, never happening in a Gamefreak game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 21:58:14 No.54152285 Report

Quoted By: >>54152358

>>54147304
Allowed me to drop the franchise until Legends Arceus, it left me satisfied.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 22:02:29 No.54152296 Report

Quoted By: >>54152306 >>54152370

>>54149019
>Criminally underrated games
That hasn't been true for a long time. People nowadays constantly fellate Gen 5 while shitting on newer games for the same problems that BW had such as many unskippable cutscenes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 22:04:08 No.54152306 Report

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>>54152296
i can at least mash a through gen 5's cutscenes without having to sit through slow, lame attempts at animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 22:15:29 No.54152340 Report

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Before the first gym is kind of overly restrictive for tutorials both blatant and "natural", when Gen 7 of all games had a more natural way to teach type matchups that it barely used. After that though it's mostly a solid linear JRPG with some little bits of exploration until it really opens up with Surf. It's not the most difficult game, but it's certainly not the easiest either. Reasonable postgame content for a first version, overall decent aesthetic choices, writing that's shockingly decent for Pokemon standards, and a refreshing but fairly balanced Pokedex are all more subjective things that I think it does mostly fine. The only major issues on a core design level are related to multiplayer and online, attaching too much stuff to the Dream World doesn't help the game's long term usability, and whatever the fuck they tried to do with Black City/White Forest probably barely worked for the Japanese and definitely didn't work for anyone outside of Japan. I like it, and it might be my favorite first version, but that's only because HGSS mogs my nostalgia choice and I fucking hate RS's overworld sprites and the music isn't my taste despite objectively having the better main campaign. It's just solid though, which means if anything about the game really gets your autism up in a dander you're probably going to hate it because it doesn't do much to make up for it.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 22:20:36 No.54152358 Report

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>>54152285
>BW made you quit playing Pokemon
sounds about right

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Anonymous Thu 27 Jul 2023 22:21:40 No.54152370 Report

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>>54152296
>People
Zoomers

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 05:38:45 No.54153975 Report

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>>54147304
ugly dysgenic garbage that killed the series

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 07:20:12 No.54154181 Report

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>>54149540
Strangely enough, Johto and Unova are my 2 favourite regions.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 10:53:53 No.54154624 Report

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It was by then the worst games since Ruby/Sapphire and it did even more things wrong than that.

A shitty linear region with less secrets, less split ups, less optional areas and linear path. Pretty much was gym -> route -> do some shit next town -> gym for the whole gamw. Uninspired routes, only ten until the league, less puzzles because no HM.

The only new Pokemon bullshit was dumb either. For me the mix between old and new Pokemon was pretty awesome by directly comparing them via battles. If you want to play with only new Pokemon then fine but dont force other players with that stupid dexcut to a laughable amount of Pokemon. The variaty sucks and even worse a lot of the gen 5 Pokemon evolve super late so its even more restricted.

Story was fine. But that pacing and story telling was bad. Text, text and more text. Its not a SM cutscene hell but it still abrupts the flow of the game sometimes. And I am not necessarily a fan of the characters. Ghetsis was ok but his ninjas barely had a role, the seven sages were also a waste. Bianca's was to quick and left no impact, Cherens was just the usual "I want to get stronger" character arc.

The missing features were also noticeable. Rip to the Contest and hello boring musicals. No VS seeker, the typical themed Battle Tower clones, no gym leader rematches, no radio/calling people because the caster was only used by like four scripted events.

Then all that other nonsense like gym leader only having three Pokemon, E4 members only having four. People shit on XY for that despite BW starting this crap.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 11:14:28 No.54154676 Report

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> really liked the restricted dex, some people hated It but I think it gives this game and unique feeling, new pokemon designs were a hit or miss
> impressively good music and ambiance
> cool character designs and story
> the animated sprites in battle that were the natural evolution for pokemon in the DS
> really nice world map design full of side paths and secrets, solved the HM problem that old gens had using them just to open optional paths
> big post game with a lot of new places to explore, gaining access to the old pokemon felt like a big reward

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 11:19:55 No.54154694 Report

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>>54147304
Played gens 1, 2, and 5. Coming back into pokemons with black and white was fun. I didn't bother even considering black and white 2 because their concept felt retarded.
The massive amount of simulated battles I had over showdown and etc. with probably technically incorrect dreamworld pokemon was fun as shit though. I loved my triple weather team and my stronk no think teams, and my friend's rain team was fun as shit to watch with his inner flinch hurricane superpower dragonite that rekt ditto revenge killers.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 11:43:42 No.54154759 Report

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>>54147304
they were boring
this was the point the franchise abandoned the original games' ethos and started making story & character centric games

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 18:15:20 No.54156056 Report

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>>54154624
>the typical themed Battle Tower clones
What? The Battle Institute and Battle Subways fulfilled that role.
>no radio/calling people because the caster was only used by like four scripted events
They chose to make it a multiplayer thing, which, while cool, was... ehhhhhhhhhh...

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 18:36:21 No.54156120 Report

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I want to fuck N.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Jul 2023 18:42:56 No.54156140 Report

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>>54152044
>>54152047
thanks for outing yourself as retarded

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 03:28:06 No.54158223 Report

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>>54156140
nah that's you

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 03:28:11 No.54158224 Report

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boring and slog first time playing, amazing in retrospect

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 03:32:20 No.54158240 Report

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>>54158224
amazing how shit it was right

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 03:37:08 No.54158260 Report

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If they really wanted the dark and serious turn for the series they w re hoping for with bw/b2w2, they should've just killed off a heroic and beloved character for good, like Cynthia

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 03:37:12 No.54158261 Report

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>>54147304
Peak Masuda. He got too tired after

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 05:31:37 No.54158630 Report

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>>54147304
Ghetsis, Kyurem and Hydreigon are cool, okay story for a digimon game and the changing seasons was a neat gimmick I guess.
I didn't like how fucking long it took to EV train anything in it, and playing it again now makes you appreciate the modern QoL changes.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 06:31:04 No.54158751 Report

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>>54147304
>BW1
Honestly meh, while its my most played Pokemon game, I barely remember the story much. There also isn't much to do postgame apart from east Unova and the Battle Subway.

>BW2
Actually excellent, while it still has issues such as the fucking assanine key system locking away difficulty, theres so much quality content such as PWT, Join Avenue, side quests like Yancy/Curtis, etc.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 06:52:02 No.54158793 Report

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>>54147562
>BW2 has everything from BW
Except for a good story.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Jul 2023 11:18:25 No.54159322 Report

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>>54147304
The best mainline games still now, tied with BW2

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