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VGC hacking

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:03:58 No.54188716 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54188729 >>54188869 >>54188963 >>54192016 >>54193903 >>54195383

If everyone hacks in VGC, and top players have been caught using hacked Pokémon, why hasn’t anyone been disqualified? And they do hack checks at events so surely they have had to caught someone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:05:46 No.54188722 Report

Quoted By: >>54191965 >>54195940

it doesn't give an advantage or affect performance so tpc doesn't really care

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:06:45 No.54188729 Report

Quoted By: >>54190446 >>54190591 >>54193953 >>54195797

>>54188716
They randomly take anyones switch and check it psychically. Most VGC players just use trade bots, have other people hack them and trade it to them if they choose to hack. No one is pulling up to a regional with a jailbroken switch.
t. qualified for worlds this year and went to multiple events this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:07:52 No.54188737 Report

Quoted By: >>54188768 >>54188829

They're not cheating by official standards. The autist that makes the hack program just gets angry that people use his program. Other autists fake outrage as well because they think they somehow would beat wolfey if he didn't use it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:14:39 No.54188768 Report

Quoted By: >>54188819 >>54188876 >>54189129

>>54188737
i really dont get why he still updates the hack program if he doesnt like people hacking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:24:45 No.54188819 Report

Quoted By: >>54188831 >>54189129 >>54189201

>>54188768
>THIS SUMMER
>pokerap muffled in the background
>ONE POKEMON ENTHUSIAST
>IS ABOUT TO PUT A PK-HEX
>ON THE COMPETITIVE WORLD
>my... le pokemon hacking program...
>it... hacked pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:26:12 No.54188829 Report

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>>54188737
I don't understand why people read those posts as 'angry'. They're a cool breakdown of how people who gen mons miss indicators that would tip off in a deep dive. Things few think of like weight and personality values. It's never "can you believe this?! the nerve of people to use this program I am constantly developing and releasing for free!".

Anyway, for OP's question: nothing good would come of acknowledging the widespread hacking. So they don't say anything unless they are Koreans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:26:21 No.54188831 Report

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>>54188819
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:33:13 No.54188869 Report

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>>54188716
TPC doesn't care, that's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:34:33 No.54188876 Report

Quoted By: >>54188894 >>54189103 >>54190461

>>54188768
>make a cool program used by millions
>tell people its ok to hack in 99% of circumstances
>it's only not ok when you're entering official tournaments because he could be forced to take down the program
>retards do it anyway
>retards get angry and start crying when they're called out
This is why everyone makes fun of vgc players

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:37:42 No.54188894 Report

Quoted By: >>54188916

>>54188876
there is no point to hacking if youre not going to use them in competitive play

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:41:14 No.54188916 Report

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>>54188894
There are plenty of reasons. Also, if vgc players weren't braindead retarded and learned how to use a incredibly basic program there would be 0% chance of them being caught

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 01:51:24 No.54188963 Report

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>>54188716
TPCI's hack checks only care about stuff that affects gameplay, like impossible stats or moves.
The only tell a mon is hacked would be an illegal ball (Gen 9 mon in a Safari Ball, for example) but that has the plausible deniability of being bred from a parent you didn't know was hacked. They're not going to DQ you for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 02:29:10 No.54189103 Report

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>>54188876
>it's only not ok when you're entering official tournaments because he could be forced to take down the program
Do you know how retarded you sound?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 02:36:09 No.54189129 Report

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>>54188768
>>54188819

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 02:39:38 No.54189137 Report

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I hacked in everything to breed a legit shiny Primarina for competitive.
She is legit but everything used to create her was hacked: the perfect IV foreign Ditto dad, the HA mom with custom ball, the held items like Shiny charm, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 02:59:04 No.54189201 Report

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>>54188819
>well i wouldn't exactly call it HACKING.
>awkward silence as several shiny flutter manes duke it out, a porygon2 in a beast ball is also sent out
https://youtu.be/xMk8wuw7nek?t=182
>GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL, POK-E-MON!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 03:20:15 No.54189308 Report

Quoted By: >>54190473

the hack checks are just to make sure the pokemon don't have some fucked up game genie bullshit going on and are running 999 in all stats or moves they have no access to
pokemon has a lot of mechanics going on in it and i doubt the minimum wage judges they hire give a fuck enough to keep up with autism like that so they made a program that loosely checks if a pokemon is achievable in game and ignores anything that doesn't effect gameplay (such as ball type)
someone could get false banned for having a pokemon in some shit ball it wasn't supposed to be in but turn out to be completely legit they just used 5 different trades/breeding across games with some retarded glitch and never actually hacked anything. there's written law and then there's acting law and there's common law, where it's just the law that was written being interpreted and applied. the same goes for pokemon, only an insane autist would genuinely give a shit about the rules not being followed to a standard where the rule itself becomes more of a detriment than a positive for the community. this can all be argued without mentioning retarded shit like "grinding the game" or forming a team since trading makes an automatic shortcut to all of it outside of obtaining 8 badges or whatever gatekeeper shit the modern gens have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 07:09:07 No.54189944 Report

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as long as you arent running hydro pump charizard they dont care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 11:22:49 No.54190446 Report

Quoted By: >>54194562 >>54195787

>>54188729
How did you beat the huge influx of players that started playing at a compotent level? I used to play at a 1600 elo level on showdown in oras but now find myself often stuck at the 1200-1300 range. Also how do you handle all that travel? Surley plane tickets' and hotel costs add up. Im getting old, and so all of the friends who used to travel and play are now unable to even for the ones 3 states away. Id love to go again but if it takes me rooming with 3 random 19 year olds thats unfortunate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 11:27:20 No.54190461 Report

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>>54188876
>cant comprehend difference between hacking a perfect 5IV Flutter Mane to a Groudon hatched from an egg on route 1
Nobody to blame but yourself. You just gotta be that snowflake and have your special snowflake pokemon in a cherish ball, don't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 11:30:09 No.54190473 Report

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>>54189308
>i doubt the minimum wage judges
They do it for free, dont they? But even then imagine saying the same for a Wizards of the Coast-sponsored Magic event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 12:17:43 No.54190591 Report

Quoted By: >>54191930

>>54188729
Or if they do hack directly, they just trade it to a legit console.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 16:51:18 No.54191930 Report

Quoted By: >>54195718

>>54190591
I would say
>imagine buying 2 consoles to do just that
But I see so many people with 2 switches just for pokemon so I believe it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 16:57:13 No.54191965 Report

Quoted By: >>54191992 >>54194098 >>54195791

>>54188722
when you hack you gain a time advantage over the player who had to breed and train their mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 17:01:53 No.54191992 Report

Quoted By: >>54192038

>>54191965
So would letting a friend doing the breeding and training for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 17:05:40 No.54192016 Report

Quoted By: >>54192055

>>54188716
For the most part, hack checks are no better than what Pokemon HOME uses. Even if you run a 6IV legendary from another game with no HOME tracker and the default trainer ID they just don't have the capability of telling. The hack checks aren't done with PKHex. So long as it is a legal pokemon they don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 17:10:19 No.54192038 Report

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>>54191992
Yes and no. Learning which niche egg moves a mon gets through breeding can be useful during a battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 17:13:07 No.54192055 Report

Quoted By: >>54192233 >>54192250

>>54192016
"Legal" pokemon aren't legitimate if they were hacked in. You can totally be banned if you use Pokemon that weren't obtained legitimately

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 17:45:55 No.54192233 Report

Quoted By: >>54192298

>>54192055
This, were putting the cart before the horse. They use things like OT data and balls for the sake of telling genned from genuine, but if you yold someone your pokemon was hacked and it looks 100% legitimate in every way you would still be banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 17:49:59 No.54192250 Report

Quoted By: >>54192276

>>54192055
Legal is the term for pokemon that, aside from being genned, have stats, moves, met data etc. that can be obtained in the game. As you stated, people use "legitimate" for mons that were caught or bred.
All legitimate pokemon are legal, not all legal pokemon are legitimate.
But that wasn't the point of my post. Genned pokemon that are "legal" are virtually indistinguishable from legitimate pokemon. We only have conjecture that they are not legit whe. It's something like a 6IV mon with an Origin of a Gen8+ game or things like trainerID 12345/993401, website OT names, etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 17:54:16 No.54192276 Report

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>>54192250
When I say virtually indistinguishable, I mean in ways that TPC and tournaments can tell. They essentially use Pokemon HOME-level checks. Not Pkhex, which is what Kaphotics uses to out most hacked VGC teams.
Source: I Gen my own teams for VGC, but have an IQ higher than room temperature so I don't do stupid shit like Pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 17:58:10 No.54192298 Report

Quoted By: >>54195931

>>54192233
OT is surprisingly common, but there are tons of methods to check now. Most common are 6IV/5IV 0atk unbreedable mons from game origins with zero RNG manipulation (Swsh+), fucked up memories, 508IVs from copy-paste work (instead of 510 from errant extras), shiny pokemon with no legitimate shiny release, and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 23:35:37 No.54193903 Report

Quoted By: >>54193923

>>54188716
hi verlisify

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 23:38:14 No.54193923 Report

Quoted By:

>>54193903
seek therapy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Aug 2023 23:46:44 No.54193953 Report

Quoted By:

>>54188729
jesus they have people with psychic powers checking the switches and not even them can detect the cheaters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 00:26:38 No.54194098 Report

Quoted By:

>>54191965
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 01:59:53 No.54194562 Report

Quoted By: >>54195787

>>54190446
>huge influx of players that started playing at a compotent level
which year would you say this started?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 04:32:14 No.54195383 Report

Quoted By: >>54195634

>>54188716
properly hacked Pokémon are indistinguishable from normal ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 05:41:14 No.54195634 Report

Quoted By: >>54195664

>>54195383
Tautological statement aside, do you really think your average VGC cheater knows enough about Pokémon legality to generate "properly"? They're not getting DQ'd because they have indistinguishable hacks, they're just not being caught because TPC & TO's don't care/don't know any better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 05:51:35 No.54195664 Report

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>>54195634
if you knew about generating pokemon using tools you'd know it's not that hard, the tools themselves tell you how to do it, and even point out flaws and how to fix them.

It's not rocket science and once you have one making several copies of that same pokemon with that same build to share with your circle of friends is as as easy as clicking a button.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 06:10:42 No.54195718 Report

Quoted By: >>54195852 >>54195979

>>54191930
You don't even need two hacked Switches, Ryujinx can trade a legit console if I remember right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 06:47:50 No.54195787 Report

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>>54190446
>How did you beat the huge influx of players that started playing at a compotent level?
all you need to do is practice and learn certain matchups and you'll be fine. its a skill most people with a room iq temp can do.
>>54194562
2 players won an entire regional on their 1st ever event, hell the same dude who won his 1st won his 2nd ever regional. VGC is mainstream now, with people like Cybertron and Wolfey everyones testing their skill and out of those people few are bound to make an intimidate impact. i know a guy who started playing VGC last month and he broke top 500 on ladder at his peak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 06:51:04 No.54195791 Report

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>>54191965
I highly, highly doubt a random smhmuck who bred their single team would even be good enough to qualify for their regional, let alone the international championship.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 06:53:30 No.54195797 Report

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>>54188729
>check it psychically

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 07:29:30 No.54195852 Report

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>>54195718
This. I trade my hacked switch to my legit one all the time. Local trades don't require you to phone home to Nintendo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 08:08:30 No.54195931 Report

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>>54192298
>fucked up memories
I've heard this before, what exactly are even "fucked up memories?"

Is that somehow different or the same to "game origin is impossible for this mon?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 08:12:55 No.54195940 Report

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>>54188722
>it doesn't give an advantage
retard spotted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 08:19:26 No.54195953 Report

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>It’s another bunch of faggots defend cheating in a children's game thread

PkHex means you didn’t play the game properly. Anything else is cope. I have spoken.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 08:34:35 No.54195979 Report

Quoted By: >>54195991

>>54195718
>ryujinx can trade to a legit console
wait, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Aug 2023 08:41:52 No.54195991 Report

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>>54195979
https://github.com/Ryujinx/Ryujinx/wiki/Multiplayer-(LDN-Local-Wireless)-Guide#pokémon-sword-and-pokémon-shield-lan-mode
https://github.com/Ryujinx/Ryujinx/wiki/Multiplayer-(LDN-Local-Wireless)-Guide#pok%C3%A9mon-legends-arceus
https://github.com/Ryujinx/Ryujinx/wiki/Multiplayer-(LDN-Local-Wireless)-Guide#pok%C3%A9mon-brilliant-diamond-and-shining-pearl
https://github.com/Ryujinx/Ryujinx/wiki/Multiplayer-(LDN-Local-Wireless)-Guide#pok%C3%A9mon-scarlet-and-violet

You use LAN and it works just fine. This is why there's so many hacked Koraidons and Miraidons floating around.

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