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Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 20:52:38 No.54241303 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54242236 >>54242965 >>54245193 >>54245220 >>54247689

This is getting ridiculous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 20:54:03 No.54241312 Report

Quoted By: >>54242057

>What they expect

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 20:55:15 No.54241324 Report

Quoted By: >>54241406 >>54241452 >>54241465 >>54241480 >>54242086

I haven’t played comp since XY but isn’t it even easier to make a perfect pokemon now than it was then? I remember back then Gamefreak had already streamlined it to the point you could shit out and fully EV train a 5IV mon with your desired nature in under 20 mins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 21:05:26 No.54241406 Report

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>>54241324
That's not true

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 21:10:50 No.54241452 Report

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>>54241324
that is true

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 21:12:40 No.54241465 Report

Quoted By: >>54247947

>>54241324
With some very small exceptions, it's easier than it has ever been. The only standing arguments are for specific Pokemon like Landorus and Cresselia that take quite a while to reach from any new save of a game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 21:14:45 No.54241480 Report

Quoted By: >>54241689 >>54242049 >>54242162

>>54241324
It's easier except for the legendaries you have to use Home to get in the game, which conveniently enough are the top mons at the moment
I think the absolute worst case is wanting to use Enamorus-Therian on a Trick Room team since you need to play through the entirety of PLA for a single chance at getting one with a low Speed IV

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 21:41:02 No.54241689 Report

Quoted By: >>54241875

>>54241480
rusted bottle caps when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 21:42:44 No.54241703 Report

Quoted By: >>54241814

>everything has to be about money
I hate Am*rica so much it's unreal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 21:56:50 No.54241814 Report

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>>54241703
I hate the Jews as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:05:12 No.54241875 Report

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>>54241689
Realistically, next gen. They've been moving in the direction of convenience for IVs since 3rd gen. Gen 7 they added hyper training and for the first time you could change an existing Pokemon's IV. In Gen 8 they added nature mints. In gen 9 they made hyper training only require level 50. Considering at this point the only reason left to inject is 0IVs, a Rusted Bottle Cap is inevitable. Alternatively they could just have all IVs set to 31 in pvp, the way all levels are set to 50. It would take some of the depth and complexity out of the game, but it'd also be a very easy solution to implement.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:26:52 No.54242049 Report

Quoted By: >>54242065 >>54242090 >>54242260 >>54242730 >>54247746

>>54241480
This only applies to Urshifu. Cresselia and Enamorus are not top meta, at least not yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:27:27 No.54242057 Report

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>>54241312
me grinding pokéblocks when the blend master is at lilycove city

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:28:58 No.54242065 Report

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>>54242049
I really hate errshitjew

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:32:39 No.54242086 Report

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>>54241324
People's current complain is not about perfect IVs but 0 IVs, people want their legendaries to have 0 IVs in attack or speed now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:32:39 No.54242087 Report

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I got a very obviously hacked shiny Tyranitar from wonder trade the other night. Its nickname is one of those injection sites.
Are the injection sites not generating valid shinies? If they are, I don't see why VGC players would buy a legit shiny, which would necessarily be more expensive.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:32:52 No.54242089 Report

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>tfw I should up with my go shinies

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:33:00 No.54242090 Report

Quoted By: >>54242260 >>54247746

>>54242049
>over 1000 pokemon
>meta consists of 3 variations of the same 6 pokemon

This game needs more tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:44:28 No.54242162 Report

Quoted By: >>54242179 >>54243236

>>54241480
would it not be possible to simply use an external device to back up your save before catching enamorus, then transfer it to home over and over until you get a 0IV? do they have any detection for dupe mons like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:47:15 No.54242179 Report

Quoted By: >>54242221

>>54242162
I am pretty sure they do have a detector for dupes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:53:06 No.54242221 Report

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>>54242179
well, what if you just started up a new save game and then injected an enamorus to transfer out? does home actually scan your save to make sure all the proper flags are set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:55:01 No.54242236 Report

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>>54241303
>black guy
>itachi
>muh economic degree
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 22:59:06 No.54242260 Report

Quoted By: >>54242277

>>54242090
you seem to forget that there's only about 450 available because gf are fucking jews
>>54242049
this really wouldn't be that big of a deal if the designs here weren't dogshit horrible. only hands luna and tran look half fucking decent

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Aug 2023 23:01:14 No.54242277 Report

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>>54242260
>IT'S THE JEWS
what did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:04:01 No.54242658 Report

Quoted By: >>54242704

What are 0 IV's useful for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:10:41 No.54242704 Report

Quoted By: >>54242734

>>54242658
Some pokemon want to be as slow as possible so they can oporate in trick room effectively, along with moves like gyro ball, etc.

And a very small selection on special attackers want low attack to mitigate foul play and confusion damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:13:34 No.54242730 Report

Quoted By: >>54247746

>>54242049
Christ, Flutter Mane is utter cancer, what the hell was Game Freak thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:14:10 No.54242734 Report

Quoted By: >>54242750 >>54243260

>>54242704
>a very small selection on special attackers want low attack
isn't it technically optimal for any pokemon that doesn't use physical attacks?
you wouldn't actually go to the trouble of getting it in most cases, but it's still optimal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:15:28 No.54242750 Report

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>>54242734
yeah, but some want it more than others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:24:15 No.54242825 Report

Quoted By: >>54242922 >>54243546

I miss super training. There hasn’t been an easy way to do EVs since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:34:23 No.54242922 Report

Quoted By: >>54243397

>>54242825
Poke Pelago

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:38:11 No.54242957 Report

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But then you’d have to play Sun and moon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 00:39:08 No.54242965 Report

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>>54241303
and I'll gen pokes with PKHEX and sell them as legit. hahahaha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 01:15:30 No.54243236 Report

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>>54242162
You could do that yes, but how many people have a model 1 Switch? And again, you're still using some sort of external device. The actual solution is for TPCi/Game Freak to decide if they want Pokemon to be a competitive game or not. If they do, then they need to make a way for players to be on a balanced playing field. They sort of did this for a while with the "had to be caught in the current game" rule and "no mythicals because not everyone has had access to the events" rule, but they moved away from it. There needs to be a reasonable way to get any usable Pokemon and get it perfect stats in a reasonably short amount of time or Pokemon will come down to "who got lucky with their <obscure pokemon> speed IV roll/who figured out how to inject a legit one."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 01:17:40 No.54243260 Report

Quoted By: >>54243558

>>54242734
It is more optimal, but if your Pokemon resists dark, and getting that 6th IV perfect would be the difference between 5 minutes of prep and 6 hours of prep is it really worth it? If you're injecting and just typing the number in then, yes, of course you type 0, but in game you're not bothering with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 01:32:04 No.54243397 Report

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>>54242922
There hasn't been an easy way to do EVs since Super Training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 01:46:03 No.54243546 Report

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>>54242825
They doubled the gain from the held items, and the starting area around your house in SV has clusters of pokemon for all 6 stats.
It takes like 10 minutes tops to max an EV for 5 mons at a time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 01:47:12 No.54243558 Report

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>>54243260
Not just about Foul Play, it also affects Confusion damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 05:00:03 No.54245193 Report

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>>54241303
The sad reality!

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Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 05:02:39 No.54245220 Report

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>>54241303
I sell Pokemon on a market website. It's amazing how many people will give me $5 for a minute's work in PKHex and 2-3 to fire off the trade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 13:11:05 No.54247689 Report

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>>54241303
I don't get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 13:20:29 No.54247746 Report

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>>54242090
>>54242730
>>54242049
This is why Smogon banned Flutter Mane, Urshifu, Chien-Pao, and Chi-Yu. You don't see this over-centralization in a format with bans.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 13:22:40 No.54247763 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Aug 2023 13:58:59 No.54247947 Report

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>>54241465
Those have both been easily available in many mainline games, but these shits don't play those games. It's really not hard to do any of this stuff and it doesn't take a lot of time either. The people getting DQ'd are new dickriders that don't give a shit about the franchise.

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