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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 12:37:49 No.54293583 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54293661 >>54293662 >>54293681 >>54293711 >>54293735 >>54294068 >>54295360

>people watch you to see how you overcome nuzlocke challenges and beat the game
>cheat restorations and rare candies
what is the logic here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 12:38:36 No.54293586 Report

Quoted By: >>54293841

money/time investment

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 12:40:04 No.54293591 Report

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pro players when they have to play pokemon (yuck)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 12:49:56 No.54293622 Report

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Afraid their mons get KO'd by a random tropius

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 12:51:33 No.54293633 Report

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>Full restore
Quite literally, endgame stuff; if you're going to spam, 99x of them is 297,000. You might as well use Box Legendaries while at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 12:54:10 No.54293642 Report

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Even normies know what nuzlocke challenge is, let alone install Pokemmo + mods

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 12:59:06 No.54293661 Report

Quoted By: >>54293674 >>54293677

>>54293583
Either watch player grind on shitmons for 4 hours before gym battle, or just watch gym battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 12:59:08 No.54293662 Report

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>>54293583
jan wants to play single player battle sim with random drafting instead of an RPG but slaps the recognizable nuzlocke label because he’s a lazy greedy fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:02:13 No.54293674 Report

Quoted By: >>54293688

>>54293661
people watch speedrunners grind runs. speedrunners don’t use hacks to skip boring sections and unskippable cutscenes then call themselves the “best HGSS speedrunner in the world.” werster would shit all over them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:03:09 No.54293677 Report

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>>54293661
>Remove any inherent challenge to the game
GRINDING IS TOO HARD. This Jan guy would get his ass blasted by any classic or even modern JRPG, especially Fire Emblem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:04:00 No.54293681 Report

Quoted By: >>54293694

>>54293583
>overcome challenges
Running back and forth to Pokemon Centers is just time waste, and he cannot use the FRs in battles. So is grinding since after a certain skill level you never lose Pokémon to grinds. Sure you do in your let's say 2-3 nuzlockes but after that It is the same if you grind or hack in RCs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:06:04 No.54293684 Report

Quoted By: >>54293693 >>54293694 >>54293702 >>54293861

>Have to livestream your nuzlockes
>Train 6 Pokemon on the same trainer over and over to level them for hours and hours
>Viewership declines
>You get no money
>Cheat in rare candies as it saves you time and makes the stream less boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:08:37 No.54293688 Report

Quoted By: >>54293704

>>54293674
A speed run is most of the time a couple of hours with little to no grind (X-items, potions in battles, legendaries allowed).
An EK HC nuzlocke is usually months if not years. EVEN with RCs and FRs hacked in. Now imagine if you would have to grind.
Also speedrunning is a community challenge, competing with other people. Nuzlockes are NOT a competition. It is a self imposed challenge for YOU and no one else.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:09:37 No.54293693 Report

Quoted By: >>54293731 >>54293812 >>54293831 >>54295050

>>54293684
streamer’s job is to be entertaining even if their content is boring. smallant didn’t take the pussy bitch way out by using hacks to lower shiny odds and grinded it out which made it more impressive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:09:51 No.54293694 Report

Quoted By: >>54293716

>>54293681
>>54293684
Which is exactly why you should kill yourself.
After all, you're just living out a boring grind till your in evitable death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:10:36 No.54293698 Report

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>is it possible to beat ____ with ____ restrictions
>turns out it’s not because of ____ but Im gonna cheat to get passed it so I claim game is beatable with _____

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:10:54 No.54293702 Report

Quoted By: >>54293861

>>54293684
Then he's a shitty streamer. A good streamer will make the most boring shit interesting. I watched an entertaining Sekiro challenger/speedrunner beat people up with no sword and he was jumping around a huge ape boss for 1.5h and it was the funniest shit ever thanks to his commentary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:10:57 No.54293704 Report

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>>54293688
>It is a self imposed challenge for YOU and no one else
Challenge?7

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:11:41 No.54293711 Report

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>>54293583
Treating Nuzlockes as challenging in any way is pure roleplay. It's a gimmick for streamers to add tension for the viewers to stick around. While it's not difficult, it's easy to be careless, especially for a streamer who is incentivized to create risky situations for content.

Jan however, is a true innovator that takes Nuzlockes to a new level. It's no longer just a wacky playtrough. He goes as far as to roleplay that it is actually difficult, difficult enough for it to have enough sttategic value to the point where you can ignore rpg-progression I applaud him. There's no way I would be able to do what he does without breaking character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:13:19 No.54293716 Report

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>>54293694
>After all, you're just living out a boring grind till your in evitable death.
DESU many people do and it is sad. That is why many people commit suicide because of the non-ending boring grind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:15:21 No.54293726 Report

Quoted By: >>54293983

Hello gamers, today we're gonna solve this super hard puzzle
anyway, I'm just gonna skip to googling the solution since the thinking grind is pointless and basically a waste of time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:16:08 No.54293731 Report

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>>54293693
ChadAnt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:16:27 No.54293735 Report

Quoted By: >>54293740

>>54293583
that is a face that needs to be punched which is what i will do if i ever see this faggot in public

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:17:05 No.54293740 Report

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>>54293735
based
I live in Germany so I'm with you anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:28:01 No.54293800 Report

Quoted By: >>54293805 >>54293848

I saw his collab with Ludwig and this guy was relying on documentations to play the game and build a perfect team, then seethe hard when the documentation was wrong. Ludwig is unironically a better nuzlocker because he didn't rely on documentation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:29:40 No.54293805 Report

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>>54293800
Ludwig likes a challenge, unlike PokemonChallenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:31:36 No.54293812 Report

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>>54293693
tbf he's not a gay Pokétuber

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:38:09 No.54293831 Report

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>>54293693
The fact that he got 2 shiny electrode but missed the first one because he was distracted interacting with the chat is even more hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:40:54 No.54293841 Report

Quoted By: >>54294042

>>54293586
It's not worth my time to watch someone cheat at Pokemon and pretend they're good at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:42:32 No.54293848 Report

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>>54293800
Its incredibly funny that he wants to do the exact opposite of the point of Nuzlockes.
Like I get that modern Nuzlockes are sort of an abberation at this point anyway; but Nuzlockes are literally meant to be just playing a random hand essentially.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 13:47:43 No.54293861 Report

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>>54293684
Not only >>54293702 but maybe consider then that nuzlockes are pretty fucking terrible "content"?
Even the base idea at its core is a personalized run, something that doesn't really work if you don't feel any kind of attachment to what's being used.
Pokemon is also a slow, boring, easy game to stream and how these nuzlockers play it even with rare candies is slow, boring and easy. No one wants to watch that shit, Pchal specifically got big off leeching from bigger streamers and people jump on the nuzlocke train as a joke and then immediately hop off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 14:13:26 No.54293983 Report

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>>54293726
>Gamegrumps

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 14:29:47 No.54294042 Report

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>>54293841
That's why they don't tell you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 14:38:39 No.54294068 Report

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>>54293583
>/vp/ keeps making threads about Jan because???
Why are you people like this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 14:43:50 No.54294083 Report

Quoted By: >>54294091 >>54294120 >>54295139

lol nuzlockes have level caps and rare candies make you lose out on EVs so if anything you are at a disadvantage
I don't see how people would have a problem with this, not everyone is a basement dwelling neet with all the time in the world on their hands, the end result is the same anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 14:46:12 No.54294091 Report

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>>54294083
Some romhacks don't have EVs and they're usually the one they advertise as "le ebin hardest romhack nuzlock ever made you won't believe what happen in the 5th gym!!!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 14:53:45 No.54294120 Report

Quoted By: >>54295046

>>54294083
One shotting every encounter is easy EV training. You can literally EV train before your first badge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 18:02:26 No.54295046 Report

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>>54294120
Yeah but it's boring. Why on earth would you willingly do that in a playthrough, let alone one you're streaming to entertain viewers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 18:04:39 No.54295050 Report

Quoted By: >>54295081

>>54293693
he literally used speed hack RETAERD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 18:11:57 No.54295081 Report

Quoted By: >>54295611

>>54295050
>Increasing the speed of the game is the same as skipping levels

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 18:27:08 No.54295139 Report

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>>54294083
he's a streamer. He LITERALLY has all the time in the world on his hands

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 18:27:34 No.54295141 Report

Quoted By: >>54295476

>play retardedly hard fan hacks with self-invented meta challenges to show how good you are
>games become so unplayably horseshit by your own self-imposed rules that you have to skip 99% of the actual gameplay in order for your audiences to not die of boredom watching you try to play the game
Nuzlocking is a bubble on the verge of bursting. Everyone is teetering dangerously close to the edge of realizing that they don't actually like Pokemon for Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:09:44 No.54295360 Report

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>>54293583
This is an extremely difficult challenge, you need this shit dumbfuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:17:12 No.54295406 Report

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>""""""""""""hardcore"""""""""""" nuzlocke rules: you can only grind up to the gym leader's levels, i.e. much higher level than everything besides the gym leader
it's fucking Pokemon why are you grinding at all for the main game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:30:47 No.54295476 Report

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>>54295141
Good, this cancerous trend of liking things ironically can't die soon enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:56:24 No.54295611 Report

Quoted By: >>54295706

>>54295081
>>smallant didn’t take the pussy bitch way out
>>grinded it out which made it more impressive
>speedhacked it
looool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:05:49 No.54295649 Report

Quoted By: >>54295652 >>54295703

Not that I'm defending this annoying little fag but the romhacks he attempts to nuzlocke are so autistically hard that it takes like 50 attempts and he doesn't wanna grind levels.
That's his reasoning I suppose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:06:23 No.54295652 Report

Quoted By: >>54295729

>>54295649
what's the point of playing if you don't have to deal with wild encounters being any sort of danger?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:17:26 No.54295703 Report

Quoted By: >>54295729

>>54295649
then don't play the romhacks
or better yet, just play the romhacks without all the autistic fucking rules about level caps and whatever if it's too le hard

it isn't even 'hard' what he does most of the time anyway, it's some insane lottery that's still boring as fuck to watch because he spends 8 hours on every boss battle prepping until someone in his chat gives him the answer to win

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:18:30 No.54295706 Report

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>>54295611
Stooooop!! He's my favorite hecking eceleb and that means he's my friend!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:23:40 No.54295729 Report

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>>54295652
I play nuzlockes and while I've lost a couple of team members to wild encounters and grinding its just not nearly as dangerous as gyms
>>54295703
I'm not him and I don't play romhacks. Also not defending him but I can see this is his logic. At face value I think its kinda gay too, but if I did the same type of shit as him would I do this? Maybe so.
>insane lottery
Yeah that's what stops me from nuzlocking romhacks. its just too autistic. It can't be fun

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:27:09 No.54295747 Report

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>Beat the next boss with as few deaths as possible while staying at or under the level cap
That's a Nuzlocke. Resource management is a moot point, since virtually no entry does it. Emerald Rogue basically invalidates all other Pokemons if you want to play this way.
Nuzlocke is also cancerous because it draws attention to "QoL" hacks, which are creatively bankrupt and conceptually limited. Why bother coming up with a solution to e.g. resource management or HMs if your audience has been conditioned to request their absence?

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