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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 18:53:20 No.54295276 View View Reply Original Report

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They are a literal blue mage
This shit is cool as fuck, wish they were more common and stronger

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 18:56:18 No.54295291 Report

Quoted By: >>54295375

This was by far the most powerful Pokemon in VGC 2016, fucking Primal Groudon had to flee from it

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:07:48 No.54295354 Report

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a pokeboy thread died for this

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:09:23 No.54295358 Report

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>>54295276
>>54295354
Based.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:12:55 No.54295375 Report

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>>54295291
But why. Even if it copied Groudon's moves, it doesn't have the required attack stat to cause any real damage even with Technician.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:15:41 No.54295393 Report

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>>54295276
have fun using it in BDSP

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:33:05 No.54295486 Report

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>>54295375
It uses Dark Void to put both opposing Pokemon to sleep. Then its partner, Xerneas, gets a Geomancy boost completely for free. Smeargle then uses Helping Hand so that Xerneas can one-shot Groudon.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:41:19 No.54295537 Report

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only time i used this was for false swipe stab which probably wasnt even very efficient

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 19:45:50 No.54295565 Report

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>>54295486
Don't you mean
>Smeargle then uses Transform on its partner so that there are now +2SPD +2SATK +2SDEF Xerneases on your side of the field.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:42:29 No.54295820 Report

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my guy

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:44:46 No.54295839 Report

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>>54295276
how old are you? jesus christ

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Anonymous Fri 18 Aug 2023 20:54:23 No.54295902 Report

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>>54295393
what did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 00:03:17 No.54296961 Report

Quoted By: >>54297089 >>54297097

People are saying Smeargle isn't gonna be a threat anymore, since Dark Void was nerfed to only work for Darkrai, and Moody also got nerfed since Smeargle was last able to be used. I say those people lack imagination:

>Smeargle @ Leppa Berry
>Revival Blessing
>Recycle

The potential to trigger multiple ally revivals if adequately protected by a doubles partner with rage powder/follow me/ally switch could be a huge threat for the inevitable "1 restricted legendary per team" VGC format. The last two moves could also be used for further support, ie Psychic Terrain and Lumina Crash to enable Expanding Force Calyrex-S.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 00:07:17 No.54296984 Report

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ITT: OP played an FF game for the first time 10 minutes ago

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 00:09:25 No.54296997 Report

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>>54295276
underage

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 00:23:54 No.54297089 Report

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>>54296961
Indeedee is better support for Calyrex
>sets up Psychic Terrain without having to waste a move
>Follow Me to draw away ghost attacks
>Helping Hand
>Trick Room for baiting an enemy Tailwind or reversing an enemy Trick Room

You are right, though, that Smeargle will have a place in VGC. A Follow Me that can't be blocked by Safety Goggles and a base 75 speed Spore will always be threats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 00:25:20 No.54297097 Report

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>>54296961
>unlimited zacians
VGC is going to be the worst it's ever been, isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 00:39:52 No.54297170 Report

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>>54297097
On the plus side, Intrepid Sword got nerfed so it only activates once per battle, reviving zacian multiple times won't be as effective since it loses the +1 attack boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 00:58:32 No.54297282 Report

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>>54295276
>if you have a lv100 smeargle from Bank (gen 2-7), transferring it to Switch will make it forget all moves and leave a single Sketch
FUCK POKEMON HOME
FUCK GAMEFREAK
FUCK TPCI
FUCK ILCA

AND FUCK OHMORI

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 01:00:06 No.54297293 Report

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>>54297282
You can relearn moves infinitely now, but teaching it everything again will suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 01:05:42 No.54297318 Report

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>>54297282
is this confirmed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 01:07:15 No.54297325 Report

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>>54297282
lmao just inject

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 01:08:31 No.54297335 Report

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>>54297170
The bigger nerf will be if the Rusted Sword goes the way of the Red Orb. Base form Zacian is good, but it's not "king of VGC on every team" good.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 01:09:12 No.54297337 Report

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>>54297293
Are there any wild double battles in game?

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 01:10:31 No.54297343 Report

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>>54297337
No.
There are barely any trainer battles too. You'll have to Trick a Focus Sash onto a wild Smeargle after putting it to sleep so it doesn't run out of PP and Struggle.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 01:39:40 No.54297489 Report

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>>54295375
Smeargle isn't really about direct attacks (although it can be done with the right setup), it's dangerous because it can pull off combinations of statuses, boosts, debuffs, and secondary effects that weren't really designed to all be on one pokemon. It's stats are so low because if it was even just average it'd be hilariously overpowered.

But yeah, Smeargle's great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 01:42:09 No.54297502 Report

Quoted By: >>54300475

>>54295375
Smeargle has the best possible movepool, because it can use every move except for an extraordinarily small number of exceptions, and it can have ANY combination of those moves.
This allows it to be the best support pokemon, with no contest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 09:13:12 No.54299200 Report

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>>54295276
>they
ACK

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 09:22:53 No.54299227 Report

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>>54299200
???

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 13:21:30 No.54299869 Report

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>>54299227
YWNBAW, newfag

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 14:19:04 No.54300089 Report

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>>54299869
>YWNBAW
>newfag
implying

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:03:49 No.54300475 Report

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>>54297502
>This allows it to be the best support pokemon, with no contest
sometimes, not always; prankster is one hell of a drug so the genies, whimsicott and grimmsnarl always contest the best support/annoyer spot

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:44:07 No.54300606 Report

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>>54295276
Smeargle is good all the way back to his debut in gen 2

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:48:09 No.54300621 Report

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>>54295276
>stronger
Hell no.

But i agree, Smeargles are very fun to use in both PVP and PVE, which is very rare for a gimmick mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 16:53:10 No.54300644 Report

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>>54295375
Well it's a support mon, not attack mon. (Plus if you really want some attacking options on it, you could give it something like foul play or super fang)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 18:03:59 No.54301041 Report

Quoted By: >>54301066

>>54295276
>>54295276
>>54295276
Give smeargle a gimmick where certain types of moves are less effective/more effective/don't work anywhere near as well/have secondaries/etc
that way smeargle can have different flavors, like base it on nature since people say stats aren't a big deal, only neutral smeargles will have all moves normally, while others get some types or styles of moves boosted or weakened. They can all still paint everything, but not be as effective as others

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Anonymous Sat 19 Aug 2023 18:09:07 No.54301066 Report

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>>54301041
Why? Smeargle is one of the best examples of a well balanced gimmick as is

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