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Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:07:12 No.54384957 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54384973 >>54384975 >>54385089 >>54385121 >>54385156 >>54388063

>this game sold really well, therefore it's good!
why do shills think like that? it's not like they're getting a cut of the profits

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:11:36 No.54384973 Report

Quoted By: >>54385073 >>54385078 >>54385245 >>54386940 >>54387187 >>54387219 >>54388195

>>54384957
Because sales are the only truly objective metric of how good a game is. Some autistic YouTuber's opinion or the reviews of game journos mean nothing as they are totally subjective. Sales numbers don't lie.
They can be skewed (see how Gen VI was screwed over by how bad Gen V was and how the mess that was Gen IX benefitted from Gen VIII being good) but they're the best we have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:11:52 No.54384975 Report

Quoted By: >>54387219

>>54384957
Because that's how most people think. For example, I know a lot of writers that still believe Avengers: Endgame was one of the best movies in the world, so that means all sagas must end the same way it ended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:30:53 No.54385073 Report

Quoted By: >>54385109

>>54384973
>sales numbers are an objective measurement of quality
>except for these two games I like, then they're inaccurate and skewed because
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:32:00 No.54385078 Report

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>>54384973
Discord post seething about gen 5 for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:33:38 No.54385089 Report

Quoted By: >>54385137

>>54384957
Because lower-level thinkers can't comprehend factors on what makes a game good outside of sales as unlike other factors, sale numbers are easy to understand regardless of intellect and are materially objective regardless of the products quality. Also most people's understanding of pretty much anything being good or not goes as "popular=good", and not much else beyond that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:39:23 No.54385109 Report

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>>54385073
This is what I like to call personal bias. People that try to argue the dumb assessment of "popular = good" will inevitably run into exceptions that they won't enjoy regardless of perception of the product, so instead of understanding that popularity is literally just a group of opinions and has no place in objectivity, they'll perform mental gymnastics as to why it's popular despite not being a good product and continue perpetuating the awful take of "popular = good", performing cognitive dissonance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:43:14 No.54385121 Report

Quoted By: >>54385138 >>54386802

>>54384957
In Joe's case, Pokemon is his life. I'm pretty sure he would kill himself if the series ever ended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:46:14 No.54385137 Report

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>>54385089
Plus plenty of actually awful games have sold amazing well. Legacy of Goku on GBA was a really REALLY shit game that sold a few million units on GBA and would often brag about it’s sales despite being carried sololy by the IP. The renewed interest in Pokemon thanks to GO is gonna allow just about any new game now to sell millions in weeks just from IP. How many people do you think bought SV blindly without knowing anything besides “it’s a new pokemon game”
Infact alot of 3rd versions of games sold less than their first versions despite being objective upgrades. They sold less because casuals aren’t interested in double dipping for a game they consider a slight upgrade, especially if they didnt really like the first version. Like telling someone who disliked DP to try out Platinum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:46:18 No.54385138 Report

Quoted By: >>54391225

>>54385121
He's unironically on the spectrum and Pokémon is his hyperfocus. He'll defend this franchise no matter how many bugs Masuda shoves inside his anus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:48:22 No.54385148 Report

Quoted By: >>54385207 >>54387254 >>54390541

retards have zero concept of things like marketing, install base and pricing affecting the number of sales

you also have situations where a sequel sells great from people's expectations of the previous game, it turns out to be shit, and then the next game which is actually good sells worse from the shit sequel tainting its image

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:49:59 No.54385156 Report

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>>54384957
most consumers are just religious people without a religion, safety in numbers and perceived rate of participation gives them comfort similar to churchgoers knowing all their neighbors go to church and pray.

If at any point, this belief of "everyone agrees, I am part of everyone" is threatened, they go apeshit. Now, I am not saying this is le bad, just a way for people to feel safe or validated, the real problem is when they go militant and demandd everyone agrees, or else.

Luckily, all your average shill can do is take HRT and make twitter threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:55:36 No.54385201 Report

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because they are, people hate pkmn these days are not real fans and they are haters and jealous because nobody cares their favorites series

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 14:56:47 No.54385207 Report

Quoted By: >>54385247

>>54385148
>sequel which is an objective improvement but almost always sells less
Shit happens all the time I don’t get why people keep thinking sales = quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 15:03:38 No.54385245 Report

Quoted By: >>54385250 >>54385257

>>54384973
If they made a game with 4 gyms and 50 pokemon and it sold super well, is it good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 15:03:50 No.54385247 Report

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>>54385207
retards who possess only one layer of thinking or other retards who do it on purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 15:04:17 No.54385250 Report

Quoted By: >>54385262

>>54385245
Objectively it must be, seeing as the market has decided it to be so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 15:05:04 No.54385257 Report

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>>54385245
yes because i'll take any fucking deviation from the current formula, i want gyms gone and the entire game structure to be something new instead of retreading literally the same horseshit framework since the late fucking 90s

we have been playing the same fucking game since gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 15:06:03 No.54385262 Report

Quoted By: >>54385285

>>54385250
how can we trust that they are buying it because they genuinely believe it's a quality product and not out of comfort and fear of misisng out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 15:09:15 No.54385285 Report

Quoted By: >>54385297

>>54385262
People don't spend modern game prices on games they don't believe will be quality products nowadays, anon. Especially in today's economy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 15:10:31 No.54385297 Report

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>>54385285
confirmed retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 19:26:31 No.54386802 Report

Quoted By: >>54386924

>>54385121
Joe has no skills outside of maintaining his shitty fansite. If Pokémon ends he'll starve.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 19:53:26 No.54386924 Report

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>>54386802

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 19:56:27 No.54386940 Report

Quoted By: >>54386958 >>54387202

>>54384973
Reminder that Sonic 06 outsold Mania

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 19:59:55 No.54386958 Report

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>>54386940
Yeah, it even got the "Platinum Hits" label and they played it in Breaking Bad, which was huge at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 20:40:16 No.54387187 Report

Quoted By: >>54387217

>>54384973
>play game
>it's shit
>can pinpoint and explain why
Sales mean nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 20:42:39 No.54387202 Report

Quoted By: >>54388174

>>54386940
Good, classic Sonic has always been overrated shit. The modern games are better to everyone who isn't a journo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 20:44:58 No.54387217 Report

Quoted By: >>54388099 >>54392121

>>54387187
Your opinions are entirely subjective though, as most complaints with a game that don't boil down to actual objective, mechanical flaws as with SV are completely down to individual preference and thus are not objective. In fact, game "quality" is mostly subjective/unquantifiable beyond its ability to make you buy the next one and thus continue the company's ability to make games. Thus it could be argued that sales are the ONLY thing that means anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 20:45:05 No.54387219 Report

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>>54384973
>>54384975
This, why do you think Nintendo faps to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 20:49:46 No.54387254 Report

Quoted By: >>54387313

>>54385148
>Each game progressively gets worse since Black/White
>Each game sells progressively more since Black/White
According to this logic, each game keeps being better then the last cause like fuck did Sw/Sh do jack shit for S/V.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 20:57:41 No.54387313 Report

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>>54387254
BW2 was the beginning of the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:01:46 No.54388063 Report

Quoted By: >>54388122

>>54384957
>this game sold like shit, therefore it's good!
why do hipsters think like that? it's not like gamefreak is going to make more flops just to satisfy their autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:05:29 No.54388099 Report

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>>54387217
My opinion is superior and I have ascended. My taste is beyond what you shill faggots can comprehend. My opinion is fact, and it's the only one that matters. SV is objectively shit because I said so. Cry harder cuck shill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:08:33 No.54388122 Report

Quoted By: >>54388134

>>54388063
literally noone thinks that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:11:08 No.54388134 Report

Quoted By: >>54388189

>>54388122
>Gen 5
>PLA
>the Mystery Dungeon games
All sold like shit, all shitty games, all jerked off by /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:16:19 No.54388174 Report

Quoted By: >>54388183 >>54388259

>>54387202
>I'm being a retard and no-one can stop me!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:17:49 No.54388183 Report

Quoted By: >>54388205

>>54388174
>I have literal journo-tier taste and no-one can stop me!
That's your problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:18:24 No.54388189 Report

Quoted By: >>54389447

>>54388134
You said "sold like shit == it's good", literally noone thinks that. Also PLA didn't sell like shit, nice meme tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:19:00 No.54388195 Report

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>>54384973
Then why hasn't Pokemon become a mobile-only franchise? GO makes more money on an annual basis than all Pokemon games, both mainline and spinoff, have collectively gathered in their lifetimes COMBINED.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:19:43 No.54388200 Report

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The only people more autistic than adults who criticize modern Pokemon are adults who defend modern Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:20:49 No.54388205 Report

Quoted By:

>>54388183
Stop talking around the adults, child.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 23:34:22 No.54388259 Report

Quoted By:

>>54388174
classicspergs are the genwunners of the sonic franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 03:11:36 No.54389447 Report

Quoted By:

>>54388189
>You said "sold like shit == it's good", literally noone thinks that.
This entire fucking board are retarded hipsters. They screech when you point out how shit gen 5 is.
>Also PLA didn't sell like shit, nice meme tho.
Got beat by BDSP, showing that people don't want a shitty BOTW knockoff, they want true blue pokemon games like gens 1-4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 08:07:22 No.54390541 Report

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>>54385148
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 12:47:34 No.54391225 Report

Quoted By:

>>54385138
Even Gigantamax Kricketune?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:12:36 No.54392121 Report

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>>54387217
If he knew the game was shit before hand then he wouldn't have bought it in the first place, meaning it would have one less sale. Explain this, retard.

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