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>>54391647
Signature move
>Ivy Cudgel (Normal type, becomes Grass, Fire, Water or Rock type)
>Physical, 10 PP
>Power of 80, accuracy of 100
>+1 Crit Rate

Ability
>Embody Aspect, boosts speed, attack, special defense or defense by wearing the Teal, Hearthflame, Wellspring and Cornerstone masks respectively.

Moveset
>1. Curse; 1. Double Hit; 1. Growth; 1. Hex; 8. Infestation; 16. Taunt; 24. Shadow Sneak; 32. Terrain Pulse; 40. Endeavor; 48. Ivy Cudgel; 56. Close Combat; 56. Dazzling Gleam; 56. Trick Room; 64. Victory Dance; 72. Memento; 80. Last Respects, TM002; TM003; TM004; TM006; TM007; TM012; TM013; TM015; TM017; TM021; TM025; TM029; TM030; TM032; TM035; TM039; TM042; TM047; TM052; TM054; TM062; TM070; TM074; TM075; TM079; TM080; TM085; TM087; TM092; TM098; TM103; TM104; TM109; TM112; TM122; TM130; TM131; TM132; TM133; TM140; TM148; TM151; TM152; TM156; TM158; TM161; TM163; TM167; TM171

Form differences
>Teal form (Ghost-Grass)
>115-105-105-105-105-130
>learns 1. Mega Drain; 12. Trailblaze; 24. Grassy Terrain; 36. Leech Seed; 48. Grass Knot; 60. Petal Dance; 72. Power Whip; 84. Frenzy Plant, TM020; TM056; TM081; TM119; TM137; TM155; TM159

>Hearthflame form (Ghost-Fire)
>115-130-105-105-105-105
>learns 1. Incinerate; 12. Fire Spin; 24. Sunny Day; 36. Lava Plume; 48. Will-O-Wisp; 60. Eruption; 72. Raging Fury; 84. Blast Burn, TM024; TM049; TM107; TM118; TM153; TM157; TM165

>Wellspring form (Ghost-Water)
>115-105-105-105-130-105
>learns 1. Brine; 12. Chilling Water; 24. Rain Dance; 36. Life Dew; 48. Water Pulse; 60. Wave Crash; Aqua Ring; 84. Hydro Cannon, TM011; TM022; TM050; TM110; TM123; TM142; TM154

>Cornerstone form (Ghost-Rock)
>115-105-130-105-105-105
>learns 1. Smack Down; 12. Rock Tomb; 24. Sandstorm; 36. Ancient Power; 48. Stealth Rock; 60. Head Smash; 72. Wide Guard; 84. Meteor Beam, TM036; TM051; TM086; TM101; TM116; TM150

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:10:10 No.54392102 Report

Quoted By: >>54392124 >>54392126 >>54392128 >>54392205

>>54391622
What makes it AG worthy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:13:32 No.54392124 Report

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>>54392102
It has legendary tier stats, plus Victory Dance and Last Respects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:13:43 No.54392126 Report

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>>54392102
It gets a signature move that has more a chance to crit than usual and gets last respects along with monstrous stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:13:54 No.54392128 Report

Quoted By: >>54392207

>>54392102
It has Victory Dance, Last Respects and its BST is 660.

That alone should tell you how autistic this thing is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:14:46 No.54392135 Report

Quoted By: >>54392205

>>54391730
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:23:09 No.54392205 Report

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>>54392102
>>54391730
>>54392135
From Home datamining, 660 bst with Victory Dance, Last Respects, other bunch of moves (this shit learns everything), four different forms that focus on the stat the ability increases depending on the mask, high cirtical chance move and whatever the Tera mask does to it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:23:33 No.54392207 Report

Quoted By: >>54393957

>>54392128
>It has Victory Dance, Last Respects and its BST is 660
Whoever is supposed to balance the new mons has been smoking crack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 16:25:50 No.54392220 Report

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>>54391622
>steals other pokemon powerful signature moves
>has its own powerful signature move
>amazing rounded stats
This bitch is victini 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 20:36:05 No.54393957 Report

Quoted By: >>54394007 >>54397997

>>54392207
They've ever once tried to have balance in this series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 20:45:30 No.54394007 Report

Quoted By: >>54394042 >>54394226

>>54393957
They stopped the Tapus from gaining the terrain moves from SwSh
Plenty of mons have been nerfed over the years
Abilities have been changed like Gengar losing levitate
They do in fact care to some extent or they'd leave shit like that alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 20:50:07 No.54394042 Report

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>>54394007
They're giving Zacian old ability to their new shilled legendary mon. They're only nerfing shit to make their new broken mons stand out more. All thanks to Dexit now that they don't have to think about balance after one game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 20:55:25 No.54394082 Report

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So are we pretending that these sourceless stats/abilities are trustworthy in any way? Why? When have we ever gotten an accurate leak on the minutiae of a Pokemon rather than the broad strokes of it's design/themes/dex entry?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 21:07:26 No.54394149 Report

Quoted By: >>54394219 >>54394291

>>54391622
>we want the wojak audience haha because we saw wojaks being popular on twitter XD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 21:18:43 No.54394219 Report

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>>54394149
I can't tell if this is ironic or you are genuinely retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 21:20:24 No.54394226 Report

Quoted By: >>54395788

>>54394007
I wonder who the fuck had the idea to nerf gengar with all the broken shit running around,he should get an imunity to dark now to compensate gamejew stupidity

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 21:33:40 No.54394291 Report

Quoted By: >>54395217

>>54394149

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Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 21:47:45 No.54394362 Report

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>>54391622
That mean ol' queen...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 21:56:44 No.54394412 Report

Quoted By: >>54395183

>>54391730
>gets every single good and busted move possible
>even gets starter exclusive moves
>on those stats
>with those abilities
>on a pokemon that looks like a japan's regional mascot
I used to think people in the "buff threads" turning every mon with every single movepool, exclusive abilities and moves, and minmaxed stats were retarded but after all GF was the most retarded of them all.
At this point all I can do is to sit back and watch how broken the next mons will be

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 23:46:47 No.54395183 Report

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>>54394412
>So what can Ogerpon do?
>Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Sep 2023 23:51:30 No.54395217 Report

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>>54394291
Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 01:42:55 No.54395788 Report

Quoted By: >>54395820

>>54394226
Gengar losing levitate was more of a flavor thing than a balance change. It made him worse yeah but it was fucking stupid to suggest he was levitating when he is always standing on the fucking ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 01:50:27 No.54395820 Report

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>>54395788
If you paid attention to his animations when in battle you'd notice it actually starts floating. In SV it also has an alternative stance where it's fully off of the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 02:03:04 No.54395883 Report

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>>54391647
-last respects
-essentially gorilla tactics minus its downside on the fire mask form with higher speed than darm
-grass mask just gets a speed boost
-excellent movepool
what else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 05:50:40 No.54396809 Report

Quoted By: >>54396835

>>54391622
SLISKE NO!

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Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 05:56:02 No.54396835 Report

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>>54396809
>Ritual of the Mahjarrat mentioned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 06:03:18 No.54396874 Report

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>>54391730
>Boost speed
>Typing btfo's Amoongus' spore
Now that form will go straight to AG

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 06:03:31 No.54396876 Report

Quoted By: >>54397993

This thing has 665 bst which usually means that it will be banned in most competitions.

So why do we care that a box legend is broken?
Is like wanting to balance Mewtwo.
VGC no restrictions was a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 12:23:35 No.54397954 Report

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>>54391730
The fire one looks like it is easily the worst of the forms might even be usable in OU when things settle. It's physical STAB options are comete dogshit and Last Respects is banned so it isn't really going to make much use out of the big attack stat and boost. Outrage clone is shit, no Flare Blitz, and physical ghost syndrome. Ivy Cudgel is only slightly stronger than the weak Fire Punch the crit boost is too inconsistent to make up for the weak power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 12:36:18 No.54397993 Report

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>>54396876
> 665 BST
> Oni pokémon
I see what GF did here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 12:37:34 No.54397997 Report

Quoted By: >>54398143

>>54393957
3 new types were introduced to balance game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 13:13:09 No.54398134 Report

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>>54391730
>Source: a obvious fake leak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Sep 2023 13:15:44 No.54398143 Report

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>>54397997
Yeah and two of those types are the top typings of the whole series, with the third not far off. Pokemon has never been balanced.

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