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Masuda changed his fucking mind and allowed an Colosseum remake:

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 05:52:21 No.54448166 View View Reply Original Report

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What are the improvements that this game needs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 05:59:29 No.54448188 Report

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>>54448166
WAY better pacing and new levels between the Under and Shadow Lab, and the lab and Realgam Tower. The game just becomes basically a boss rush once you reach Venus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 05:59:42 No.54448190 Report

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>>54448166
>Battle Speed
>An actual option to run
>Revamping the Purification process
>Tie-in to XD storywise

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:02:31 No.54448197 Report

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>>54448166

Making doubles optional.
Expanding on the routes in between instead of fast travelling.
Maybe give the player his bike as a usable item.
Wild locations to catch Pokemon and not just snagging enemy trainers Pokemon. XD could do it.
More general content. Like a postgame with more shadow Pokemon. Not just Gen 2 mons.
Build more of a frontier or maison around Mt Battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:13:54 No.54448242 Report

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>>54448197
>Making doubles optional.
Fair. That disrupted the playflow during the midway point a lot.
>Expanding on the routes in between instead of fast travelling.
That could be a fun minigame.
>Like a postgame with more shadow Pokemon. Not just Gen 2 mons.
That was something that always bugged me as too. For a game released in Gen 3 to only make mainly gen 2 mons available in the single player campaign was stupid.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:23:02 No.54448263 Report

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>>54448242
>For a game released in Gen 3 to only make mainly gen 2 mons available in the single player campaign was stupid.
Not when most of those gen 2 mons were not available in Ruby/Sapphire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:27:09 No.54448271 Report

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Far more Pokemon variety.
Add a Safari Zone area for catching non-Shadow Pokemon after a certain point.
More backstory for the Admins.
Give girl who can see Shadow Pokemon some flavor text in each area.
Use the first battle theme more.

That's about it. It's never going to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:27:36 No.54448272 Report

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>>54448271
>That's about it. It's never going to happen.
Fuuuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:30:08 No.54448280 Report

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>>54448166
>What are the improvements that this game needs?
less battles, better story, more mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:33:30 No.54448292 Report

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>>54448271
All of this
And
add new Pokémon exclusive to the region

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:39:02 No.54448306 Report

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>>54448280
I don't get the more mons part. Doesn't that kinda contradicts the Orre tone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:40:58 No.54448311 Report

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>>54448306
not really since gale set up that mons are returning
I can't imagine them just remaking it 1 to 1 probably more like ORAS where it is a different dimension (e.g. where pokemon were never forced out of the area) or a timejump after gale

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:41:03 No.54448313 Report

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>>54448166
You can send Shadow mons from go to purify

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:47:42 No.54448336 Report

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>>54448313
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 06:50:57 No.54448341 Report

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>>54448166
Less fucking time between animations

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 07:00:30 No.54448367 Report

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>>54448166
Fix the fish faces.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 07:42:22 No.54448498 Report

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>>54448166
unironically make it edgier. not romhack level but pokemon was allowed to get away with more serious stuff like lusamine or half the shit in explorers and by comparison colloseum having an edgy biker protagonist that bombs a building falls flat when you then spend the rest of the game doing generic jrpg things

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 07:58:20 No.54448551 Report

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>>54448166
Besides the obvious Gen9+ mechanics
>bring back the Game Corner, or Voltorb Flip, or something.
>in fact, bring back every minigame or side game that the mainline Pokemon series has ever had at one point. Contests, Musicals, the berry minigames from FRLG, Underground capture the flag. super training, etc.
>an option to skip or speed up animations
>a battle tower or battle frontier equivalent
>combine both Colosseum and Gale in some fashion. Not sure how exactly but do it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 08:01:21 No.54448560 Report

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>>54448271
>Add a Safari Zone area for catching non-Shadow Pokemon after a certain point.
Make it just like Legends Arceus and make it so that Pokemon are more eager to flee or attack you to add extra challenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 08:05:34 No.54448580 Report

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>>54448551
What exactly were the changes in Gale? Never touched it myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 08:17:50 No.54448612 Report

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>>54448580
added wild pokemon
improved animations
improved the shadow pokemon mechanics with easier purification and shadow-type moves that are super effective against all non--shadow pokemon (it's not nearly as overpowered as it sounds)
added battle bingo
added Battle CDs (basically event matches from Smash Bros)
Decreased the "adult" themes and context in most casesexcept toward the end where the main villain wanted to nuke the island with everyone on it because he lost a Pokemon battle.
you can save at any point instead of only at PCs
Removed a few areas such as The Under
and of course a way larger selection of shadow pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 10:05:47 No.54448895 Report

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>>54448166
>an
I hope a translation team that actually knows English.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 10:07:10 No.54448899 Report

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>>54448612
Ah gotcha.
>The Under being removed
That sounds meh. That was a nice implementation of a town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 11:18:45 No.54449133 Report

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>>54448166
Addition of wild pokemon.
I would also say more shadow pokemon change forms similar to Lugia and Mewtwo, but given that you are talking about a Colosseum remake, it wouldn't make sense.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 12:55:43 No.54449524 Report

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>>54448899
Considering the story went from a barely afult to a kid, I think it's more like "now son, don't go into creepy alleways or dark sewer tunnels. There's danger there". And the kid is like "ok mom, I won't".
Meanwhile, the MC of Coliseum goes to those places and basically say "could've you chosen a shittier and harder place to find you? Now give me what I want or I'll nuke this place".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:00:59 No.54449544 Report

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Add the cross-gen evos for the gen 2 pokemon so it isn't shitmon central

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:01:07 No.54449545 Report

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>>54448197
Don't know about optional doubles considering that many of the NPC opponents has teams made with doubles in mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:01:51 No.54449547 Report

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>>54449524
Ah fair point. The NPCs in that game were pretty solid in portrayal with the Region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:15:31 No.54449587 Report

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>people complaining game is to slow for me because I am an impatient zoomer
No thanks. I like the game exactly how it is, just update the type chart and movesets and improve the visuals. Maybe increase the amount of wild pokemon you can find in XD.
The purification process is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:16:51 No.54449594 Report

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>>54449587
The game speed is fine on it's own, but the animation for fainting and the time for Pokemon to return to their idle position combined stretched the game duration is jarring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:18:51 No.54449605 Report

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>>54449594
I don’t care for the opinions of people that complain about things like that. Sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:22:27 No.54449625 Report

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>>54448166
I don't know what they could change without dampering the experience too much.
Adding more story content, cross gen evos and holodisc battles from XD would be cool.

Honestly, an update to movesets would be enough for me since we got a lot of new tools for doubles since gen 3.
With up to date learnset, most mons would be much better already and the game easier at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:23:43 No.54449630 Report

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>>54448166
Is Masuda even in charge of these things?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 13:24:08 No.54449633 Report

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>>54449625
The update on Movesets sounds reasonable enough. I wonder if the triple format might make a few rounds here and there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 14:02:36 No.54449767 Report

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>>54449633
Yeah, like Ledian could at the very least use Struggle Bug now, Dunsparce could also be valuable with Hyper Drill and Coil, or even Yanma/Yanmega now that it learns relevant moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 14:04:05 No.54449777 Report

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>>54448166
Colosseum would want some of the heart opening QoL from >XD probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 14:07:51 No.54449790 Report

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The Purification process definitely is in some dire need of an overhaul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 14:24:19 No.54449865 Report

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>>54449524
So why would you want it removed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 14:29:27 No.54449892 Report

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>>54448197
>Making doubles optional
stopped reading there
fucking kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 15:06:57 No.54450102 Report

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>>54448190
This anon summoned it up well enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 18:45:15 No.54451401 Report

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Make Shadow Lugia an actual Pokemon.
I know it was introduced in XD, but Colosseum is way better in terms of atmosphere compared to XD imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 18:53:08 No.54451469 Report

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>>54451401
Pyrite was honestly a good vibe.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 19:01:42 No.54451533 Report

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>>54451469
Pyrite is great.

Realgam Tower, I would love to see in higher definition.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 19:02:53 No.54451538 Report

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>>54451533
Absolutely. Seeing that tower getting finished up was a pleasant surprise. I wished that throughout the travels through Orre you get to see the development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 19:08:51 No.54451582 Report

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>>54448166
In german Mirror B is called D Queen.
I think it's short for Drag Queen but the wiki say maybe it's short for Disco- or Dance Queen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 19:09:36 No.54451587 Report

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>>54451582
Disco Queen is more accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 21:51:58 No.54452680 Report

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>>54448166
I'd settle for re-introducing all the cut content you can view in the Cutting Room Floor. Missing Shadow mons like Kecleon, Magcargo, Wailmer, Porygon2 etc.That third pc box is empty for no reason whatsoever. It also needs virtual trainer room with all e-reader cards inside. Lastly, both Jirachi and Celebi distribution disc content. Celebi stuff is programmed inside the game already and disc itself acts like an IRL event item (like Eon ticket) to activate it. If you get enough pokécoupons you can also get a free masterball, pikachu holding light ball and a PP Max.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 22:02:54 No.54452772 Report

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>>54452680
>Cutting Room Floor.
I actually looked up the content and it's actually gud. Not sure why it got scrapped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 22:08:08 No.54452807 Report

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>>54452772
To make sure you had more reasons to buy FR and LG

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 22:18:50 No.54452873 Report

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>>54448166
The bike is cool but actual routes in between at least some of the areas that are close together would be nice.
Imagine the cool stuff they could make there, like the sandcastle in emerald, or maybe a canyon.
Also more Pokemon. It's kind of the appeal of the game that it only gives you shitmons at the start but there are so many more.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 22:22:22 No.54452886 Report

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Let me fuck Rui

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Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 22:47:48 No.54453037 Report

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>>54452772
Hell if I know, time constraints? Deadlines? Out of funds? Lack of communication between devs & top brass?

Just the e-reader stuff we didn't get in Gen3 is a whole lot. Check Bulbapedia for e-reader card section. RSE/FRLG would've gotten a whole lot of replayability. If Gamefreak didn't cut "Trainer Hill" customization and the Sootopolis "Battle Basement" from the international releases, Emerald would've easily be the best game of all time. I'm talking about a CUSTOMIZABLE BATTLE TOWER of up to 8 floors of 4 different categories. Along with various shiny mons. While Sootopolis Battle Basement having plethora of trainer cards to scan & fight with different themes & strategies.FR&LG would've gotten the same with Trainer Tower & Seven Island battle basement. All gone of course. If there's a project that can re-implement these things via wireless adapter mystery gift the way Goppier & friends implemented Eon Ticket for Emerald via mystery gift (at least the battle basement) then that would be nice.

Also check the SirToastyToes for VR trainer room general overview and DavoGato Archive (video named: Pokémon Colosseum - Accessing e-Reader Content on Physical NTSC Disk) for full gameplay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 23:55:21 No.54453461 Report

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>>54448166
More Shadow mons, expand on the idea of catchable wild mons from XD by increasing the ones you can find.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Sep 2023 23:56:21 No.54453470 Report

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>>54448197
>Making doubles optional.
>missing the point this hard
Die

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Anonymous Tue 12 Sep 2023 00:33:31 No.54453693 Report

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>>54448899
it was probably originally intended, just cut for time, since there's a unused location description for it that wasn't reused from colosseum

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