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Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2023 23:56:09 No.54469727 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54469745 >>54469754 >>54469759 >>54469776 >>54469821 >>54469894 >>54469910 >>54470093 >>54470102 >>54470592 >>54470718 >>54470991 >>54471268 >>54471797 >>54471821 >>54472165 >>54473466 >>54473474 >>54473496

>literally just murdered a guy because they were greedy
Are these the most canonically evil Pokemon in the series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2023 23:58:24 No.54469745 Report

Quoted By: >>54469834 >>54469937

>>54469727
ditto is a failed BOW
giratina molested a young cynthia
hypo kindnaps kids

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2023 23:59:16 No.54469754 Report

Quoted By: >>54473496

>>54469727
In main series yes. Not even any "pokedex entries are exaggerated" they just striaght up murdered a guy out of greed and were about to do the same for Ogerpon once revived.

Outside of that it's pretty much just Darkrai in PMD Explorers for wanting to cause total extinction to live in a living nightmare

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Sep 2023 23:59:49 No.54469759 Report

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>>54469727
Nah, but they are the most spiteful.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:01:07 No.54469776 Report

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>>54469727
Yes and are better for it. i like it cause Chien-Pao already has the DID NOTHING WRONG covered for the generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:06:55 No.54469821 Report

Quoted By: >>54469876 >>54470084 >>54472955

>>54469727
Well if you consider how in PLA any pokemon wants your blood no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:08:36 No.54469834 Report

Quoted By: >>54469884

>>54469745
>giratina molested a young cynthia
Pics or it didnt happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:12:30 No.54469876 Report

Quoted By: >>54472254

>>54469821
Let's be fair here, most mons still kinda mind their own business in PLA unless you actively seek them out, the Loyal 3 actively went and hunted down the foreigner and Ogrepon because they just heard about the masks. it is basically the difference of getting mauled due going in on a wild animals territory and getting murdered by burglars who wants your jewelry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:13:39 No.54469884 Report

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>>54469834
It didn't happen... but I still want to see pics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:15:11 No.54469894 Report

Quoted By: >>54470114

>>54469727
How can they be greedy if pokemon are just animals?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:18:20 No.54469910 Report

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>>54469727
Yes this is the first time a pokemon was portrayed as being evil and not misunderstood or acting by instinct. They knew what they were doing and didn't get redeemed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:23:01 No.54469937 Report

Quoted By: >>54470084 >>54470122 >>54470561 >>54472053 >>54473684

>>54469745
>ditto is a failed BOW
>giratina molested a young cynthia
>hypo kindnaps kids
all 3 of these are just fan-theory shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:30:10 No.54469986 Report

Quoted By: >>54470130 >>54472964

Could they at least have given these so called villains cooler designs? Imagine Getting killed by these chumps. How insulting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:45:08 No.54470084 Report

Quoted By: >>54470159

>>54469821
The Paras wanted to kill because they are violent bugshrooms, the Loyal Three however plotted a fucking murder.

>>54469937
Technically it was only a single Hypno kidnapping ONE child, but it did happen at least.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:47:24 No.54470093 Report

Quoted By: >>54470421

>>54469727
Nope, just regular Yokai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:48:11 No.54470102 Report

Quoted By: >>54470168

>>54469727
yveltal WILL eventually kill every living thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:49:43 No.54470114 Report

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>>54469894
that's the thing, pokemon aren't animals, skinfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:51:12 No.54470122 Report

Quoted By: >>54470159 >>54470561

>>54469937
The Hypno shit is from the mainline games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:51:57 No.54470130 Report

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>>54469986
I fucking love them they have a 3 stooges vibe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:53:00 No.54470142 Report

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The guy was Don Momotaro
It was justified

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:54:59 No.54470157 Report

Quoted By: >>54470185 >>54470194

So are they supposed to be villain archetypes you see in alot of cartoons and anime?
>Monkey is the mad scientist/brains
>Dog is the meathead
>Bird is the pretty boy snob

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:55:21 No.54470159 Report

Quoted By: >>54470561

>>54470084
>>54470122
shit forgot about the thing in FRLG

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:56:15 No.54470168 Report

Quoted By: >>54470182 >>54470185 >>54470188 >>54470203

>>54470102
Not if Zygarde maintains the order

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:58:20 No.54470182 Report

Quoted By: >>54470266

>>54470168
>Zygarde literally doing it for free
heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:58:52 No.54470185 Report

Quoted By: >>54470266 >>54470330

>>54470157
I think they are just supposed to be the Doronbogang, the only real hitch is the Male-lock on the bird.

>>54470168
>Zygarde
>Doing its job on time
>Ever
LOL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:59:11 No.54470188 Report

Quoted By: >>54470266

>>54470168
cant even maintain his own game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 00:59:47 No.54470194 Report

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>>54470157
It's the Doronbo trope except the Lady Doronjo expy is a femboy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:00:46 No.54470203 Report

Quoted By: >>54470266

>>54470168
Who?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:08:42 No.54470266 Report

Quoted By: >>54471201

>>54470182
>>54470185
>>54470188
>>54470203
>D-DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING OF M-ME WHEN IT'S THE END TIMES!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:18:15 No.54470330 Report

Quoted By: >>54470411

>>54470185
>Doronbo
Honestly I thought of these three immediately instead, considering the gender lock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:25:59 No.54470411 Report

Quoted By: >>54473179

>>54470330
>gets killed off in the manga
>lives in the anime
Sailor Moon was really full of disparity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:27:00 No.54470421 Report

Quoted By: >>54470546

>>54470093
they're not yokai they're fairy tale characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:47:53 No.54470546 Report

Quoted By: >>54470602

>>54470421
so they're yokai then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:50:34 No.54470561 Report

Quoted By: >>54471250

>>54469937
>>54470122
>>54470159
We really dont know what Hypno's intentions were there, Lostelle was lost and Hypno just happened to show up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:55:44 No.54470592 Report

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>>54469727
I was expecting them to be cunts given how this was probably always intended to be a subverted Momotaro story but did anyone expect the Lousy Three to be THIS deranged?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 01:58:09 No.54470602 Report

Quoted By: >>54470872 >>54470914

>>54470546
not all fairy tale characters are yokai anon
they're literally just a talking dog/bird/monkey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 02:11:36 No.54470665 Report

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I read someone's theory that the purple hoops they have are actually chains, like they were criminals or something. Idk who'd chain a nigga by his forehead though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 02:22:58 No.54470718 Report

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>>54469727
I call 'em the 'Asshole Trio'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 02:44:39 No.54470872 Report

Quoted By: >>54471679

>>54470602
and they are also yokai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 02:50:35 No.54470914 Report

Quoted By: >>54471679

>>54470602
I'm pretty sure a supernaturally trio of talking animals would fall under yokai even if they aren't literal shapeshifting monsters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 03:02:57 No.54470991 Report

Quoted By: >>54471256 >>54471890 >>54473534

>>54469727
It's hard to say if they're genuinely evil or if they've been corrupted, the Scarlet Pokedex entries all say their Toxic Chains are the source of their enhanced attributes, and the blurbs from when you go after them as Titan Pokemon imply they were normal Pokemon who all had desires (Wisdom, Power, Beauty) for attributes they lacked until something changed them.
I'm willing to bet the Toxic Chains are a creation of the Tera Crystals that drove them all bad, much like how Turo/Sada go insane as they pursue their own desires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 03:47:54 No.54471201 Report

Quoted By: >>54471320

>>54470266
Cool.
Fug is bored and will do the job for fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 03:56:58 No.54471250 Report

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>>54470561
The Pokedex give a pretty clear idea what its intentions are:

> When it is very hungry, it puts humans it meets to sleep, then it feasts on their dreams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 03:58:12 No.54471256 Report

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>>54470991
Also their hidden abilities being Guard Dog, Frisk, and Technician.
Maybe their good forms will have that Sentai look like the festival masks,

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 03:59:03 No.54471261 Report

Quoted By: >>54471663 >>54471697 >>54472277

Actually, I just fucking realized something. All the legendaries we've had in this gen so far have been responsible for death in one fashion or another.
>The Second Koraidon/Miraidon that mauled the original professer for intervening in their fight
>The Loyal Three murdered Ogerpon's friend just to steal her masks
>Ogerpon herself beat the Loyal Three to death with a club
What the fuck is he gonna do? Murder Kieran?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 03:59:08 No.54471263 Report

Quoted By: >>54471675

Why didn't Arceus banish them to the Distortion World?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 03:59:57 No.54471268 Report

Quoted By: >>54471663

>>54469727
Are they legendarys or mythicals

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 04:10:51 No.54471320 Report

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>>54471201

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 05:30:27 No.54471663 Report

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>>54471261
>What the fuck is he gonna do?
It's not what he's going to do - it's what he's already done.
>>54471268
If you are guaranteed to encounter them on every playthrough and don't need an event/code to obtain them, then it's a Legendary. Mythicals are event-only exclusives. Since you'll always meet these three (and Ogerpon) on every playthrough of the DLC, even if you reset your data, they're clearly just Legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 05:33:02 No.54471675 Report

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>>54471263
Because then Giratina would have friends, and can't let that happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 05:34:13 No.54471679 Report

Quoted By: >>54471794

>>54470914
>>54470872
yokai aren't just whatever shit you put, they have specific names. talking animals are just typical talking animals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 05:39:57 No.54471697 Report

Quoted By: >>54471724

>>54471261
The Ruinous Quartet also are pretty directly connected to death

And the crystals in the Crystal Pool which are clearly the same kind of Crystal as the type connected to Terastalization are said to allow communication with the dead

Then you have the Ruinous Quartet who are literally warped, twisted human souls given form to bring ruin upon the world, and The Paradox Pokemon themselves could cause mass death and devastation if they got out en masse due to how brutal and unnatural they are

I predict the turtle is some sort of Pokemon Eldritch thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 05:46:46 No.54471724 Report

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>>54471697
Did I seriously lose my train of thought so fast that I mentioned the Ruinous Quartet twice?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 06:10:44 No.54471794 Report

Quoted By: >>54472044

>>54471679
>yokai aren't just whatever shit you put, they have specific names. talking animals are just typical talking animals.
>kitsune are literally just foxes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 06:12:24 No.54471797 Report

Quoted By: >>54471919

>>54469727
They're the neutral evil to the treasure of ruin chaotic evilness. They literally shaped some of the land masses in Paldea with their destruction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 06:22:12 No.54471821 Report

Quoted By: >>54471886

>>54469727
Correction needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 06:41:00 No.54471886 Report

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>>54471821
Don't do it anon! They'll badly poison your wiener!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 06:41:31 No.54471890 Report

Quoted By: >>54471919 >>54473558 >>54473648

>>54470991
Most curiously their Pokédex category is the Retainer Pokémon, as in a vassal or servant. Furthermore they also arrived to Kitakami from a distant land like Ogerpon and her original trainer. Who the hell is their master?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 06:51:26 No.54471917 Report

Quoted By: >>54473390

>the evil themed legendaries of S/V has been some of the outright most either born from evil, or just plain evil fuckers in the entire franchise
>also has the most bopping and playful themes of the S/V
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tst-2z7420w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsIS9695K9M

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 06:52:13 No.54471919 Report

Quoted By: >>54471953 >>54472073 >>54472217 >>54473558

>>54471797
The Treasures are basically the victims though aside from the fish.

>>54471890
Probably the Paldean Emperor if the timeline matches since we know he was collecting valuable foreign shit AND was a fucking asshole, makes sense he could sent them after hearing about the VALUABLE AND PRETTY Foreign Masks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 06:57:53 No.54471930 Report

Quoted By: >>54472074

I wonder if there’s a secret legendary that isn’t Terapagos. Considering that Indigo Disk is inspired by Urashima Taro. Terapagos would represent the turtle that Taro saved/took to the underwater Dragon Palace. So maybe there’s a Pokemon representing the Dragon King in that story

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:04:51 No.54471953 Report

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>>54471919
They still caused massive amounts of destruction either in an ignorant way or a chaotic way which got a lot of people killed. They weren't sealed for nothing like the Regis which people just feared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:25:07 No.54472044 Report

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>>54471794
kitsune are kitsune anon, with complete lore about them
there is no "generic yokai dog/monkey/pheasant", they are literally characters from a folk tale

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:27:52 No.54472053 Report

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>>54469937
hypno does kidnap people, but of course porn addicts automatically think it means rape when it's just to keep them as its food supply (they eat dreams)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:33:16 No.54472073 Report

Quoted By: >>54472110 >>54473067

>>54471919
The dex even makes it clear that they are chaotic evil fuckers

Wo-Chein - Drains the life out of vegetation, killing all plant life in an area and as such causes death by mass famine
Chien-Pao - Frolics in avalanches it causes, and can control 100 tons of snow to create said avalanches
Ting-Lu - Casually creates large fissures which... Admittedly is the lamest of the three considering Earthquake and Fissure are moves found all over the place
Chi-Yu - The fish you mentioned

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:33:26 No.54472074 Report

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>>54471930
what do you think kieran is going to be releasing to achieve his power at the very end of the two dlcs? it's very obviously going to be the "calyrex shadow/ice rider" of this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:41:44 No.54472110 Report

Quoted By: >>54472134 >>54472148 >>54472162 >>54472561

>>54472073
>Chi-Yu
What's the lore behind the Treasures Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:48:02 No.54472134 Report

Quoted By: >>54472162

>>54472110
they were treasures that were passed from person to person until the greedy king of Paldea bought them. Eventually all the malice and hated that they carried on them turned them into Pokemon and they destroyed the castle and got loose

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:50:55 No.54472148 Report

Quoted By: >>54472162

>>54472110

Wo-Chein is the incarnation of a person's grudge over being punished for writing down the king's misdeeds on the tablets that make up its shell

Chien-Pao is the incarnation of the hate of those slain by the sword that makes up its fangs

Ting-Lu is the incarnation of the fear poured into an ancient vessel

Chi-Yu is the incarnation of envy caused by the very beads that make up its eyes, said beads sparking multiple wars

Basically, in any RPG, those would all be considered pretty evil, and not victims

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:54:51 No.54472162 Report

Quoted By: >>54472167 >>54472170 >>54472175

>>54472110
>>54472134
>>54472148
Also The King of Paldea, specifically being as evil and greedy as he was, was the catalyst for the Treasures turning into Pokemon. He must have been a pretty evil bastard too considering that Wo-Chien was created from the grudge of a single man and the record of the king's misdeeds

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:56:21 No.54472165 Report

Quoted By: >>54472179

>>54469727
why is the pokemon world such a dangerous shithole

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:56:53 No.54472167 Report

Quoted By: >>54472204

>>54472162
Well I think the tablets were from way before the king of Paldea got them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:57:48 No.54472170 Report

Quoted By: >>54472204

>>54472162
the items were already cursed before the king bought them you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 07:58:22 No.54472175 Report

Quoted By: >>54472181 >>54472204

>>54472162
Somebody else also pointed out that the Loyal Three are the Retainer Pokemon and that they very well could have been the King's own personal Pokemon, sent to retrieve rare treasures (since why else would they be called the Retainer Pokemon?)

So if that's the case, then one of the misdeeds was sending out those three Pokemon despite their propensity to murder

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:00:03 No.54472179 Report

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>>54472165
People who want to live there think it's all cool because, "Well if a kid can save the world", forgetting that the kid we play as tends to be a prodigy and that real life battles would be FAR more complicated than, "Pick super effective move and win"

The Pokemon World is basically a hellhole wrapped up in kiddy friendly packaging

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:00:13 No.54472181 Report

Quoted By: >>54472197 >>54472223

>>54472175
What would they have been before transforming?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:02:48 No.54472197 Report

Quoted By: >>54472207

>>54472181
A weak dog, a dumb ass monkey, and a pheasant that some of /vp/ is convinced is FtM because Pokemon need to follow real life rules for bird plumage, apparently

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:04:29 No.54472204 Report

Quoted By:

>>54472167
bamboo/wooden tablets were a fairly common writing implement in ancient china. the king probably bought them as a novelty but thats headcanon
>>54472170
Cursed yes, but not Pokemon
>>54472175
That would be interesting I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:04:39 No.54472207 Report

Quoted By: >>54472219

>>54472197
But it doesn't look like a male pheasant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:05:46 No.54472217 Report

Quoted By: >>54472360

>>54471919
>The mask maker was Kieran great-great-great-great-great-grandfather
>this means it happened approximately 200 years ago
>Heath expedition was 200 years ago
The timeline is a tad suspicious

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:06:10 No.54472219 Report

Quoted By: >>54472241

>>54472207
It is 100% male

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:06:33 No.54472223 Report

Quoted By: >>54472241 >>54472255

>>54472181
The map blurbs present when they scatter around Kitakami as Titan Pokemon offer brief folklore that basically describes them as ordinary Pokemon who completely lack the traits that they became famous for, but greatly desired to achieve them.
If they truly are the king's retainers, it's entirely possible he could have manipulated them into joining his side by promising to grant them what they sought. Of course, this was achieved through the Toxic Chains they all wear, which presumably caused the trio to become just as vile as him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:09:16 No.54472241 Report

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>>54472219
Well people that obsess over trannies are just as mentally ill as the trannies so just ignore them

>>54472223
You know those designs are pretty Japanese in origin though, especially the monkey Maybe they were loyal and unchanged until getting to Poke Japan before something changed them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:13:13 No.54472254 Report

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>>54469876
>Ogrepon
Ogerpon*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:13:17 No.54472255 Report

Quoted By: >>54472275 >>54472284

>>54472223
Does ANYTHING in the DLC explain how the hell they pulled off becoming titans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:19:38 No.54472275 Report

Quoted By: >>54472289

>>54472255
It's heavily implied they were drawing power from the Tera Crystals in the masks they held, which is actually a viable source considering Tera Raid Den Pokemon are unnaturally large until they've been subdued.

Mother series moment

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Mother series moment Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:19:39 No.54472277 Report

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>>54471261
>>Ogerpon herself beat the Loyal Three to death with a club
Funniest thing I read this week ngl

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:20:31 No.54472284 Report

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>>54472255
The herbs that the villagers fed them. Learn to read

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:22:34 No.54472289 Report

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>>54472275
That makes sense, unlike 54472284 since nothing implies the food the villagers fed them had Herba Mystica properties

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:44:31 No.54472360 Report

Quoted By: >>54472425

>>54472217
Don't forget that it was Ogerpon's original trainer who brought the Tera gems the mask maker used to make the mask, so it was likely he was from Paldea. Maybe Ogerpon originally was from Area Zero

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:50:07 No.54472384 Report

Quoted By: >>54472390

They haven't exactly hidden the fact that Briar's going to be evil as fuck once the second DLC hits. They always reveal too quickly with the NPCs eyes. Just like how people figured out Hastel was a dragon trainer upon first view of his eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:53:29 No.54472390 Report

Quoted By: >>54472403

>>54472384
It wasn't even the eyes that did it for me. Just her general silhouette made me go, "Yeah she'd stab me if it meant getting what she wants"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 08:56:59 No.54472403 Report

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>>54472390
Not to mention that she's Heath's descendent. If there was one major lesson to learn from Teal Mask was "history may not be what it seems to be" and Briar keeps making note about how unjustly ostracized Heath was. Perhaps the lesson here was, there was a just reason as to why he was ostracized and Heath's story is the invert of the story in Teal Mask.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 09:05:57 No.54472425 Report

Quoted By: >>54472472

>>54472360
>Don't forget that it was Ogerpon's original trainer who brought the Tera gems the mask maker used to make the mask
I don't think the outsider had the gems, I don't remember reading that ogerpon trainer handed the crystals to the mask maker to make the masks it was the mask maker that had them and put them in the masks as ornaments

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 09:18:56 No.54472472 Report

Quoted By: >>54472487

>>54472425
>"He made several masks for the man and the ogre"
>"The masks were brilliant works, adorned with gems the man brought from somewhere far away"
I thought it was the trainer rather than the mask maker since he was usually referred to as "the man"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 09:24:49 No.54472487 Report

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>>54472472
Probably a language thing, I guess I'll need to read it again to figure it out better

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 09:47:04 No.54472561 Report

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>>54472110
They themselves are innocent but highly dangerous pokemon.
They were sealed within 4 treasures instead of pokeballs and somehow ended up in the hands of the Paldean King thanks to a not!Chinese merchant.
The King used them to commit attrocities until his servants started to bteray him one by one breaking the sealing items thus freeing the pokemon.
>Wo chien was freed when the kings scribe damaged the Tablets of Lies by writing down the kings crimes and the truth behind them.
>Chien Pao was freed when the sword of Hatred which was used for wanton murder and executions by the King got broken in half.
>Ting Lu broke free when the Bowl of Fear used for blood sacrifices got cracked.
>Chi Yu was never fully contained in the Beeds of Envy and given how flashy and powerful it is others started to desire it trying to use it as a claim to the throne.

My theory is that the Beeds of Envy were forged from discarded Misdreavus jewels which are supposed to glow and feed the pokemon by absorbing negative emotions.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 11:26:21 No.54472955 Report

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>>54469821
In Pla pokemon and humans live in fear of eachother because of giratina.
It made raging alphas that killed people

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 11:28:04 No.54472964 Report

Quoted By: >>54472985 >>54473455

>>54469986
They have a lot of personality in game.
Monkidori is brains, Okidoki is Brawler and Fanphesit is a proud damsel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 11:33:26 No.54472981 Report

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Keiran will wish to be stronger and then become max nen style Gon and kill his sister

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 11:35:38 No.54472985 Report

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>>54472964
its the brains, the brawn, and the bishonen, a classic villain trio

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 11:59:34 No.54473067 Report

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>>54472073
They are not evil. Their being just creates suffering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 12:22:23 No.54473179 Report

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>>54470411
The 90's anime really liked redeeming villains for some reason, it was weird.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:09:45 No.54473390 Report

Quoted By: >>54473400

>>54471917
Still can't listen to the Ruins' theme without TUNAK TUNAK

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:11:23 No.54473400 Report

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>>54473390
that one version where he keyed it correctly is so genuinely good though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:24:26 No.54473455 Report

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>>54472964
>muh personality
Is giving them "personality""""", and making them not look like shit mutually exclusive?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:26:20 No.54473466 Report

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>>54469727
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:29:16 No.54473474 Report

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>>54469727
whoever designed this and the new ursaring need to be fired

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:34:20 No.54473496 Report

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>>54469727
>>54469754
>Believing ogre lies

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:45:02 No.54473534 Report

Quoted By: >>54473576 >>54473820

>>54470991
I think the story might be a weird reverse Wizard of Oz on some level.

Scarecrow, Tinman, Lion = Want Brains, Heart, Courage
Munkidori, Fezandipity, Okidogi = Want Brains, Beauty, Strength

Wizard of Oz = Important figure who hides behind a giant green head
Ogerpon = Important figure who hides behind a (sometimes) giant green mask

If you want to be really autistic you could say Carmine's Poochyena is Toto, but I think that's just incidental. I'm not sure what the reason behind the Wizard of Oz theme would be (if it's intentional), maybe some kind of association between the Emerald City and the crystals in Area Zero?

>Wizard of AZ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:48:37 No.54473558 Report

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>>54471890
>>54471919
Nobunaga Momotaro pokemon soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 13:52:18 No.54473576 Report

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>>54473534
someone's getting crushed by a house

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 14:06:25 No.54473630 Report

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>>54473496
Blue monkey fingers typed this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 14:12:11 No.54473648 Report

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>>54471890
The other interesting thing is that they clearly have a trainer in the textbox when chasing Ogrepon in the signpost story, it is honestly pretty likely they had a trainer/wielder considering that and said wielder likely helped establishing the narrative Ogrepon so that they got to be the Heroes. And if they had atrainer then they too fall into "No bad poges only bad trainers ;_;" narrative.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 14:17:50 No.54473656 Report

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>>54473648
>And if they had atrainer then they too fall into "No bad poges only bad trainers ;_;" narrative.
Even if they were being led by a trainer, Pokemon are flash robots. If they went along with it, they were clearly fine with the prospect of stealing from and killing a guy.
Also, they went straight to fuck Ogerpon up the moment they got the masks back, so clearly their hands aren't clean either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 14:18:51 No.54473659 Report

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>>54473656
>are flash robots
AREN'T flesh robots

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 14:31:29 No.54473684 Report

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>>54469937
Hypno kidnapped Lostelle in the games and a bunch of kids in the anime

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 15:13:48 No.54473820 Report

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>>54473534
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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 15:16:07 No.54473830 Report

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>>54473820
I'm losing my fucking marbles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 15:21:40 No.54473852 Report

Quoted By: >>54473958 >>54473978 >>54474120

If they ever got additional members/different forms like the Beasts/Swords/Birds/Genies/Regis, what do you think they'd be like?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 15:44:45 No.54473958 Report

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>>54473852
An additional member I could see is a twisted take on Momotaro, either the trio's initial master before they came to Kitakami or the revived form of the hinted OG trainer. Maybe it could sport a Poison/Dark "delinquent gang leader" vibe alongside the obvious peach motif.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 15:49:33 No.54473978 Report

Quoted By: >>54474120

>>54473852
Probably their form before getting their wishes and chains and losing the poison type with it.

>Small weak Dogmon.
>Brainlet Monkey.
>Bird would be a Mimikyu situation where it has fully covered itself up with something because it feels it is so hideous.

For added pottery add in some additional theming so each have some obvious relation to what the Kitakami prayed to them for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 15:56:36 No.54474014 Report

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I want more full-on antagonist Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 16:18:33 No.54474120 Report

Quoted By: >>54474643

>>54473852
>>54473978
Some other entity related to those fucking chains, and if the next DLC doesn't explain it, maybe how it tied into the resurrection. Also noticed jut a lot of "magical" items in this gen, with the Masks, Chains, and Treasures

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 17:55:05 No.54474643 Report

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>>54474120
>Also noticed jut a lot of "magical" items in this gen, with the Masks, Chains, and Treasures
i mean, there's always been magical shit in pokemon
ruby/sapphire orbs to control the primal forces of land and sea
the red chain to bind the gods of time and space
the entire concept of the tapus is based on worship and magic
the sword/shield is literally just a dumbed down version of arthurian legends
it's never been as PRONOUNCED as magical as in S/V but it's always been there, but they've also never gone as deeply into the whole "unknown" aspect of pokemon as hard as this one by just basically refusing to give us the actual story of stuff like, area zero which we'll have to wait until post-second DLC to get answers on

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Anonymous Thu 14 Sep 2023 19:37:41 No.54475294 Report

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i must be fucking dumb because it just hit me that the dlcs are time-based too. teal mask deals with stuff in the past and very rural while indigo disk is going to be very futuristic.

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