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Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 19:29:45 No.54482196 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54482308 >>54482322 >>54482494 >>54482518 >>54482547 >>54485630 >>54487251 >>54487279 >>54487534 >>54487627 >>54487807

I'm saying this now, after Empoleon's sudden ability change, I predict Sceptile to have Sharpness as Hidden Ability and possibly reverse Attack with Sp.Attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 19:37:14 No.54482233 Report

Quoted By: >>54482268 >>54482283 >>54487310

Sharpness wouldn't even be close making sceptile viable. What it really wants is to keep unburden and learn belly drum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 19:41:56 No.54482268 Report

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>>54482233
Bonkers. It’s fucking broken even with that attack stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 19:44:25 No.54482283 Report

Quoted By: >>54482308

>>54482233
>It needs to be braindead to be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 19:49:51 No.54482308 Report

Quoted By: >>54482318 >>54482424

>>54482283
Unironically yes, have you see how broke the CHARIZARD forms are?
>>54482196
I’m surprise they didnt fix Sceptile already, They clearly live the Hoeen starters enough to give them megas, why would they take fan requests when buffing Sinnoh’s but leave sceptile as a shitmon, they clearly loved shilling it in the anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 19:51:16 No.54482318 Report

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>>54482308
None of the Charizard forms were broken. They were strong but completely fine for both Smogon singles and VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 19:51:46 No.54482322 Report

Quoted By: >>54482355

>>54482196
>possibly reverse Attack with Sp.Attack.
it really is a shame that they dont really do buffs/changes like this, at most it feels like i should be asking for a better special movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 19:56:40 No.54482355 Report

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>>54482322
I think Sceptile being a shillmon and all will get the chance.
Or at leadt most of the Sharpness boosted movepool like Sacred Sword

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:05:24 No.54482424 Report

Quoted By: >>54482458 >>54482474 >>54487407 >>54487475

>>54482308
Sceptile is definitely the most wronged Hoenn starter at least in the competitive scene.
>Mono Grass
>Special Attacker without useful Special moves and without Nasty Plot/Calm Mind... but with better useful physical moves with Swords Dance
>Unburden is a good ability for mons like Hawlucha but not for Sceptile. I will admit though that Sceptile has a Quick Attack/Endeavor moveset that is lit with Focus Sash.
>Mega Sceptile has Lightingrod which was predictable in fights and ultimately pointless because it's Grass/Dragon. Imagine Mega Sceptile with Contrary.
>Dragon Pulse and Dragon Claw sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:10:36 No.54482458 Report

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>>54482424
Sceptile also has Dragon Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:13:21 No.54482474 Report

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>>54482424
>Couldn't even get Draco when it had its mega because it wasnt part dragon in regular gameplay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:18:26 No.54482494 Report

Quoted By: >>54482564 >>54482737

>>54482196
Why is it always speed starter fags who say the stupidest fucking shit? I really don’t understand why sceptile needs a change when his statline already works with his ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:23:45 No.54482518 Report

Quoted By: >>54485310

>>54482196
>gen has 2 physical attacking starters, one is slow and the other has middling speed with speed boost
>both CLEARLY LEAN to being physical attackers based on their design
>anon says sceptile needs to change to be a physical attacker too because of leaf blade
Retarded, you people are fucking stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:27:38 No.54482547 Report

Quoted By: >>54484163

>>54482196
Just give it more special moves and nasty plot, then Sceptile might be called buffed mon. Torterra was given only shell smash and it's one of the better grass starters now. I think about grass starters, top 3 for worst starters are: Meganium, Sceptile and Decidueye (both forms)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:30:50 No.54482564 Report

Quoted By: >>54482635

>>54482494
It's just his movepool's fault.
85 Attack with:
>Swords Dance, Leaf Blade, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Drain Punch, Acrobatics, Outrage, Dragon Claw, Night Slash, ThunderPunch, X-Scissors

105 Sp.Attack with:
>Leaf Storm, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Dragon Pulse, Focus Miss...thats it.

It needs better Special moves or reverse Attack/Sp.Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:41:10 No.54482635 Report

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>>54482564
Earth Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 20:45:55 No.54482658 Report

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Sceptile with Shed Tail?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Sep 2023 21:00:21 No.54482737 Report

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>>54482494
>his statline already works with his ability
Nah, all the good Unburden users are physical attackers that can combine it with Acrobatics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 00:55:05 No.54484163 Report

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>>54482547
Hisuian Decidueye is above those starters for having an actual useful ability + spammable signature move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 04:44:20 No.54485310 Report

Quoted By: >>54485353 >>54487550

>>54482518
Gen 1's starters are all special-oriented, so it wouldn't be anything unheard of

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 04:53:40 No.54485353 Report

Quoted By: >>54485377

>>54485310
Only Venusaur was special-oriented (100 special). Blastiose was defense oriented (100 defense ), and Charizard was speed (100 speed ). Charizard only became Special-oriented when it got 109 special attack in Gen 2 (boosted from 85 special)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 04:58:41 No.54485377 Report

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>>54485353
They're all special attackers, genius

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 05:49:39 No.54485601 Report

Quoted By: >>54487413 >>54487490 >>54488888

i don't like them changing abilities; for example what if someone named their pokemon in a way relating to its ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 05:54:39 No.54485630 Report

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>>54482196
They'll just do an ability change.
Only regional/alternate forms get drastic stat differences like swapped numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 13:59:39 No.54487251 Report

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>>54482196
Smogon, this things role is fast grass type. Empoleon having Definat was different because it was annoying in playtesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:07:44 No.54487279 Report

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>>54482196
It’s over..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:12:41 No.54487310 Report

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>>54482233
For the sub belly drum—this is breloom

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:16:06 No.54487321 Report

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EVERYBODY! SMOGON SWEEP CLAUSE IS UP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:32:04 No.54487407 Report

Quoted By:

>>54482424
Do you know how weak coverage moves are with 105 Special Attack on mono grass type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:33:45 No.54487413 Report

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>>54485601
>what if some autist named a pokémon based on an ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:51:24 No.54487475 Report

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>>54482424
>Contrary Mega Sceptile
Have you heard of Serperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:55:26 No.54487490 Report

Quoted By: >>54487519 >>54488703

>>54485601
You have autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:02:09 No.54487519 Report

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>>54487490
I have reading capabilities. Need help with the bTall towerv

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:05:02 No.54487534 Report

Quoted By:

>>54482196
What if throat spray but an item ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:07:45 No.54487550 Report

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>>54485310
Venusaur and Charizard both run physical sets sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:08:47 No.54487556 Report

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Surely Gamefreak knows sharing an ability is called a family. Thus sharing traits. Make no mistake this isn’t Ttar Unnerve or corvicuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:16:47 No.54487595 Report

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Actual dexcut mon since Gen V

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:20:40 No.54487612 Report

Quoted By: >>54487711

>Growth needs +4 not 3 for it to be good
This is why you’re gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:23:31 No.54487627 Report

Quoted By: >>54487716

>>54482196
All mons should have 2 hidden abilities like in Clover

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:26:47 No.54487644 Report

Quoted By: >>54487654

>Leaf Storm -1
And/
>Leaf Storm dragon energy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:29:04 No.54487654 Report

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>>54487644
I’m still a special attacker Master WTF!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:39:24 No.54487711 Report

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>>54487612
Growth fix with to gain boost in sun was really good idea. wish calm mind worked in rain like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:40:25 No.54487716 Report

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>>54487627
Hidden abilities should not exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:41:59 No.54487724 Report

Quoted By: >>54488938

I think they were only willing to change Empoleon because Defiant and Competitive are basically the same ability, just with different stats. Unburden is too unique to change since you build entire sets around it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 16:02:42 No.54487807 Report

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>>54482196
just give her tail glow bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:32:03 No.54488703 Report

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>>54487490
yes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:56:35 No.54488888 Report

Quoted By: >>54488938

>>54485601
i think changing abilities is fine if the ability they're changing is shit and it's still thematic (early bird to wind rider on shiftry). who was using early bird on shiftry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:03:43 No.54488938 Report

Quoted By: >>54489077

>>54488888
Good point, and pretty much disproves this: >>54487724
They are willing to make dramatic changes to hidden abilities for the sake of theming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:22:14 No.54489077 Report

Quoted By: >>54489132

>>54488938
Early Bird is a useless outdated ability that doesn't change how a Pokemon functions like Unburden does, it's hardly the same thing. Shiftry also has 3 ability slots, one of the problem with starters is that they're limited to one "normal" ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:31:19 No.54489132 Report

Quoted By: >>54489146 >>54489374

>>54489077
agree sceptile doesn't need an ability change. also i don't think Gamefreak would be willing to give all the starters a second ability. if anything, they should change the hidden abilities for starters like samurott or meganium. their HAs are just a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:32:55 No.54489146 Report

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>>54489132
i forgot about swampert. damp is so useless. why does it still have that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 20:04:49 No.54489374 Report

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>>54489132
For Samurott I expect Supreme Overlord replacing Shell Armor in the future since the ability increases both offensive stats, and Kingambit doesn't make use of the special attack boost.

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