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>>54486170
> 0 atk
Anon, why? Nobody uses swagger anymore, seeing a confused Pokémon in competitive nowadays is like finding a shiny as how rare it became.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 09:55:33 No.54486367 Report

Quoted By: >>54486419

>>54486324
Zapdos and Pelipper are sometimes used and run Hurricane

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 10:00:12 No.54486390 Report

Quoted By: >>54486400 >>54486475

>>54486170
>>54486216
>70 attack
>120 defense
if you're ever in a situation where your victory hinges solely on how much damage foul play does to your bloodmoon ursaluna, you might just be a shit player fighting another shit player

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 10:01:57 No.54486400 Report

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>>54486390
forgot about confusion, which is a slightly more understandable situation, but the chances of the amount of confusion damage you get killing a game for you is so close to zero that it's stupid to care that much about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 10:05:48 No.54486419 Report

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>>54486367
Just fucking switch if you care that much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 10:18:48 No.54486475 Report

Quoted By: >>54486825

>>54486390
What kind of retarded logic is this?

>uh well if you're a truly skilled player you'll use no EVs, bad natures and have shit stats on purpose

If you can't understand how having optimal stats for damage reduction is important then you're the one who is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 10:44:51 No.54486602 Report

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>>54486170
I got minspeed without needing to soft reset and rolled with it. I don't need 0 ATK.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 11:28:15 No.54486757 Report

Quoted By: >>54486765 >>54486797 >>54487551 >>54487605 >>54489060

>>54486170
Here, now stop crying
>uggghhh but I just wanna gen
stop cheating

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 11:33:25 No.54486765 Report

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>>54486757
>brings up genning out of nowhere
Meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 11:45:30 No.54486797 Report

Quoted By: >>54486807

>>54486757
>3 guaranteed IVs, need RNG to ensure neither are attack nor speed
>then have to roll a zero in both of these stats

i don't envy you tards, anyone know the %chance of rolling this ursaluna?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 11:47:22 No.54486799 Report

Quoted By: >>54488207 >>54488831

>>54486170
Why is it a special attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 11:50:58 No.54486803 Report

Quoted By:

Just inject it :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 11:52:28 No.54486807 Report

Quoted By: >>54486861 >>54487037

>>54486797
1/16 for 0/1 att * 1/16 for 0/1 speed * 3/6 for att not being set to 31 * 2/5 for speed not being set to 31 = 1/1280

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 11:59:42 No.54486825 Report

Quoted By: >>54486914

>>54486475
>nononono you don't wanna reduce your damage by two points in the three niche situations where it would ever be relevant, that means you wanna play with the rest of your build being dogshit!!!!!!
are you fucking stupid?
my point was that there are so few situations that having 0 Attack IVs on a special attacker is ever going to affect the flow of battle that you'd have to be making absolutely shitty plays to get to that point, and in the time you're spending obsessing over nothing you could be working toward building more team members and actually playing the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:06:44 No.54486848 Report

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>>54486170
Red head redemption lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:10:35 No.54486861 Report

Quoted By: >>54486883

>>54486807
>0.0008%
>3+ minutes between each check with arbilova

this is diablo 2 tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:15:31 No.54486883 Report

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>>54486861
But bro, imagine how worth it will be. You're taking like..... 6 less Foul Play damage on a high roll!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:17:42 No.54486889 Report

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>>54486170
Listen to me:
>Catch this bigboss looking motherfucker
>trade it locally to another Switch which is modded, if it is yours: BINGO\
>or ask a friend who owns one
>use PKHex to change the IVs to zero, use the check to make sure
>Trade it back, if you never connect online you should be safe
The Rusty caps should've been a thing when they made stakataka, until then don't waste your time and give them the middle finger
>THTAP CHEATING
shut up, nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:25:21 No.54486914 Report

Quoted By: >>54486994

>>54486825
What on earth has reducing damage from certain attacks got to do with making shitty plays? It's always possible for any Pokemon to take an attack from any move, you're not making any sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:50:34 No.54486994 Report

Quoted By: >>54487362

>>54486914
if you're keeping up the momentum and reading your opponent properly you can more reliably counter and take them out instead of making blunders and taking enough steady damage that the only thing that can save you is taking one or two less points of damage from a confusion proc. not to say you can't be playing well and still get screwed over by that, but the chances of it happening with that are ridiculously low and there's little point in investing days of your life grinding away at a single stat just to prepare for the small possibility.
and no one's using foul play against a bloodmoon ursa unless they have no idea how the game works, so if you lose in that situation, it's 100% a skill issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 12:57:14 No.54487019 Report

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You will never be world champ anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 13:03:42 No.54487037 Report

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>>54486807
You don’t need 0 atk, 6-11 is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 13:05:13 No.54487043 Report

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Why don't they used mon with own tempo then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:02:03 No.54487257 Report

Quoted By:

>>54486170
>Ursaluna is not weak to dark
>Ursaluna is not a physical attacker
In what situations would your opponent be using foul play on ursaluna? Just reset for 0 spd its the only stat it actually cares about

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:07:24 No.54487277 Report

Quoted By: >>54487289 >>54487301 >>54488767

You absolutely want 0 Attack on Trick Room abusers, every opponent is going to rely on Amogus to slow down TR and its only attacking move is Foul Play

You people are just the worst at every single format

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:09:43 No.54487289 Report

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>>54487277
Nobody runs foul play amoongus, they use pollen puff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:11:12 No.54487301 Report

Quoted By:

>>54487277
people who are frequent 4chan posters aren't the brightest
that's why they are 4chan posters, they need a mask to hide their stupid shit talking points

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:16:12 No.54487322 Report

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>>54486170
make sure to bring a lead pokemon with 79 speed exactly. that means if you attack first Ursaluna can only have 0 or 1 EV (makes no difference at level 50), and you can soft reset immediately if Ursaluna outspeeds you

(don't forget to double check afterwards in case you actually managed to catch a 79 speed Ursaluna. you want 77 or 78, and ursaluna will only ever have a Hardy nature)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 14:24:12 No.54487362 Report

Quoted By: >>54488698 >>54490987

>>54486994
>have Pokemon that takes a lot from Foul Play
>switch into (anything)
>it takes Foul Play damage
It's not complicated

Also Strength Sap is another move affected by attack IV which is becoming increasingly common with Brambleghast and now Sinistcha. Acting like all these niche scenarios aren't ever relevant sounds like coping for an excuse not to need to be optimal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:04:30 No.54487532 Report

Quoted By: >>54487538

>>54486170
It's not like you have anything better to be doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:06:00 No.54487538 Report

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>>54487532
My cock's not gonna jerk itself to Ogerpon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:07:57 No.54487551 Report

Quoted By:

>>54486757
I can understand resetting for the 0 speed IV but this is absolute insanity going through all this shit for a fucking 0 atk IV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:09:16 No.54487558 Report

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It'd be pretty funny if Blursaluna turns out to not even be good in the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:12:29 No.54487576 Report

Quoted By: >>54487690 >>54490615

>>54486216
In gen 3 tournaments contenders didn’t even have full 31 IVs. The only reason why being "optimal" has become necessary is because of cheaters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:13:41 No.54487580 Report

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>Spend hours, days, weeks resetting for some Pokemon
>Just play on Showdown anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:18:20 No.54487605 Report

Quoted By: >>54488222

>>54486757
>stop cheating
remove IVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:36:42 No.54487690 Report

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>>54487576
Because it was not viable to get perfect Pokemon then, now it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:48:54 No.54487746 Report

Quoted By: >>54487750 >>54488075

>>54486170
So what’s the deal with this Ursaluna? Why does it has a special form and why don’t they just called it a regional? And more importantly, can we expect more pokemon like this one in the future? I kinda like them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 15:50:47 No.54487750 Report

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>>54487746
>Why does it has a special form
lore reasons
>why don’t they just called it a regional
because it's one of a kind like Ash-Greninja and spiky-eared Pichu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 16:47:56 No.54488075 Report

Quoted By: >>54488187

>>54487746
>Why does it has a special form and why don’t they just called it a regional?
Well, does it need a reason? It's just a long lived, mutant ursaluna. As for why it isn't a regional form that's because it's just a regular ursaluna with a red mark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 16:57:59 No.54488137 Report

Quoted By: >>54488166

Guys gimme a set how to EV train Ursaluna for single battles. Do I just max HP and SpA and use it as wallbreaker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:02:09 No.54488166 Report

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>>54488137
Timid max speed outspeed Kingambit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:05:18 No.54488187 Report

Quoted By: >>54488197

>>54488075
>It's just a long lived, mutant ursaluna
I like this concept. Some pokemon are just mutated like that. I hope game freak will make more mons like this in the future

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:06:39 No.54488197 Report

Quoted By: >>54488215 >>54488230 >>54488799 >>54489224

>>54488187
>Here comes Bloodrage Charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:08:20 No.54488207 Report

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>>54486799
Makes sense. This form is centuries years old, so it gained more wisdom in the process

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:09:17 No.54488210 Report

Quoted By: >>54488226

>wasting your time getting 0 atk ivs on a pokemon that will never get hit by strength sap or foul play
>complaining that the game is actually forcing you to earn something as opposed to handing it out for free
If they do add an IV slider in the indigo dlc I fucking hope its cost is brutal because the game is just going to get worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:10:31 No.54488215 Report

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>>54488197
I actually thought that’s the direction they take when legend arceus come out with the hisui starters. You, the MC will have a special snowflake form starter mon for you. I never thought they will make special form pokemon canon in gen 9

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:12:02 No.54488222 Report

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>>54487605
>ohmori doesn’t want to remove ivs because it makes pokemon unique
The one thing I will agree on with him and thank fucking god for that considering all the other shit he’s removed. Looks like he’s at least smarter than the average subhuman compfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:13:15 No.54488226 Report

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>>54488210
What should happen is that in the first Pokemon Center you can just enter PvP mode and edit your teams like on Showdown. Even grinding bottlecaps takes fucking forever.
Untill then, I WILL. be injecting as anything else is just too slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 17:14:01 No.54488230 Report

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>>54488197
God I wish. You and I both know alternate form are for forgotten mons. Zard will just get a straight upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:29:51 No.54488674 Report

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>>54486216
>he wants to be optimal but is going about it in the least efficient manner
Lmao just gen then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:31:29 No.54488698 Report

Quoted By:

>>54487362
Btfo lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:40:38 No.54488767 Report

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>>54487277
>Amoongus
>Foul Play

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:45:02 No.54488799 Report

Quoted By: >>54489224

>>54488197
>Bloodrage Charizard
>not Skyking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:48:04 No.54488825 Report

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>>54486170
Theres a mochi called the Fresh Start mochi that resets you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:48:27 No.54488826 Report

Quoted By: >>54489001

You're looking at, like, a 10HP difference between foul play against 0IV vs. 31IV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:49:01 No.54488831 Report

Quoted By:

>>54486799
because the other one is physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 18:51:31 No.54488853 Report

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>>54486256
no female or shiny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:12:36 No.54489001 Report

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>>54488826
1 HP can make all the difference, you would know this if you were not some inferior piece of shit, but alas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:19:35 No.54489060 Report

Quoted By:

>>54486757
>stop cheating

No, I’ll continue winning tournaments with Pokemon I made on my laptop 5 minutes before my battles. What are you gonna do about it, kike?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:25:47 No.54489098 Report

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>>54486170
>caring about competitive
I'm so glad I can just catch a Pokemon and not think about it, with the only building I need to do relating to house rule matches with friends or Tera Raids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:30:49 No.54489128 Report

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>>54486324
It's for foul play, not confusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:34:13 No.54489154 Report

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>>54486216
someone fucking post the foul play move usage statistics and embarass this nigger now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:44:58 No.54489224 Report

Quoted By: >>54489903

>>54488197
>>54488799
>not Flamelord/Firelord

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 19:50:20 No.54489253 Report

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>>54486170
Can't you just get it injected or something?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 21:20:09 No.54489903 Report

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>>54489224
Dreadking Charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 22:41:29 No.54490615 Report

Quoted By: >>54490715

>>54487576
>nobody gave a shit about competitive pokemon in gen 3
>started to become popular during gen 4, when many people discovered injecting and action replay stuff
>became an actual thing in gen 5, where everyone was already doing it

just inject bro, world champion 2023 did it too you know. Nobody would ACTUALLY farm for competitive pokemon, are you an idiot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 22:53:00 No.54490715 Report

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>>54490615
causation does not equal correlation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 22:58:41 No.54490756 Report

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>No former Alpha Mark
Are you kidding me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Sep 2023 23:24:36 No.54490987 Report

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>>54487362
>coping for an excuse not to need to be optimal.
But by trying to get an optimal ursaluna you're wasting time during the relevancy window of the DLC that you could be battling instead. Every 30 minutes you go grinding the right IVs is another battle you missed out on and will never get another chance at in your life. Which also means you aren't gaining meta knowledge by actually playing the game and your competition is learning the new meta faster than you.

Who's suboptimal now faggot?

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