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Do you agree with the pre-4th gen physical/special split groups?

Anonymous Wed 20 Sep 2023 00:42:08 No.54516201 View View Reply Original Report

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I feel that dragon and dark are more physical, and ghost and poison are more special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Sep 2023 00:43:52 No.54516210 Report

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>>54516201
I only disagree with how they added the split and proceeded to make the game massively worse in every way

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Anonymous Wed 20 Sep 2023 00:44:53 No.54516216 Report

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dark and dragon should've been physical while ghost and poison should've been special

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Anonymous Wed 20 Sep 2023 00:57:01 No.54516276 Report

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>>54516201
>Dragon
In Gen 1 the only Dragon move was Dragon Rage, and in Gen 2 the most common Dragon moves you'd see were Twister and DragonBreath. The implication that Dragon attack = magical dragon shit was pretty clear.
>Ghost
Ghost tended towards physical moves pre-split with things like Lick, Astonish and Shadow Punch. People tend to forget this because, admittedly, the most iconic Ghost move of all time happens to feel more like a Special move granted, you could make an argument that hurling a blob of anything is Physical.
>Dark
Mostly got shafted because they wanted to keep the type distribution even and Steel sure as hell wasn't going to be Special.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Sep 2023 01:36:54 No.54516452 Report

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>>54516276
>Ghost tended towards physical moves pre-split with things like Lick, Astonish and Shadow Punch.

Lick and Shadow Ball were the only offensive ghost moves in gen 2 (besides nightshade). They really should have switched its category with dark in gen 2, no one would have even noticed or cared about continuity from gen 1 because absolutely no one was running lick on gengar. I have a feeling that the only reason ghost was physical in gen 1 was because of Lick.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Sep 2023 01:37:11 No.54516455 Report

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>>54516201
The logic is mostly sound imo, the majority of special types are explicitly elemental (drawing a difference between ground/rock and other 'physical' things such as water/grass is a bit strange), psychic is the inverse of physical, dragon is based on mythological/fantasy creatures as opposed to say 'bugs'. Dark is a bit iffy but as they seem to wanted to make the split as even a number as possible, so whatever.

Most of the physical side also make sense, even Posion as most of their attacks (gens 1-3) are a 'physical' substance. You could debate ghost, but near all the attack descriptions describe a physical interaction.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Sep 2023 01:45:23 No.54516511 Report

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>>54516276
>the most iconic Ghost move of all time happens to feel more like a Special move
Nah, you just need to be more creative.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Sep 2023 01:50:10 No.54516542 Report

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>>54516276
>Ghost tended towards physical moves pre-split with things like Lick, Astonish and Shadow Punch. People tend to forget this because, admittedly, the most iconic Ghost move of all time happens to feel more like a Special move granted, you could make an argument that hurling a blob of anything is Physical.
Shadow Punch was added after all of those, and Shadow Ball always lowered spdef despite being physical

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Marioipod13 !!VK5RQYuo7rr Wed 20 Sep 2023 02:42:34 No.54516829 Report

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>>54516201
I agree mostly with this, I think Ghost should be considered Special but other than that it's good.

This might be weird but I think of physical when I think of Fairy types because they give me the image of forced love or sex (BDSM for example), so I picture them to be physical. Lots of my made-up fairy type moves (Lip Press, Cuddle, Tantrum, etc) are physical.

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