>>54568615>>54568784Summed up my thoughts perfectly. Part of the appeal of Pokémon games to me is the side content that lets you interact with your Pokémon and the game's world with something that isn't just battling. Without it and combined with a game whose single player doesn't utilize the full potential of its combat system, there's no reason for me to play a modern Pokémon game when I could just play any other JRPG instead.
>>54568864So do I, it's a reason why I prefer Gen 4 over 5 overall, but as you mentioned with Secret Bases, Gen 4's alterations weren't exactly the expansion I was hoping for, especially with contests, which for some reason they renamed it to Super Contests and reworked how so many moves worked compared to Gen 3 it made things feel inconsistent.
>>54568953Would've been cool to have Hidden Grottos turn into Secret Bases, but they wanted to push Dream World and look where that ended up.