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Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:21:20 No.54589900 View View Reply Original Report

Thoughts on Roaring Moon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:22:25 No.54589906 Report

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>>54589900
I really like its design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:22:51 No.54589908 Report

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>>54589900
I think imagination mega salamence is a pretty cool guy. Eh calls centro a nigger and doesn’t afraid of anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:22:54 No.54589909 Report

Quoted By: >>54590304 >>54590633

Mega Salamence but done right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:23:30 No.54589911 Report

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>>54589900
Another lazy Salamence rehash, this series is trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:24:45 No.54589920 Report

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Why are its claws blue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:25:40 No.54589927 Report

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>>54589900
Dark/dragon Salamence should have been a wingless one perpetually raging that it can't fly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:26:36 No.54589935 Report

Quoted By: >>54590732

>>54589900
Strongly dislike how overdesigned it is. Both it and Iron Valiant are, they stick out like a sore thumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:29:29 No.54589952 Report

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>>54589900
he seems like a wild guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:30:20 No.54589960 Report

Quoted By: >>54590633

>>54589900
Mega Salamance done right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:30:51 No.54589962 Report

Quoted By: >>54590633

>>54589900
A Mega Salamence that doesn't make me barf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:31:03 No.54589965 Report

Quoted By: >>54590633

>>54589900
Mega salamence if she was competently designed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 19:31:45 No.54589972 Report

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>>54589900
He looks like he is gonna say something offensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:00:55 No.54590166 Report

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>>54589927
This is what I thought it was when I heard the typing from the early leaks, considering Salamence’s entire deal revolves around its flying type. Why the fuck would they design it to resemble the Salamence form that leans even harder into the flying typing?

Honestly imagination theory is real solely because a non-flying type Salamence contradicts its design so hard. Only a hack like Heath would have come up with this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:24:51 No.54590300 Report

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>>54589900
>let's slap fucking feathers on salamence and call it a new pokemon!
paradox mons were a crippling mistake
gamefreak MUST be criticized at all costs for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:25:52 No.54590304 Report

Quoted By: >>54590316

>>54589909
both are lazy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:27:54 No.54590316 Report

Quoted By: >>54590328

>>54590304
Lazy designs are some of the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:28:26 No.54590320 Report

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>>54590166
Not to mention Moon looks the best when he’s on the ground, on all fours. They dropped the ball on his design severely. Keep the attacks and stats, but put the thing permanently on the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:29:15 No.54590328 Report

Quoted By: >>54590334 >>54590342 >>54590745 >>54590994

>>54590316
no they aren't
they are some of the worst because it means gamefreak is using all the older pokemon as a crutch instead of making new shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:30:05 No.54590334 Report

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>>54590328
I'd rather take "use older pokemon as a crutch" than "get brand new designs but they look like complete dogshit" like gen 5

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:31:20 No.54590342 Report

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>>54590328
>gamefreak is using all the older pokemon as a crutch instead of making new shit
Which is a great idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 20:53:00 No.54590503 Report

Quoted By: >>54590688 >>54590706

>>54590334
gen 5 is kino
>>54590342
volcarona with a tail is not a great idea
fan made paradox mons are much more creative than this
gamefreak isn't trying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 21:09:36 No.54590593 Report

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>>54589900
He looks like he has an announcement to make

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 21:15:06 No.54590633 Report

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>>54589909
>>54589960
>>54589962
>>54589965 (he*)
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 21:24:43 No.54590688 Report

Quoted By: >>54592251

>>54590503
>volcarona with a tail is not a great idea
It is. They completely changed the Pokemon's personality and presence just by changing its balance point. It's genius, one of the best Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 21:28:22 No.54590706 Report

Quoted By: >>54591120 >>54592251

>>54590503
Slither Wing is one of the best paradox done right

If you want to criticize unoriginal paradox look at Primal Jigglypuff or pretty much any Violet paradox

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 21:33:54 No.54590732 Report

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>>54589935
You have no idea what that word means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 21:35:24 No.54590738 Report

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>>54590166
>because a non-flying type Salamence contradicts its design so hard
It really didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 21:36:25 No.54590745 Report

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>>54590328
See, you'd have a point if they were all your bog standard recolors but they aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 21:39:27 No.54590758 Report

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>>54589900
I've always found that mega salamence croissant ridiculous, moon is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:15:50 No.54590912 Report

Quoted By: >>54591138

>>54589900
>not dragon/fire
Dragon/dark on a pokemon designed purely for sweeping has the shelf life of a gallon of milk. He's already starting to go sour after Enamorus and Clefable released, and it's clear that he absolutely needs tera flying acrobatics to do anything. Dump him in the trash when the Tapus return or tera rotates out, whichever happens first. Oh, that's WITH booster energy. No way in hell that's coming back.

Mixed Salamence will be better than Roaring Moon next gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:31:16 No.54590994 Report

Quoted By: >>54592264

>>54590328
The only good designs now are rehashes of old Pokemon. Everything else is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:35:34 No.54591013 Report

Quoted By: >>54591034

>>54590738
>mon line that progresses entirely based on its yearning to fly impacting its evolution and genetic structure
>learns fly upon evolution
>mega is explicitly designed more aerodynamic with an ability called “sky skin” in JP, reflecting said genes
Sorry anon, you missed the point of Salamence.

>>54590320
Even some line mentioning “it can glide, but not fly directly” may have salvaged it slightly, honestly. It’s supposedly meant to be a feathered dinosaur like the rest of the past paradoxes, so giving it some animations showing its flight sucking ass too could have alleviated it somewhat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:36:24 No.54591019 Report

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>>54589900
That is some of the worst official art a Pokemon has ever received.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:36:56 No.54591025 Report

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>>54589900
He's a pretty cool dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:39:15 No.54591034 Report

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>>54591013
>>mon line that progresses entirely based on its yearning to fly impacting its evolution and genetic structure
Now think about that for a moment. If it's species could fly in the past why would it yarn for flight?

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Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:42:23 No.54591048 Report

Quoted By: >>54591065 >>54591074 >>54591258 >>54591809 >>54592136

Genuinely impressive how you can have stats like this with a good ability and typing and still not pull out good results in OU or VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:46:21 No.54591065 Report

Quoted By: >>54591077

>>54591048
Do you want "Cleffa used Disarming Voice!" kind of posts about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:47:55 No.54591074 Report

Quoted By: >>54591084

>>54591048
wasn't this think all over OU not too long ago? what happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:48:22 No.54591077 Report

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>>54591065
Not at all. Genuine observation. It even gets scale shot and knock off t so idk whats up. This thing almost always teras into steel or fairy too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:49:33 No.54591084 Report

Quoted By: >>54591126

>>54591074
It dropped to UU and is currently UUBL. its just not used much. Even choice band sets dont put out good enough results. Its also never seen in HCG but that makes more sense with Flutter mane and Chien pao running the tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:57:03 No.54591120 Report

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>>54590706
I think Scream Tail is a pretty cool concept.
Jigglypuff was more powerful and ferocious in prehistory, and it screamed and roared like a beast.
As it got weaker and smaller over the centuries its roar evolved into singing that makes its enemies fall asleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 22:57:52 No.54591126 Report

Quoted By: >>54591150 >>54591157

>>54591084
>its gotten to the point even broken powecreep nu-mons are being powercrept by broken powercreep nu-mons that were introduced in the same generation.
ffs paradox-mons were a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 23:01:13 No.54591138 Report

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>>54590912
>designed purely for sweeping
It's not, it can do lots of things.
The fact that it has so much attack means that you don't have to fully invest into it and can go for bulky offense or semi-support builds without losing too much offensive presence. Booster energy is obviously going to be a returning item too.
Moon is by no means a top tier Pokemon but it's better than Salamence.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 23:02:45 No.54591150 Report

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>>54591126
>he thinks power creep is about BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 23:04:00 No.54591157 Report

Quoted By: >>54591216 >>54593894

>>54591126
Roaring moon is just kind of an anomaly. Baxcalibur was also UU but it became a top 10 OU threat in the same gen. I think people are seriously sleeping on Roaring moon especially with scale shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 23:14:02 No.54591216 Report

Quoted By: >>54591225

>>54591157
To be fair, there was no reason to use Baxcalibur when Chien-Pao was legal and Alolan Ninetales wasn't out yet. Chien-Pao also has a chance of returning if tera finally, FINALLY gets banned.

Have Weavile or Mamoswine taken off yet? Their competition got banned and Weavile got knock off back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 23:15:05 No.54591225 Report

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>>54591216
>Have Weavile or Mamoswine taken off yet?
It's too early to tell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Sep 2023 23:18:57 No.54591258 Report

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>>54591048
VGCfag here, its objectively a good mon since it can function as a DD sweeper or Tailwind supporter but the fact that the best Pokemon in the format is a Fairy type faster than it is something of a death knell
It got a Top 16 appearance at Worlds though, and I wouldn't be surprised if it picked up in usage in Regulation E due to gaining Knock Off, Tera Flying Acrobatics pressuring Ogerpon and the other Grass types and Urshifu seeing less usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 01:17:48 No.54591809 Report

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>>54591048
Blame Flutter Shit and Iron Dick's strangehold on VGC forcing it to tera when there are 12 more worthy Tera users.
And then Gay Tusks and Fagdengo's strangehold on hazard control so it just eats shit before it can Tera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 02:28:06 No.54592127 Report

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>>54589900
He called Centro a NIGGER so he's cool in my book

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 02:31:12 No.54592136 Report

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>>54591048
Your stats do not matter when someone hits your 4 times weakness. Sorry anon.

Marioipod13 !!VK5RQYuo7rr

Marioipod13 !!VK5RQYuo7rr Sun 01 Oct 2023 02:43:18 No.54592171 Report

Quoted By: >>54592215 >>54592225

>>54589900
I like the regular one a lot but hate the shiny because it permanently injured me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 02:56:58 No.54592215 Report

Quoted By: >>54592411

>>54592171
Just eat some herba mysticas bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 02:59:30 No.54592225 Report

Quoted By: >>54592411

>>54592171
Good. You're one step closer to having your corpse fucking May's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 03:07:35 No.54592251 Report

Quoted By: >>54593971 >>54593974

>>54590688
>>54590706
it doesn't take much effort to draw hunched over volcarona and then a tail that doesn't fit the rest of the body. i still think they could have done something better if they tried harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 03:09:18 No.54592264 Report

Quoted By: >>54593579 >>54593801

>>54590994
the 3D as a whole is definitely shit but there are a handful of original designs that are not bad. trevenant, dragapault, glimmora, toxapex, and the galar fossila come to mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 03:47:29 No.54592411 Report

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>>54592215
>>54592225
Stop feeding the tripfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 09:50:38 No.54593579 Report

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>>54592264
>galar fossils
>good design
I get the entire "back then paleontologist were greater hacks that nowadays" when they took the mixing fossils concept but to say they are good as designs is another thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 11:14:00 No.54593801 Report

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>>54592264
>galar fossils
A nice example of "nice concept, awful execution". They look like cheap plastic toys mashed together

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 11:16:26 No.54593808 Report

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>>54589900
'Clears throat'
Centro...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 11:33:50 No.54593859 Report

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>>54589900
It okay, one of few mons that actually goes with a Great Ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 11:47:09 No.54593894 Report

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>>54591157
Roaring Moon always had Scale Shot even before the dlc it's a relearn move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 12:18:26 No.54593971 Report

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>>54592251
You focus too much on how much effort the artist invests (something that doesn't affect you in any way) and not enough on how enjoyable the final product is.
You're a consumer, not an inspector.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 12:21:05 No.54593974 Report

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>>54592251
>it doesn't take much effort
So? It's a wonderful Pokemon.
The fact that the author managed to make such a great design with little effort should be applauded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Oct 2023 15:02:27 No.54594562 Report

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>>54589900
looks ai generated

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