>>54591943You know anon a lack of empathy and understanding of what other people are saying is a sign of autism. You don't like HM's because they're the world's most minor inconvenience when you're raising a team for PvP. But other people like the idea of their own Pokemon contributing to overworld exploration in some way, but don't like those Pokemon suddenly sucking dick even in the campaign because they're carrying 2 or more moves that are mid at best. And you think that that's somehow laughable when your autism is just as sad.
Your entire complaint so far is about one HM. Fly. You need a single Pokemon slot to do this. You're sperging out because you need to use a flying type or something that can learn a single move to make raising a Pokemon convenient. You've ignored the fact that you lied about needing 6 slots to do this or how it makes things "more convenient", because it ruins your argument. You've ignored the fact that that "I hate that I have to have garbage in my team to do basic shit in the game" is the same complaint the people who want to use their bros to explore also have. You're the one pretending that you're going to be playing PvP while you also raise something for PvP and thus have your Pokemon with Fly in the party in which case you do you but that's genuinely stupid. So you have something with Fly, something with Flame Body, and either one of those Pokemon or some other teammate with the ability to kill other Pokemon to raise the thing you're breeding. So out of your 5 slots you have 3 taken up. And you're still only raising one Pokemon at a time unless they have identical EV spreads (ignored).
Also yes, I hate to break it to you but reliable, strong tools that have been around for ages are "strong staples". That's what any game calls moves like that. All the moves listed absolutely qualify as strong staples.
Either you're the world's biggest autist, or you don't believe a damn word you're saying. Either way fuck off retard.