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Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:06:13 No.54615584 View View Reply Original Report

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KWAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:07:07 No.54615586 Report

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>>54615584
SLOW

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Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:08:19 No.54615589 Report

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FRAIL

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:17:38 No.54615641 Report

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>>54615584
He's trying his best, shut up faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:20:35 No.54615659 Report

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Sorta Full Metal Alchemist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:22:05 No.54615665 Report

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>>54615641
I still can't believe they wasted Cacnea's evolution on this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:23:23 No.54615671 Report

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>>54615641
When is he getting an ability that redeems him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:25:30 No.54615690 Report

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>>54615671
Abilities can't fix that shitty stat distribution and typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:27:46 No.54615698 Report

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>>54615584
>Switched the special attack stat with the speed
Suddendly things gets better when you have a specific role ain't it?

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Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:29:32 No.54615712 Report

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>>54615641
I hate Hoenn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:30:14 No.54615716 Report

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>>54615712
I don't see it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:32:12 No.54615725 Report

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SLOW
MIXED
ATTACKER
*CK!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:40:33 No.54615783 Report

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>>54615690
Sand Rush
done

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 17:42:29 No.54615804 Report

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>>54615641
just give him Sand Rush...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 18:00:07 No.54615955 Report

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>>54615783
It would become a sand version of chlorophyll Shiftry, which is not a good thing to be considering that sand is so underpowered compared to sun

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 18:06:42 No.54616007 Report

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>>54615955
Sand going from the dominant weather to the worst is a crime
>sun/rain actively advance there stat with more damage and further boost with shit like swift swim chlorophyll shit like solar beam one turn charge/100% accurate hurricane/thunder
>snow gets def and Vail
>sand gets... A bit of sp def
Start giving sand busted moves for fuck sake. Or make sand the only permanent weather

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 18:08:03 No.54616016 Report

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>>54615690
>What is Shiftry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 18:09:26 No.54616021 Report

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>>54615955
Sand would benefit from fast grass type
Cacturne also has all sorts of crazy coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 18:09:29 No.54616022 Report

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>>54616007
Sand is only bad right now because there's no good Sand Rush/Force mons. Ground really doesn't need the buff either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 18:10:49 No.54616036 Report

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>>54616016
A bad Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 18:18:25 No.54616075 Report

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>>54616022
No. Give me sand meta damnit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 22:35:24 No.54617653 Report

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>>54615584
Oh no no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 23:33:27 No.54617989 Report

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>>54615584
You say that yet it alone caused fanfiction format so much seethe it is the reason why Sand Veil is banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 23:36:32 No.54618004 Report

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>>54615584
>being a mixed attacker is useless because every pokemon has ridiculous amounts of type coverage, so you can usually just spam SE moves regardless of phys/spec advantage
>being frail is useless because the game's damage values are balanced in a way that pokemon only survive for 1 or 2 hits at most unless they're explicitly bulky
>being slow is a death sentence for the same reason

what a great game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 23:38:33 No.54618016 Report

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>>54618004
Damage values are way too high. It's funny that I never see anyone suggest lowering them. It would make for a significantly more interesting single-player experience, although it would no doubt make 6v6 singles unplayable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 23:42:38 No.54618035 Report

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>>54615690
>speed boost
there, it's UU now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 23:47:41 No.54618061 Report

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>>54618016
stall lives rent free in people's minds (some legitimate criticism, some ADHD zoomers who can't stand battles that last more than 2 minutes) and is used as a counter every time someone suggests it - ignoring that status moves could also be rebalanced around new damage values

also doubles is the superior battle format for both singleplayer and competitive but people aren't ready to hear that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 23:49:35 No.54618073 Report

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>>54618061
the best format imo is the "free for all random battle" they have on showdown
it's like doubles except everybody is trying to murder each other and battles last a nice long while

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Oct 2023 23:51:43 No.54618081 Report

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>>54615584
>sub 500 BST
give him a cross gen evo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 03:44:20 No.54619251 Report

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>>54615584

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 04:14:05 No.54619406 Report

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>>54616016
>we now live in a world where shiftry and tyranitar are in the same tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 04:27:21 No.54619471 Report

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>>54618016
lowering damage values would require such a massive rebalancing of every single facet of the game that you'd be better off just scrapping the entire system and building a new one from the ground up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 08:20:40 No.54620324 Report

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>>54615584
>hardcounters Crocune sets
Nothin personell 'cune.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 16:21:06 No.54622090 Report

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>>54615641
This looks like the kind of Pokemon that will get a 3rd stage evo in Gen 10

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 18:49:01 No.54623016 Report

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>>54615589
If it's so frail why did Cynthia die so easily to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 18:51:49 No.54623030 Report

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>>54615641
>even the shitnova cactus has better stats
pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 20:45:17 No.54624026 Report

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>>54619406
That's nothing new.
When a Pokemon is introduced to the metagame it automatically starts as OU on Showdown, then it drops until it reaches a tier where it actually gets usage.
Shiftry is UU right now because it's not done dropping yet, but it will quickly reach PU like it always has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 20:47:34 No.54624042 Report

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>>54619406
Just you wait
Excadrill is gonna turn things around for TTar and Sand as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 20:51:39 No.54624077 Report

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>>54623030
Better abilities too

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 20:53:42 No.54624092 Report

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Aw man, slow frail mixed attacker with less than 500 BST, I bet this thing sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 20:57:33 No.54624123 Report

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>>54624092
Without Adaptability this thing would be Seaking-tier

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 21:00:13 No.54624138 Report

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>>54624092
Give it Sucker Punch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:00:12 No.54624506 Report

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>>54624092
>450 BST
>highest stat 102
it can't be any good, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:01:03 No.54624513 Report

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>>54624506
First Impressions are important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:07:57 No.54624547 Report

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>>54624092
On what planet is 120/90 mixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:12:46 No.54624566 Report

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>>54615690
>Darude
>Creates a sand storm for five turns when entering the battle field, gives immunity to sand storm damage, and doubles speed in a sand storm
Done

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:14:10 No.54624575 Report

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>>54618016
The devs have openly stated they consider themselves to be competing with mobile games for little zoomer attention spans, so the last thing they'd want to do is make the game any slower than it already is

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:17:01 No.54624590 Report

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>>54624547

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:18:27 No.54624601 Report

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>>54618061
We need more games that focus on doubles. The fact official Pokémon games use 2v2 as the official competitive format and balance around it exclusively to the point that fanfic format becomes less and less stable every generation, but have almost no double battles in the games any more, is criminal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:19:28 No.54624607 Report

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>>54624590
What gen is that from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:22:35 No.54624624 Report

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>>54624601
How many double battles were there in swsh? I know SV had a grand total of five, all relegated to the same gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:25:07 No.54624639 Report

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>>54624566
Only Zarude can get that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:45:33 No.54624725 Report

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>>54624590
kek remember when every physical attacker had Brick break?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:47:16 No.54624732 Report

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>>54623030
kys unovabortion

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:52:25 No.54624761 Report

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>>54624092
Crawdaunt my beloved...

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:55:35 No.54624779 Report

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>>54624761
Into my bucket it goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:56:33 No.54624783 Report

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>>54624624
>grand total of five
>all in the same gym
That’s fucking awful.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:57:58 No.54624786 Report

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>>54624779

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 00:26:31 No.54625239 Report

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>>54624783
The fifth one is also the postgame gym leader rematch. Like most battles in the game they're also non-repeatable, so once you beat Ryme for a second time that's it, no more double battles ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 02:53:27 No.54625988 Report

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>>54624779
Crawdaunt canonically tastes awful

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 02:54:41 No.54625996 Report

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>>54615712
*pop* WOBBUFFET!!!
*traps you in a Nuzlocke*

What the hell do you do now? Apologize to Hoenn or Wobbuffet kills you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 03:33:42 No.54626182 Report

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>>54625996
*baton passes out*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 06:27:29 No.54626831 Report

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>>54624513
>>54624506
is Golisopod good in competitive? That would make me happy to know :D

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 07:07:13 No.54626925 Report

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>>54624624
Zero repeatable double battles with only two important ones IIRC. It’s pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 08:26:38 No.54627217 Report

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>>54615584
What's wrong with this? Those Attack and Sp.Atk stats are great!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 08:30:26 No.54627225 Report

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>>54615665
shut the fuck up you cocksucker cacturne looks rad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 08:54:25 No.54627321 Report

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>>54626831
It had some relevance in SS tournaments but its ability makes it gimmicky and very situational

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