>>54696755>denying it's usually better than Celebi is wrongCelebi is a Top 10, Top 7 mon used in gen 3 ou these days
Swampert now gets btfo by mixed Salamence
Celebi enables two completely different styles of Baton Pass teams, virtually hard counters Zapdos, can beat Blissey, ruin set-up, has multiple forms of recovery, and again can't even actually be effectively trapped and removed despite being prime for it on paper
there is absolutely cases to be made for it being better than Swampert in the current metagame
>Celebi has more common answers than Swampert doesCelebi can heal it off and get out of dodge with Baton Pass, or kill its checks before it gets rekt if it's offensive
damage done to Swampert sticks, not even taking into account the possibility of being poisoned or burned with no Natural Cure, the things it's meant to check often run hidden power grass for it too, like Salamence and Zapdos
>My entire reasoning for bringing up Celebi was that I don't believe it has any inherently broken qualities about it in the current meta gameI've listed all the reasons why it is "broken" or borderline
unkillable set-up sweeper and enabler and shut-down
all Swampert is most commonly is a wall with no recovery and an exploitable 4x weakness that isn't even as specifically useful toward it alone as other such forced coverage would be
>you made the claim that every pokemon other than Swampert in OU has some overpowered quality about it.and they do, including Celebi, for the reasons explained extensively
>Of which there's limited examples of actually "viable" NU Pokemon in OUsuch is life
>even then those were already strong pokemononly if you stretch the concept of broken utility
all Volbeat has to get by on is Tail Glow and Baton Pass
all Sableye has is a great typing, recovery, and knock off, along with a handful of jigsaw status moves (not even will-o-wisp)
>It still has clearly defined weaknessesit's frail & has no firepower; that's it
>~430scloser to 450 than 400
