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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:36:12 No.54741569 View View Reply Original Report

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>"Pokémon is shit compared to the average JRPG"
What's a good JRPG that Pokémon should take example from?

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:37:23 No.54741575 Report

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inb4 “muh SMT”

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:37:50 No.54741578 Report

Quoted By: >>54741594 >>54741632 >>54742923 >>54743008 >>54743492

Dragon quest the original Pokemon

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:38:03 No.54741580 Report

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>>54741575
in during

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:38:28 No.54741583 Report

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pokemon should be more like Digimon World: Next 0rder

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:41:43 No.54741594 Report

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>>54741578
I like that the furry duck thing is so utterly dissimilar to Psyduck, in both appearance and color scheme, that there's no possible way this image could be anything but bait. It's like a big flashing sign that says THIS IS BAIT and people still think it's serious.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:42:37 No.54741601 Report

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>>54741569
The Xenoblade series for world design and graphics/optimization, Dragon Quest IX for postgame, and Pokemon Colosseum/XD for the actual battling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:43:12 No.54741604 Report

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>>54741569
This is a schizo take. The only thing Pokemon really does different is not having a real game over, you only lose some money which is easy to make back. If Pokemon really needs anything it would be more inconveniences and punishments, but this would affect the casual nature of things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:43:13 No.54741605 Report

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>>54741594
Cope poketroon pokeshit is a lazy bland childish rip off and they copied digimon and yokai watch too. Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:44:12 No.54741612 Report

Quoted By: >>54741632

>>54741569
Persona 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:47:10 No.54741623 Report

Quoted By: >>54742950

None all turn based rpg are trash and boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:49:29 No.54741632 Report

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>>54741575
SMT hasn't been good since Strange Journey (DS original, not the shitty 3DS """remaster""")
>>54741578
>a series more derivative and unchanging than Pokemon
>>54741601
>>54741612
>japanese """humor""" games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 19:55:48 No.54741649 Report

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>>54741594
It’s as bad a copy-job as the Abrahamic religions are.

Captcha: Korr

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 20:02:26 No.54741680 Report

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>>54741632
>>japanese """humor""" games
yea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 20:50:00 No.54741903 Report

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>>54741569
Shit Meganut Toilet. I suggest we add sex and make the story ver dark and serious and make it overly difficult for no reason at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 20:51:47 No.54741916 Report

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>>54741594
Are you retarded

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 20:52:56 No.54741926 Report

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>>54741903
Fr fr strai bussin cuh Pokemon lit because it ain't heckin problematic y'all no cap

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 20:54:02 No.54741930 Report

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>>54741569
No Pokemon fan has ever played another RPG

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 21:49:39 No.54742249 Report

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>>54741680
that's clearly a reference to the culture of the british isles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 21:50:46 No.54742252 Report

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>>54741930
not true, I love the M&L series

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 21:53:45 No.54742275 Report

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>>54742249
>Galarian """humor"""

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 21:57:29 No.54742297 Report

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>>54741569
Hot take: Pokémon should'nt be a rpg. It should have around the same scheme except battles are arcade fighters like Pokken.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 21:57:44 No.54742299 Report

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>>54741569
Fucking persona 5 since it's as easy as pokemon but a bit more interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 21:58:52 No.54742304 Report

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it mogs all other rpgs in terms of monster designs which is really all that matters for its business model

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 21:59:49 No.54742309 Report

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>>54741680
the fact its probably doing some bri'ish faggot skirt dance or something... the amount of cringe... this is the cringest shit ive ever seen.
So glad i didnt play this thing im gonna vomitshtmxj

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 22:03:02 No.54742326 Report

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>>54741569
Dragon Quest, without a doubt.
DQXI looks and runs beautifully, even with technology that is far from the cutting edge (like Xenoblade).
The DQ devs understand that immersion takes precedence over everything. It's better to cut scope in order to make what you have as good as it can be, rather than have a massive world that runs terribly, looks cheap and lazy, and is full of glitches.

Like Pokemon, nostalgia and identity are incredibly important to Dragon Quest, but DQ has mastered the art of balancing its identity with modernizations.

Of course, DQ isn't always perfect: despite being very fun, the new Monsters game runs like crusty dog shit.

But DQXI is still the example Pokemon should be looking at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 22:06:14 No.54742345 Report

Quoted By: >>54742414 >>54742452

>>54742297
The amount of work it would require to make a full move set for every Pokemon would mean the roster would have to be cut down to like maybe 50 at the absolute best and that's if each one has a sidescrolling beat em up level of depth

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 22:23:26 No.54742414 Report

Quoted By: >>54744823 >>54744943

>>54742345
Dragon Quest looks good but their combat system is so much worse than Pokemon's and grinding is awful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 22:26:49 No.54742431 Report

Quoted By: >>54743224

>>54741569
Digimon Story games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 22:30:46 No.54742452 Report

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>>54742345
However, even as a RPG pokemon could be the best game ever existed, yet it isnt. They could definitely do this, even if not 50 but a roster of 100.
They could make the biggest game ever been, just taking enough time, the way they did with gen 1 and gen 2 for gameboy, with gen 6 and 7 for 3ds.

And since theyre also making double DLC already, the roster width wouldnt really be a problem either as they can always expand it throghout.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 22:34:14 No.54742466 Report

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>>54741569
Preferably none of them, JRPGs are largely mid-low budget which is below where pokemon should be. Pokemon should be taking reference from Nintendo's other games.
But if you put a gun to my head, I'd go with Rune Factory 4. Specifically, how much love the devs put into the game, with the surprising amount of content for what it is and how many little details and secrets there are. Something pokemon could probably use.
Pokemon is kind of like RF5 in relation to 4 if I think about it

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 23:57:10 No.54742903 Report

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Xenoblade and MonHun Stories both have traits that pokemon could learn a lot from. Story and world for the former and battle design for the latter.
That being said I think Pokemon can't really be compared accurately to other series. They have different target audiences that they sell to well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 23:59:53 No.54742923 Report

Quoted By: >>54742985

>>54741578
pokemon colosseum was made by the dq devs and is exclusively played by pokefags who complain that it's not similar enough to standard pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:03:30 No.54742950 Report

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>>54741623
average Tales of enjoyer

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:07:58 No.54742985 Report

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>>54742923
no it was by james turder

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:09:41 No.54743000 Report

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pokemon is shit because core concept is shit and its too childish too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:10:29 No.54743008 Report

Quoted By: >>54743026

>>54741578
Damn they really did steal designs lmao. Some of those are so similar it can’t be a coincidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:11:42 No.54743026 Report

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>>54743008
and there is still more

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:34:59 No.54743143 Report

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>>54742249
>culture
>british isles
That's an oxymoron.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:41:58 No.54743157 Report

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>>54741569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlJ4B_N-jWk

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:43:01 No.54743158 Report

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>>54742297
>Hot take: Pokémon should'nt be a rpg.
My hot take is that modern Pokemon is just a MMORPG larping as a standard JRPG

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:45:15 No.54743167 Report

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Digimon is for booger-eating retards who got raped by their uncle.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 00:58:22 No.54743224 Report

Quoted By: >>54744326

>>54742431
Pokémon doesn’t need to be any more of a cutscene dialogue simulator, but I assume you’re joking anyway

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 01:35:25 No.54743368 Report

Quoted By: >>54744416

>>54741569
Just implement quality of life features from literally any game that came out in the last 10 years.

1. Ability to skip cutscenes, and also decide to skip or not skip each individual cutscene... Like seriously having a "skip cutscene" prompt in the option which doesn't even work is fucking retarded.

2. Ability to fast forward or even auto scroll the dialogue. Basic feature that visual novels and JRPGs have had for 20 years. Seriously how fucking difficult is it to implement "press Y and the game will keep pressing the A button for you every 2 seconds"?

2. Do much better with an inventory and UI. Improve pokemon management, like add ability to sort, easier release etc.

3. Don't have a pokedex that is one giant list, YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARDS. Like don't have a fucking scrolling list with 400 entries. Ever heard of fucking tiles? You know, try displaying more than 4 items on a screen at a time.

There you go, I turned your shitty 4/10 game into a 7/10 in less than a day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 01:58:47 No.54743451 Report

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>>54741930
A good chunk of pokefags will literally only play mainline Pokemon. I'm also a Metroidfag, personally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:05:57 No.54743472 Report

Quoted By: >>54743487

>>54741575
>no, noo, no, you can't mention a literal jrpg
Shills are fucking stupid.
>>54741569
Dragon Quest
SMT
Persona
Xenoblade
Xenogears
Xenosaga
Ys
Final Fantasy
Suikoden
Tales of

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:07:09 No.54743480 Report

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>>54741632
>japanese hum-ACK!
>>54742249
>"I-I-I-I-IT'S A REFERENCE!"
Galarshills, everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:08:10 No.54743486 Report

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>>54741632
>11 games
>"more derivative"
You never play any DQ. Kill yourself, trannyshill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:08:39 No.54743487 Report

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>>54743472
>smt good
>even remotely
if it isn't persona it isn't worth it, and even then it's dicey

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:09:21 No.54743488 Report

Quoted By: >>54743494 >>54744686

>>54741632
Mental illness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:10:22 No.54743492 Report

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>>54741578
>and shills defend it
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:10:38 No.54743494 Report

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>>54743488
i can't read this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:13:41 No.54743503 Report

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>>54741930
or, y'know, they played other RPGs and Pokemon ended up having more qualities about it that they preferred

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 02:22:46 No.54743528 Report

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golden sun.
pokemon needs to go way harder on dungeons and puzzles, using pokemon to solve them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 03:15:46 No.54743770 Report

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>>54741594
if you actually played any of the first five DQ games you would know that the image is not bait at all. pokemon is a DQ clone with small but profound differences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 05:35:23 No.54744326 Report

Quoted By: >>54744418 >>54744944

>>54743224
CSHM is a thousand times better than anything Gayfreaks has ever shat out, yes even your precious gen 1.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 05:40:38 No.54744346 Report

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>>54741569
The cop smiling on the right is probably a fan.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 05:56:54 No.54744416 Report

Quoted By: >>54744811 >>54744826

>>54743368
>Ability to skip cutscenes
Pokemon already has this.
>Ability to fast forward or even auto scroll the dialogue. Basic feature that visual novels and JRPGs have had for 20 years.
Pokemon doesn't have as much dialogue or NG+ to warrant it.
>Improve pokemon management, like add ability to sort, easier release etc.
Monster tamers generally don't have this but I would want that.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 05:57:56 No.54744418 Report

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>>54744326
>CSHM is a thousand times better than anything Gayfreaks has ever shat out
I guarantee I'm a bigger digimon fan than you are and even I don't believe this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 07:21:48 No.54744686 Report

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>>54743488
Is it the homura and hikari dancing part of X 2 or something?

I don't think it's just one guy always reposting that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 08:29:25 No.54744811 Report

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>>54744416
>Pokemon doesn't have as much dialogue or NG+ to warrant it.
gen 7 has negative replay value because of over 5 hours of unskippable dialog and cutscenes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 08:40:02 No.54744823 Report

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>>54742414
>Combat system forces you to think more than press SE button
>What are metal slimes
Filtered by fucking dragon quest huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 08:41:50 No.54744826 Report

Quoted By: >>54744861

>>54744416
>Pokemon doesn't have as much dialogue or NG+ to warrant it.
Every 3D game and gen 4 struggle from this immensely. It's not about the amount of dialogue, it's about how long it takes to play out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 08:54:09 No.54744861 Report

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>>54744826
>it's about how long it takes to play out.
Which isn't very long.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 09:06:22 No.54744894 Report

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>>54741569
Avalon Code

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Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 09:35:01 No.54744943 Report

Quoted By: >>54744950

>>54742414
>combat system is so much worse than Pokemon's
it's the tried and true jrpg party of four that scares you pokefags. even VGC recognizes the main method of battling, 6v6 singles is dogshit
>grinding is awful
lmfao just talking out of your ass like a pokefag that never actually played DQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 09:35:10 No.54744944 Report

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>>54744326
I like those games, honestly
but they have pretty much the same problems as pokemon, and certainly some of its own
I like managing the creatures and doing some of the weird side quests in the city, but doing the same dungeon over and over in the first game just absolutely sucks.

can't wait for whatever the next one is though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Oct 2023 09:37:59 No.54744950 Report

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>>54744943
nta, but I genuinely believe that pokemon's singles are interesting and makes it unique among jrpgs
doubles, even, is pretty different from most party based rpgs, but the only reason it is the standard for vgc is because it's faster to watch

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