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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 20:04:26 No.54770439 View View Reply Original Report

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Shouldn't it be a water/dragon type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 20:05:26 No.54770447 Report

Quoted By: >>54770463 >>54771167

>>54770439
dragon, much like ghost, used to be a special type reserved for very unique pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 20:05:41 No.54770448 Report

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>>54770439
That's clearly a Water that flies, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 20:07:34 No.54770463 Report

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Maybe, but aside from >>54770447 those two types were also some of the last ones implemented, which means they had less time to playtest them before the game came out. There's a similar problem with a lot of the new Pokemon in GS, they didn't really know how powerful they'd be so they ended up in obscure places (I don't know why Houndoom was among them though, maybe they were just overly paranoid).

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:02:30 No.54771121 Report

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No, because the design based on a carp kite, not a dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:06:52 No.54771146 Report

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>>54770439
it would have been to strong in gen I methinks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:07:22 No.54771151 Report

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>>54770439
Why not. It's not like it would make it any more competitive these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:08:47 No.54771159 Report

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>>54771151
Of course it would.
Gyarados is only used as a support mon with intimidate, taunt, and similar stuff. The better it is defensively the more competitive it will be, its offensive matchups don't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:10:56 No.54771167 Report

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>>54770447
Personally, even in the context of Gen 1, I think making it a Dragon type would’ve been a good idea. More of that “raise the weakest, most pathetic Pokémon into a powerhouse” shtick it already has.

Maybe raise the evolution level to 30 too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:16:26 No.54771190 Report

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>>54771146
A water/dragon at level 20, for only 500 bucks after the first gym, would probably break the game. Dragon resists the next three gyms, and makes Blaine a joke for a 7th gym leader. If Magikarp was introduced today, it'd probably be a max friendship after level 40 knowing waterfall evolution so you're forced to carry the joke all game

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:17:23 No.54771195 Report

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>>54771190
I've done that before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:17:55 No.54771201 Report

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>>54771190
and yet Nidoking was okay

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:27:33 No.54771247 Report

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>>54771201
Because it had 45 les BST points and a fucking joke of an attack stat next to Gyarados' 125. And a Special stat of 100 (in Gen 1), meaning it wasn't taking damage from water, grass or fire moves due to type resistance and GFW being special attacks.
Play the game instead of speedrunning it on twitch, spastic.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:28:34 No.54771252 Report

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>>54771247
meaning it wasn't taking damage from water, grass or fire moves if it had been Dragon type*

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:30:49 No.54771265 Report

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>>54771247
lotta seething and assumptions
yes Gyarados is stronger
but Nidoking is also insanely good and takes even less time to get

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:31:04 No.54771267 Report

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>>54771195
You could get a salamence on route 3, gen 7 didn't give a fuck.

>>54771201
I thought of that right after I posted. At least Nido is weak to misty and doesn't learn any ground moves for surge. Not even dig, which is so stupid it had to be for a reason

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:32:11 No.54771272 Report

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>>54771159
Gyarados has been powercrept. Even if it were part Dragon, it would still prominently be used that way.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:36:16 No.54771281 Report

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>>54771267
>You could get a salamence on route 3
I had no idea, that's actually really cool.
When I went to that route I caught Rufflet instead, so I had two NFE Pokemon all the way to victory road.
My friends used to make fun of me for always bringing the "killer chick".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:37:21 No.54771289 Report

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>>54771265
And is beside the point. The issue in question was concerning Gyara not getting Dragon typing and it was due to that making it FAR too strong for a 'mon designed to be a mid-region water starter replacement (comparable BST to 'toise, but dual-typed and outright better). So what if the overgrown rabbit could solo the game, it still wasn't a factor in why they didn't give the monster mid-region water type Dragon on top.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Oct 2023 22:37:24 No.54771290 Report

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>>54771272
He's as usable as ever in VGC. Being part dragon would make it an even better supporter.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 01:17:22 No.54772059 Report

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>>54770439
They could have made mega gyarados a dragon/water type instead of dark/water.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 01:31:53 No.54772136 Report

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>>54770439
No

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 01:33:32 No.54772143 Report

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>>54772136
Just like a dragon type

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 07:12:45 No.54773301 Report

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>>54771201

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 07:15:55 No.54773310 Report

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>>54770439
Because it literally fucking flies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 07:39:07 No.54773402 Report

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It being a water/flying type helps it man.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 07:58:38 No.54773442 Report

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>>54770439
No, it’s a kite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 08:22:30 No.54773528 Report

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Dragon was made to make Dragonite special, notice it even comes after the bird legends in the dex, it's a real big deal. It's the ace pokemon of the final elite 4 so they make dragon resist the fire/water/grass type of your starter(+ electric to nulify the weakness it would get from being part flying)

Plus in gen 1 there were no abilities(levitate) so if Gyarados (and Charizard/Aerodactyl) were Dragon they would not be immune to earthquake and fissure which is a bigger priority(thematically/logically) than giving them the extra resistances of dragon type. In other words, you can say they should be their main type/flying/dragon but since there's a two type limit, from a practical standpoint rescinding dragon over rescinding flying is a better call.

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