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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 15:46:55 No.54774997 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54775123 >>54775157 >>54775177 >>54775340 >>54775455 >>54775529

>play romhack
>we buffed every pokemon to make them more usable
>ok, Ill use Mothim!
>wait no! not that one!
Why are romhacks like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 15:50:43 No.54775016 Report

Quoted By: >>54775030 >>54775031 >>54775337 >>54775576

Rebalance romhacks go into the trash always. I'll take whatever flaws or oversights the main games have over whatever arbitrary favoritism the autistic mod author comes up with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 15:54:00 No.54775030 Report

Quoted By: >>54775042 >>54775064 >>54775576

>>54775016
I just want favoritism for Mothim, why doesnt any romhacker like him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 15:54:01 No.54775031 Report

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>>54775016
Yeah, it just gets annoying having to recall whatever is the author's pet favorite suddenly walloping you because you didn't expect something like a Granbull to just sweep because you usually have an idea of it's strength. It's also more fun to actually succeed with shitmons when they're actually shit and not just given +50 to every base stats and every move it ever needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 15:54:56 No.54775042 Report

Quoted By: >>54775064

>>54775030
because he’s just a moth
even Venomoth is more interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 15:58:20 No.54775064 Report

Quoted By: >>54775181 >>54775538 >>54775645

>>54775030
>>54775042
The whole "nobody likes Mothra" bullshit all over again.
What do you have against giant kaiju moths? They are cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 15:58:51 No.54775069 Report

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I feel like Polished Crystal is the only one of these I've seen that put thought into every single monster it reworked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:08:56 No.54775123 Report

Quoted By: >>54775136

>>54774997
Renegade Platinum basically made it a special glass cannon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:11:16 No.54775136 Report

Quoted By: >>54775163

>>54775123
Right because we definitely need more of those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:13:37 No.54775157 Report

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>>54774997
Nobody gives a fuck about mothim i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:14:11 No.54775163 Report

Quoted By: >>54775173 >>54775576

>>54775136
Yeah, so now you can actually use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:15:08 No.54775173 Report

Quoted By: >>54775221

>>54775163
Or I could use one of the other special glass canons that don't have a dogshit typing. Maybe they should have made it Bug Steel to balance it further.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:15:13 No.54775177 Report

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>>54774997
The problem with 'rebalance' romhacks is that they also heighten the difficulty to such absurd degrees that these 'buffed' mons go right back to being unusable in a playthrough.

Looking at you, Radical Red.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:16:21 No.54775181 Report

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>>54775064
what the fuck but mothra is my favorite
why dont people like moths theyre so awesome :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:23:55 No.54775221 Report

Quoted By: >>54775233 >>54775413 >>54775433

>>54775173
Mothim in RenPlat is interesting and perfectly usable. Bug/Flying attackers have always been held back by shit stats in gen 1-4. You don't need to minmax that hard in it anyway, it's not that difficult of a game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:25:51 No.54775233 Report

Quoted By: >>54775264 >>54775338

>>54775221
>it's not difficult when every shitmon is a stab nuke
brilliant insight, you should work for gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:30:15 No.54775264 Report

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>>54775233
Ok bro, I'll give Mothim 800 BST in my romhack just for you :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:42:49 No.54775337 Report

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>>54775016
So GF favoritism good but other favoritism bad?
i barely play romhacks but the main games have just as much arbitrary favoritism

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:42:54 No.54775338 Report

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>>54775233
NTA but Mothim should be a STAB nuke, in a hypothetical where every mon has some form of niche. Tinted Lens is the only thing going for it and when working with that your best option is to give it the power it needs to be able to abuse such an ability. The bigger problem would be differentiating it from Yanmega, but the easy way to get around that is making it a physical attacking focused mon instead of a speedy special one like Yanmega currently is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:43:40 No.54775340 Report

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>>54774997
Gay sex with Mothim

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:52:54 No.54775413 Report

Quoted By: >>54775438

>>54775221
what is interesting about clicking bug buzz with a focus sash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:56:52 No.54775433 Report

Quoted By: >>54775565

>>54775221
why would you ever use mothim over yanmega, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:57:23 No.54775438 Report

Quoted By: >>54775452

>>54775413
you can do that vs it doing absolutely nothing and dying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 16:59:59 No.54775452 Report

Quoted By: >>54775459

>>54775438
coming up with a strategy to keep a shitmon alive is much more interesting than yet another special nuke but with dogshit type coverage, both offensively and defensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:00:47 No.54775455 Report

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>>54774997
>66 spd
Damn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:02:18 No.54775459 Report

Quoted By: >>54775485

>>54775452
name one way you're keeping it alive and isn't just wasting your time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:06:04 No.54775485 Report

Quoted By: >>54775492

>>54775459
figure it out yourself, should be an interesting project

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:06:51 No.54775492 Report

Quoted By: >>54775517

>>54775485
so there is none, i accept your concession

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:09:26 No.54775517 Report

Quoted By: >>54775521 >>54775532

>>54775492
Even in D/P it has roost and substitute, surely you could do something with that big brain of yours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:10:20 No.54775521 Report

Quoted By: >>54775545

>>54775517
>dies in 1-2 hits anyway
wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:12:09 No.54775529 Report

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>>54774997
I never saw a romhack that buff mons give some boost to Rhyperior.
Talk about bitches...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:12:28 No.54775532 Report

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>>54775517
if only it wasn't a shitty frail bug/flying type, spamming double team/roost/substitute before clicking Silver Wind over and over hoping for Omniboost would be funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:13:11 No.54775538 Report

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>>54775064
Everyone likes Volcarona.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:14:40 No.54775545 Report

Quoted By: >>54775574

>>54775521
hey you're the one in love with nothing shitmon, if your best idea to make it better is 130 speed and attack then maybe your brain isn't so big after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:18:28 No.54775565 Report

Quoted By: >>54775664

>>54775433
Mothim's base speed is higher and is easily available earlier. I agree a physical version would be more interesting, but Megahorn, Drill Peck, Brave Bird etc. don't make much sense on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:19:30 No.54775574 Report

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>>54775545
>no u
i accept your concession

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:19:42 No.54775576 Report

Quoted By: >>54775677 >>54775709

>>54775016
>>54775030
>>54775163
What romhack autists don't understand is that not every Pokemon is made to be used
It's Gotta CATCH 'em all, not Gotta TRAIN 'em all
Just use Charizard and Lucario like a normal, non-autistic person and look at your favorites in the box

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:29:03 No.54775635 Report

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>wormadam gets a new move where it sacrifices some of its cloak and spreads it across the battlefield
>essentially just substitute + setting grassy terrain, stealth rock or spikes depending on the type of wormadam
>mothim gets a new move where it gathers up materials to make a cloak, acting as roost but also buffing its defenses with each use

congrats now they're usable in ZU (maybe (not really))

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:30:00 No.54775645 Report

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>>54775064
people like Mothra
people don’t like a regular-ass moth

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:32:19 No.54775664 Report

Quoted By: >>54775689

>>54775565
>Mothim’s base speed is higher
retard confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:33:48 No.54775677 Report

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>>54775576
noo every shitmon should have Garchomp's stat spread because oneshotting everything is what makes a good pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:36:15 No.54775689 Report

Quoted By: >>54775710

>>54775664
>100 vs 95
Nope, we're talking about RenPlat here. You're not guaranteed Speed Boost on Yanmega either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:39:41 No.54775709 Report

Quoted By: >>54775724

>>54775576
I subscribe to Karen's philosophy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:39:41 No.54775710 Report

Quoted By: >>54775717 >>54775721

>>54775689
What the fuck do you mean not guaranteed? Catch one that does have it then. Speed Boost is so hilariously overpowered on anything that isn't purposely awful like Ninjask that not having it just makes you a joke compared to something that does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:41:21 No.54775717 Report

Quoted By: >>54775730

>>54775710
>purposely awful like Ninjask
you give it a Focus Sash
you click Protect
you click Swords Dance
then you click Baton Pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:42:04 No.54775721 Report

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>>54775710
I don't feel like it and I don't need to if Mothim is good enough for the same role :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:42:32 No.54775724 Report

Quoted By: >>54775741 >>54775794

>>54775709
>Strong Pokemon. Weak Pokemon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should play romhacks where their favorites are reskinned Gengar.

Such powerful words in a children's game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:43:37 No.54775730 Report

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>>54775717
or you give Yanmega a focus sash and it doesn't need to baton pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:44:54 No.54775741 Report

Quoted By:

>>54775724
>Playing rebalance hacks.
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 17:51:50 No.54775794 Report

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>>54775724
we should go the opposite direction and add reskinned blisseys and umbreons instead, that will be much more fun :D

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