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Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 12:12:03 No.54803525 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54804722 >>54804742 >>54805154

Zamazenta Buff

New Moves for him:
Bulk Up (I'm surprised it doesn't learn Bulk Up, Lycanroc, also a wolf, does), Swords Dance (He is a warrior...and Lycanroc also learns), Counter, Endeavour, ExtremeSpeed, Taunt, Protect becomes King's Shield in Crowned Form, Moonlight (because he is a wolf), Slack Off, Knock Off

New (ideal) signature move, also for Zacian
Blessing Howl ( Heals status and recovers 50% of HP, 5 PP)

Thoughts and ideas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 17:33:27 No.54804697 Report

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Rocket too weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 17:37:07 No.54804711 Report

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Make Behemoth Bash use Defense to calculate damage just like Body Press.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 17:38:59 No.54804722 Report

Quoted By: >>54804728

>>54803525
>Bulk Up (I'm surprised it doesn't learn Bulk Up, Lycanroc, also a wolf, does), Swords Dance (He is a warrior...and Lycanroc also learns)
You realize that Zamazenta can just buff its defense and attack with STAB body press, right?
Insisting on its attack is completely pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 17:40:05 No.54804728 Report

Quoted By: >>54804785

>>54804722
It needs coverage moves like Crunch or Iron Head to be viable

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 17:42:57 No.54804742 Report

Quoted By: >>54804751 >>54804881

>>54803525
>Already fast with decent attack
>Can spam STAB body press
>Ability and Iron Defense further makes it more effective
>Has coverage like Crunch, Iron Head, Psychic Fangs, CC
>"Let's buff this mon! Any ideas guys?!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 17:44:44 No.54804751 Report

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>>54804742
>redditjak
And just like that, any point you're trying to make? It's worthless and wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 17:53:34 No.54804785 Report

Quoted By: >>54804932

>>54804728
He already runs those effectively without needing to replace iron defense with inferior options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 18:14:50 No.54804881 Report

Quoted By: >>54804958 >>54805136

>>54804742
Zamazenta is literally the weakest super legendary. Yes, he has Body Press which combined with Iron Defense can become extremely dangerous and spastic. But with Crunch, it can't do much damage to Ghost types that fully counter it, especially with Will O Wisp. In short, it's not much of a threat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 18:22:52 No.54804932 Report

Quoted By: >>54804971

>>54804785
>He alreAAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEE *gets burned by dragapult and dies*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 18:27:23 No.54804958 Report

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>>54804881
>Zamazenta is literally the weakest super legendary
Nowhere near as much as Kyurem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 18:28:57 No.54804971 Report

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>>54804932
Just switch out.
Boosting defense and using body press as primary STAB offers more value than able to stay in on a few counters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 18:45:06 No.54805064 Report

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He looks really cool in his HoMB form but looks like shit in CS form. Zacian is the opposite. I picked Sword because she looked better on the cover, but now I regret it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 18:54:19 No.54805110 Report

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King’s Shield
Behemoth Bash
Body Press
Moonlight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 18:59:52 No.54805136 Report

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>>54804881
>Zamazenta is literally the weakest super legendary.
Kyurem exists. If Lugia ever comes back with a gutted movepool, it too is a contender. A bunch of other shitty legendaries do if you wanna branch out. They deserve it more than this thing does.
>with Crunch, it can't do much damage to Ghost types
That's the point. It's built around the niche of being arguably the best body presser, but can be hard bodied by ghosties so it's not overwhelmingly retarded.
>especially with Will O Wisp.
The story of like 98% of every physical attacker in the game that isn't a busted mixed attacker like Iron Valiant. Your point?
>In short, it's not much of a threat.
In Ubers sure. But there's a reason why the crowned version was not only banned in fanfic OU meta formats, but it's weaker form was in talks for a while due to what I've mentioned.

Anyways, if this was SwSh Zam, sure. But it's literally in a fine place rn. I promise you a boxart legendary with uber stats, a free 1 time defense boost when switching in, and the solid niche of body press defense is a miracle compared to the shit GF does to other mons. Nor does it need some of the dumb shit OP mentioned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 19:04:53 No.54805154 Report

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>>54803525
>New Moves for him:
>Bulk Up, Swords Dance
Already get's iron defense as a counter part to zacian's swords dance. Zamazenta is a shield not a sword

>Counter, Endeavour
I like both of these thematically. Odd he doesn't already learn counter really

>ExtremeSpeed,
I see no reason he should get this

>Taunt, Protect becomes King's Shield in Crowned Form
Sure. Also king's shield being exclusive to crowned is a neat touch

>Moonlight, Slack Off,
I don't really think he needs healing moves with the other buffs

>Knock Off
Sure

>New (ideal) signature move, also for Zacian
>Blessing Howl ( Heals status and recovers 50% of HP, 5 PP)
Low PP could make this less broken, but really I think it's too much, especially for Zacian

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