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Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 12:44:16 No.54853960 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54854103 >>54854506 >>54856174 >>54856181 >>54856261 >>54856669 >>54859378 >>54860414 >>54861107

We all know Kyurem is getting its original form in the BW remake, but will Zygarde and beyond get new forms when their remakes arrive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 12:46:58 No.54853970 Report

Quoted By: >>54854322 >>54854522

Anyone who spergs about the original dragon didn't actually understand the plot of BW and BW2, games made for literal children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 12:55:22 No.54853994 Report

Quoted By: >>54854032 >>54854117 >>54855560

Zygarde got what it got in Sun and Moon, it won't get another form, just like Giratina didn't get another form in Sinnoh Anniversary. Maybe Xerneas and Yveltal get Mega evolution, or some new form. Of course, it depends on how faithful the remakes will be compared to the originals. I hope it's not a copy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 13:09:03 No.54854032 Report

Quoted By: >>54854085 >>54854117 >>54854972

>>54853994
Counterpoint: Rayquaza got a mega to be on the same league as Groudon and Kyogre's new forms, but Giratina didn't need anything else to be on the same league as Dialga and Palkia's new forms. If XY remakes give Xerneas and Yveltal new forms, Zygarde will absolutely need an extra form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 13:30:58 No.54854085 Report

Quoted By: >>54854094

>>54854032
Counterpoint: you are contradicting yourself, if Giratina didn't get a new form cus it didn't need it, why would Zygarde need a new form if it doesn't need it?
If anything, Xerneas and Yveltal would need 2 new forms each (10% and Complete) and I'm not even counting Cell and Core forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 13:36:28 No.54854094 Report

Quoted By: >>54854112 >>54854120

>>54854085
>why would Zygarde need a new form if it doesn't need it?
Because he would need it, are you out of your mind? How the fuck could Zygarde possibly compete with Xerneas and Yveltal if they got megas?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 13:40:53 No.54854103 Report

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>>54853960
>She actually thinks BW remakes are happening

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 13:44:17 No.54854112 Report

Quoted By: >>54854133

>>54854094
>How the fuck could Zygarde possibly compete with Xerneas and Yveltal if they got megas?
Play the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 13:46:09 No.54854117 Report

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>>54854032
>>54853994
Imagine how retardly strong would be Xerneas and Yveltal, already OP as fuck legendaries, if they got the +100 BST boost of megaevolution.
And imagine what would they give to Zygarde to make it even even stronger.
>Mega Xerneas/Yveltal with 780 BST like Mega Mewtwo and Mega Rayquaza
>Primal Zygarde with 808 BST above anything that isn't Eternamax Eternatus unplayable form

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 13:47:34 No.54854120 Report

Quoted By: >>54854133

>>54854094
Yeah and how the fuck could Giratina compete with Dialga and Palkia if they got origin forms - oh wait

Complete form Zygarde has 708 BST while normal Zygarde has 600, megas get +100 BST so the form change is already on par with a mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 13:50:33 No.54854133 Report

Quoted By: >>54854319

>>54854112
>>54854120
Anon, you are fully aware perfect Zygarde is roughly on the same level as current Xerneas and Yvelta, right? Sure, he's way stronger "in lore", but "in lore", normal Rayquaza is also stronger than Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre.
They still knew it would have been ridiculous to have normal Rayquaza next to Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre, so they gave him a super form that makes it retardly OP too.

Origin Giratina is the third legendary equivalent to Origin Dialga and Origin Palkia.
Mega Rayquaza is the third legendary equivalent to Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre.
Perfect Zygarde is the third legendary equivalent to NORMAL Xerneas and NORMAL Yveltal, not to their hypothetical future super forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 14:54:50 No.54854319 Report

Quoted By: >>54854357

>>54854133
So what you're saying is that Xerneas and Yveltal would need a 10% and 50% forms? What a waste, it's not like base stats even matter, but if they do then look at Rayquaza, it's above Groudon and Kyogre and there's no need for an item to activate the mega, they aren't equal either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 14:55:55 No.54854322 Report

Quoted By: >>54854495

>>54853970
>n-no you don’t get it the game is SUPPOSED to be unfinished!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 15:07:43 No.54854357 Report

Quoted By: >>54855109

>>54854319
>So what you're saying is that Xerneas and Yveltal would need a 10% and 50% forms?
Please tell me you are shitposting. No way in hell anyone could consume enough drugs to have his reading comprehension this halted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 15:44:30 No.54854495 Report

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>>54854322
>unfinished!
The original dragon was never intended to be catchable only to be a myth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 15:45:39 No.54854506 Report

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>>54853960
Would make more sense for the cover legendaries to get a new form, like it happened for Dialga and Palkia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 15:48:16 No.54854522 Report

Quoted By: >>54855030

>>54853970
>plot of BW is N realizing that truth and ideals aren't actual opposites and that people with differences can work together
>region's theme is about connecting different people from all over the world, both figuratively and literally with bridges connecting different parts of the region
>region is literally called UNova as in "Unification" or "United", and in Japanese Isshu literally comes from "one" as in despite the differences everyone can be seen as "one"
>"NOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT KYUREM BECOMING ONE AGAIN BY ACCEPTING BOTH TRUTH AND IDEALS IS AGAINST THE POINT OF THE GAME"
lmao what a massive cope, the gen was just a rushed unfinished mess, and it's incredibly obvious they meant to put the original dragon in because of the god stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:08:50 No.54854918 Report

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>inb4 Xerneas and Yveltal get new mega forms except not really, because instead of getting stronger, their powers get restrained by Zygarde's cells, who end up fusing with Xerneas/ Yveltal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:22:02 No.54854972 Report

Quoted By: >>54854978

>>54854032
No, because they already "need" new forms to be equal to Zygarde in the first place.
They also don't need new forms at all, Zygarde just needs its own game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:22:54 No.54854978 Report

Quoted By: >>54854991

>>54854972
> Zygarde just needs its own game
Sun and Moon was its own game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:26:11 No.54854991 Report

Quoted By: >>54855010

>>54854978
>a game where it's a sidenote is its own game
Retarded take, you and I both know I mean it should have a game where it's the box legendary, like Arceus got.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:26:47 No.54854995 Report

Quoted By: >>54855023 >>54855053 >>54855081

>Gen 5 remakes will be BW3
>Gen 6 remakes will be Z Version

I thought you retards learned after last time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:32:00 No.54855010 Report

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>>54854991
Rayquaza is even more of a side note in Emerald than Zygarde is in SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:36:05 No.54855023 Report

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>>54854995
One of the few accurate 'jak images.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:39:01 No.54855030 Report

Quoted By: >>54857561

>>54854522
Not literally, N doesn't accept his ideals as inferior or the protagonist's as better, but he can now see the greater scheme of things. Opposites can exist as equals. Equally valid, the original Dragon shits on this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:44:22 No.54855053 Report

Quoted By: >>54855085

>>54854995
reminder that PLA was gamefreak's gen 4 remake and ILCA was contracted to make BDSP so retards like your pic didn't sperg out because it was different

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:51:17 No.54855081 Report

Quoted By: >>54855095 >>54855280 >>54855645 >>54856033

>>54854995
Khu said we'll be getting a brand new non-remake game set in Unova thoughever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:52:06 No.54855085 Report

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>>54855053
instead discerning customers sperged out over BDSP being bar none the laziest entries in the entire series

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:55:31 No.54855095 Report

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>>54855081
>thoughever
this isn't a word, is it a meme or something? why am i seeing people say it so often here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 17:59:15 No.54855109 Report

Quoted By: >>54855272

>>54854357
That's all you have as a counterargument? Weak, Zygarde doesn't need yet another form, if the problem is base stats (which it isn't) boost the 50% base stats then, there ya go now they are equal I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 18:31:00 No.54855272 Report

Quoted By:

>>54855109
>just randomly make it stronger... BUT WITHOUT A FORM OKAY?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 18:32:26 No.54855280 Report

Quoted By:

>>54855081
>Khu
So we're not getting a new Unova game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 19:23:39 No.54855560 Report

Quoted By:

>>54853994
>Future Xerneas and Past Yveltal
I can see it happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 19:38:56 No.54855645 Report

Quoted By: >>54856164

>>54855081
"though" or "however"
pick a lane and stick with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 21:09:44 No.54856033 Report

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>>54855081
But did he SAY that, or is just a common interpretation you guys are pushing, like when he "said" megas would return, only for him to have never said anything like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 21:37:06 No.54856164 Report

Quoted By:

>>54855645
thowever
houghever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 21:39:45 No.54856174 Report

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>>54853960
Kyurem will be kyurem, reshiram AND zekrom, though its also possible itll just be a paradox. It definitely will be something unexpected i believe

zygarde will be even more unexpected. I cant really guess what it'll be, but my only guess is an eternamax type of thing (which isnt gimmick related, he just reunites his pieces. though a megazygarde would be interesting)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 21:41:51 No.54856181 Report

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>>54853960

>>54854885

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Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 21:59:29 No.54856261 Report

Quoted By: >>54856771

>>54853960
Sleipner, fucking clever, since we already have Fenrir, Jörmungandr, Hel, with Nari and Vali as the two core forms of Zigarde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 22:58:18 No.54856669 Report

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>>54853960
zygarde's will probably just be its 100% form in its own game, it's the other two will get new forms, more than likely megas. after all this is exactly what happened with arceus in its own game, it was already complete while dialga and palkia got new forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 23:13:30 No.54856771 Report

Quoted By: >>54857024 >>54857042 >>54858057

>>54856261
>jörmungandr
i was under the impression 50% was meant to be níðhöggr

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Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 23:49:33 No.54857024 Report

Quoted By: >>54857365 >>54858057

>>54856771
It could be, Pokémon can be interpreted in many ways, perhaps as a whole Zigarde represents that snake, but separately the children of Loki.

We could even exaggerate and explain that Mega Gardevoir and Shiny Mega Gardevoir are the elves that live in Alfheim and Svartalfaheim.

But enough of that, the only thing I would like to know is where is my gossiping squirrel among the legendaries of Kalos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 23:53:31 No.54857038 Report

Quoted By: >>54859320

the dialga/palkia origin forms are even weaker than the originals, so 50% versions of xerneas and yveltal wouldn't be unprecedented

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Nov 2023 23:54:32 No.54857042 Report

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>>54856771
it's nidhoggr in the context of xerneas and yveltal, and jormungandr in the context of its other forms

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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 01:03:58 No.54857365 Report

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>>54857024
>Mega Gardevoir and Shiny Mega Gardevoir are the elves that live in Alfheim and Svartalfaheim.
I knew it

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Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 01:44:23 No.54857547 Report

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Zygarde schizoposting is one of the better things about /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 01:48:00 No.54857561 Report

Quoted By:

>>54855030
>Opposites can exist as equals.
so in other words, two opposing forces can see eye to eye and come together to form something greater?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 04:03:59 No.54858057 Report

Quoted By:

>>54856771
>>54857024
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be both. More Jörmungandr because the other forms are the other children of Loki and Angrboda, but pokemon get inspired by multiples creatures all the time.
Hell, considering the Fenrir forme followed the release of SUN and MOON I would say it's Fenrir but also Sköll and Hati

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 17:02:18 No.54859320 Report

Quoted By:

>>54857038
>the dialga/palkia origin forms are even weaker than the originals
No?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 17:18:46 No.54859378 Report

Quoted By: >>54860143

>>54853960
Zygarde will see its Complete forme buffed to have Aura Break (that also boosts Ground type moves) and it’ll also be a permanent forme change, like Deoxys or the Genies’ forme changes.

Core Enforcer will also be buffed to hit Fairy types

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 19:47:47 No.54860143 Report

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>>54859378
Just change Aura Break for something else entirely, if Ogerpon can have 5 fucking abilities then Zygarde can have three

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 20:13:28 No.54860258 Report

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They won't be able to call it Pokemon Black and White anymore. It will have to be called Pokemon Broke and Woke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 20:44:55 No.54860414 Report

Quoted By: >>54860880

>>54853960
It's funny you're already talking about Gen 5 remakes where the Gen 4 remakes were atrocious and boring.
t. Terminally online genwunner that can't believe the Gen 4 remakes were a flavor of the month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 22:01:51 No.54860880 Report

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>>54860414
The real gen 4 remake was Legends, which is honestly such a radical improvement I can't believe they came from DP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 22:37:42 No.54861107 Report

Quoted By: >>54861162

>>54853960
why are fan works so much cooler and better looking than the official stuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Nov 2023 22:48:10 No.54861162 Report

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>>54861107
don't let the shills hear that or they'll pull out their five page essays about how eiscue is peak fictional creature design because turner said it makes sense

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