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Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 08:11:05 No.54863745 View View Reply Original Report

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Did these guys really “flop” sales wise or is that just discourse spread by big kalos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 08:17:21 No.54863759 Report

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Kalosgods truly live rent free huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 08:26:14 No.54863786 Report

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>>54863745
the third versions always sold less due to people who already bought the originals not being able to justify purchasing the same game a second time - even when it was objectively a better version. BW2 actually being actual sequels probably didn't affect the decisions of those folks much.
it's good they stopped making third versions because it was unquestionably anti-consumer

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Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 08:30:50 No.54863803 Report

Quoted By: >>54863945 >>54863970 >>54865348

>>54863745
the two big reasons why B2W2 flopped are:
>third versions always sold worse than their initial counterparts
>piracy of DS games was incredibly easy and extremely widespread by the time they released

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 08:54:56 No.54863863 Report

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>>54863745
>Did these guys really “flop” sales wise
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 09:07:23 No.54863890 Report

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Considering it was sold as a sequel, 8million units compared to BW’s 15 was pretty tragic. Especially since the game is more fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 09:28:28 No.54863945 Report

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>>54863803
Also the DS was beyond old news by then, so nobody wanted to buy "outdated" games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 09:36:32 No.54863970 Report

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>>54863803
Also, the 3DS had already been out foe more than a year, so it's difficult to justify buying a full priced game for an outdated system. It would be like paying $60 for a Wii game in 2014.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 09:44:04 No.54863997 Report

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>>54863945
>>54863970
Considering the dream radar it seems they wanted you to play B2W2 on the 3ds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 11:55:41 No.54864387 Report

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>>54863745
Yeah, I remember Mists of Pandaria had just release and all my friends were playing WoW instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 14:06:39 No.54864807 Report

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>>54863745
Sales have never equaled quality anyway, you should disregard any retard making that argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:10:03 No.54865060 Report

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>No Pokemaina bonus
>No GO bonus
>No new console bonus
>DS piracy was at its peak
Gen 5 came out in an awkward time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:14:40 No.54865081 Report

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>>54864807
don’t worry, BW2 has shit quality as well.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:19:16 No.54865096 Report

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"flop" has been rendered a completely meaningless term only ever trudged out to start arguments.
did a game make its money back? yes? then it's not a flop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:21:22 No.54865102 Report

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>>54863745
They're the third best selling "upper version" and that's counting Yellow which is literally from Gen 1.

Keep in mind that "flopping" for /vp/ has nothing to do with sales numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:30:46 No.54865138 Report

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>>54863745
It's just third world propaganda due to them being obsessed with Unova.
Most game franchises would kill to sell 14 million copies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:31:47 No.54865142 Report

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>>54865138
Meant to say 7 million

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Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:44:26 No.54865215 Report

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>Reuses 90% of BW's assets.
>Sells more than Crystal, Emerald and Platinum.
>Its fans are obsessed with considering it a failure to continue with the victimhood story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:46:46 No.54865224 Report

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>>54865215
It's a logical story you can't seem to refute. Why are frog posters always like this?

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Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:48:44 No.54865234 Report

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>>54863745
As third versions they sold fine
As sequels yes they flopped

The fact that they're literally sequels but people still see them as third versions goes to show how fucking lazy and rehashy they are, it seems like they gave up making the game actually feel like a sequel after the 2nd gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:50:16 No.54865244 Report

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>>54863745
only terminally online nintendo fanboys think selling 8 million copies is a flop

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:50:18 No.54865245 Report

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>>54865234
What are you talking about? They're sequels in every sense, every character and town has developed, as well as the entire story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:50:19 No.54865246 Report

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>>54865234
discord post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:51:54 No.54865249 Report

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>>54865245
>They're sequels in every sense
when I play sequels I don't typically get copy/pasted dialogue and maps up the ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:52:11 No.54865251 Report

Quoted By: >>54865267

Not a single mainline Pokemon game has flopped. Pokemon is literally incapable of flopping. What a pathetic thread. Kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:55:43 No.54865267 Report

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>>54865251
>Pokemon is literally incapable of flopping
>What is detective Pikachu returns

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 15:57:41 No.54865279 Report

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>>54865267
>what is mainline Pokemon
Holy shit you fucking retard, learn to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:04:40 No.54865322 Report

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>>54865267
>mainline
until the holiday season where the kiddies can get a hold of it we have no idea if it's actually a flop or not

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Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:05:48 No.54865331 Report

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Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:07:01 No.54865339 Report

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>>54863745
>big kalos
that aside, big kalos WISHES B2W2 flopped because of XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:08:42 No.54865348 Report

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>>54863803
ultra sun/moon sold more even though piracy was piss easy on 3ds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:10:36 No.54865357 Report

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should i play bw before bw2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:11:10 No.54865361 Report

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>>54865357
yes. it just makes sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:13:28 No.54865364 Report

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>>54865357
yes
you'll probably get bored out of your mind before you can finish either though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:20:15 No.54865398 Report

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>>54865234
Can someone please do this with FRLG -> HGSS lol
I want the discord brigade to see how idiotic their arguments are. Shouldn't you be scapegoating Gen 6 for Gen 7's flaws right now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:21:51 No.54865408 Report

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>>54865398
>Can someone please do this with FRLG -> HGSS lol
Not possible because GSC/HGSS actually put effort into making the game feel like a sequel. The only thing that would come close to reused dialogue is the old man staring into Erika's gym that's clearly just there as a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:31:37 No.54865451 Report

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>>54865408
>reusing dialogue is bad and lazy
>until it isn't
case in point

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:39:29 No.54865494 Report

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>>54865348
Shut the fuck up you BITCH
YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHING
YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHING
FUCKING
CHUD
PIRACY
IS
A
CRIME
AND
YOU
WILL
BE
PUNISHED
FOR
IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 16:41:43 No.54865506 Report

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>>54865451
>perverted old man still peeks at girls 3 years later and has similar but not copy/pasted dialogue
makes sense

>half the fucking npcs in the game still stand in the exact same place and still have the exact same copy/pasted dialogue
doesn’t make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Nov 2023 21:18:51 No.54866723 Report

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>>54865081
Sorry, you are wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Nov 2023 00:24:05 No.54867828 Report

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>>54865506
Look at that anon's image again. He's there for a purpose, and that's to give you Flash, and saying what it does. Give me another non DLC rehash that changed as much as B2W2.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Nov 2023 04:09:38 No.54868917 Report

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>>54863745
Game freak Pokémon games sell a shit.ton of copies, even the lower selling games still sell more copies than some big Aaa games from other devs. So I don't understand this narrative that Game Freak is making games less like BW 2 based on sales numbers. So no, no Pokémon game they've made is a flop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Nov 2023 04:13:07 No.54868937 Report

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>>54865364
but enough about X&Y

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