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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2023 20:10:28 No.54896411 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>54896451 >>54897452 >>54898149 >>54899491

>It has what could be considered one of the worst typings
>It has an ABYSMALLY low Attack AND Iron Fist as Hidden Ability
>Its movepool screams "mediocre support and bad offensive"
>At least looks cool

They did my boy dirty.
If this guy ever evolves, he should become a Bug/Normal pokemon with huge attack.
If they ever add the Cosmic type, she should be then Bug/Cosmic. Dang

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2023 20:15:05 No.54896451 Report

Quoted By: >>54896482 >>54897452 >>54898162

>>54896411
Anon, it's ok for some pokemon to be complete shitmons.
The games are piss easy anyways, just use your favourite shitmon bro in game and it may even provide some additional challenge

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2023 20:20:38 No.54896482 Report

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>>54896451
Far from my favorite bug type or flying type, I just recently found out about its stats and was surprised about how crap it is. It is not hard to buff a pokemon or at least have some useful niche use. But this is not that useful for even that.

I think it looks cool tho, and I think I might try to catch one in Diamond for the Pokemon Contest. I just hope its movepool will be decent for that too

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2023 23:01:47 No.54897452 Report

Quoted By: >>54897536 >>54899786

>>54896411
What's weirds is that the common "Gen 2 mons all suck lol " stereotype especially doesn't apply here because Gen 2 is exactly when they started allowing to Bug types to have be good or at least have niches other an early game fodder. And later Gens have been fairy good to the other Gen 2 Bugs. Even Ariados got several decent utility moves, an actual ability, and a 10+ BST increase, its still the bottom of the barrel but at least its in the barrel unlike Ledian.

Even weirder, if the leaks are true, then Ledian is literally the only Gen2 Pokémon that won't be in a Switch game outside of BDSP, (Unown managed to make it into Legends and even got a buff via Hidden Power being super effective against everything and being the only Pokemon allowed to keep Hidden Power).

>>54896451
compshit isn't everything, but even in game Ledian a complete shitmon even by complete shitmons standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2023 23:16:47 No.54897536 Report

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>>54897452
>compshit isn't everything, but even in game Ledian a complete shitmon even by complete shitmons standards.
True, why would you ever want a Ledian when Butterfree is available at the exact same time and it is vastly more usuble (not good mind you but still usuble at least). And of course Heracross makes every other bug irrelevant a few routes later

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2023 23:22:39 No.54897571 Report

Quoted By: >>54897790

I hate orbeetle, but this is probably what game freak thinks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 00:04:32 No.54897790 Report

Quoted By: >>54898203 >>54898283

>>54897571
This but with garganacl instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:13:40 No.54898128 Report

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give her a hero form

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:18:02 No.54898149 Report

Quoted By: >>54898203 >>54898252 >>54899564

>>54896411
>Ability: Multiarm
>moves deal x0.25 damage but hit four times in a row
Is it usable now?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:19:44 No.54898162 Report

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>>54896451
>Anon, it's ok for some pokemon to be complete shitmons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:26:25 No.54898203 Report

Quoted By: >>54898212 >>54898252 >>54898257

>>54897790
garganacl is better than gigalith overall but gigalith at least has its own niche with sand stream. ledian's got nothing going for it
>>54898149
>34% chance to freeze with ice punch
>76% to flinch with air slash
maybe on a meme team

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:28:34 No.54898212 Report

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>>54898203
>garganacl is better than gigalith
this is the same as "ledian is better than orbeetle" tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:38:20 No.54898252 Report

Quoted By: >>54898306

>>54898203
>Air slash
>MultiARM

I mean, the other anon didnt specify about the ability, but i think such ability would only apply for either contact moves or punching moves only

>>54898149
>Is it usable now
No, but your idea for an ability is great actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:39:24 No.54898257 Report

Quoted By: >>54899721

>>54898203
don't forget power up punch, becomes 70bp and gives you +4 atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:45:34 No.54898283 Report

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>>54897790
Garganacl is a better Regirock if anything. Gigalith is more comparable to Ttar(Rockmons with Sand Stream)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 01:53:00 No.54898306 Report

Quoted By: >>54899453

>>54898252
Ice Punch and Headbutt would still make that miserable to play against.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 05:39:48 No.54899453 Report

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>>54898306
Freeze needs to be reworked (What legends did was interesting but I don't think Frostbite is the solution), as for Flinch, just make it so that pokemon can not be flinched by the same move 2 twice in a row.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 05:50:52 No.54899491 Report

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>>54896411
Ugliest gen 2 mon and ugliest bug type, it was so funny to me when they literally made "Ledian but better" in gen 8 instead of giving it anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 05:52:36 No.54899498 Report

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Smogon mind broke the pokemon fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 06:12:17 No.54899564 Report

Quoted By: >>54899669

>>54898149
I had a similar idea for it, just get rid of the .25% modifier and only have it only apply to punching attacks. It's stats are so low that it would still only be doing chip damage and would only be fishing for whatever flinch or status it can apply. Just now if it fails it at least gets in a little damage instead of basically nothing.

The downside is there'd be a million complaints about machamp not having the ability too, but oh well.

Give it dynamic punch too, or a similar move with higher accuracy and a lower chance to confuse. Doesn't have to be a move exclusive to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 06:46:59 No.54899669 Report

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>>54899564
Now that would be enough to make ledian broken. Even on the back of 35 base attack a 4x damage multiplier on attacks combined with the flat stats you get from EVs and IVs is equivalent to a base attack of fucking 280. You even have set-up with power-up punch, priority with mach punch, and solid coverage with high status chance with ice punch and thunder punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 07:04:32 No.54899721 Report

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>>54898257
>don't forget power up punch
Anon, I have some bad news about Power-Up Punch...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Nov 2023 07:23:28 No.54899786 Report

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>>54897452
>Unown managed to make it into Legends
No it didn't, you're lying.

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