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/RCG/ - Razor Carrier General

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:32:58 No.54916655 View View Reply Original Report

Prev: lol

This is not raid cat general. You've been had, bamboozled, tricked and ultimately misled. This thread is for discussing creatures that carry razor-like items, such as Hisuian Samurott, currently in 7* Raid Battles. This thread is not for trading or wifi battling. Head to /wfg/ for that.
Organize raids. Share builds for raids.

>Latest
>the samurott you're here for

>Resources
https://pastebin.com/hxZGm1QK

>FAQ
https://pastebin.com/D2mYv7L7

>/rcg/ OP Template
https://rentry.org/aheu5

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:33:29 No.54916656 Report

Quoted By: >>54916676 >>54917054 >>54917475

Goodra-Hisui @ Shell Bell
Ability: Shell Armor
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Acid Spray
- Thunderbolt
- Shelter

>click acid spray 3x. doesnt matter if you die. i did twice
>tera and start clicking thunderbolt
>once he clears his own debuffs (he only does this once, at 50% hp), shelter to be on the safe side, then acid spray 3x again
>click thunderbolt til hes dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:36:21 No.54916676 Report

Quoted By: >>54916692

>>54916656
Could it be doable with a regular Goodra?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:37:35 No.54916681 Report

Quoted By: >>54916701

oh shit yours is way better
I didn’t even think anyone else would bother making rcg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:39:09 No.54916692 Report

Quoted By: >>54916719

>>54916676
Regular Goodra doesn't have Shell Armor, which is important to avoid increased crit ratio from Razor Shell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:40:49 No.54916701 Report

Quoted By: >>54916738

>>54916681
oh i never saw yours, sorry. i figured out the build and came to post it here but i didnt see one up so i just made it myself
i was the opanon who made these and all the autismo infographs way way back when they were a regular general lol, that was many moons ago though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:41:36 No.54916707 Report

Quoted By: >>54916715

How do these sound for Samurott?

Ninetales-Alola @ Never-Melt Ice
Ability: Snow Cloak
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Freeze-Dry
- Snowscape
- Nasty Plot
- Aurora Veil

Articuno @ Never-Melt Ice
Ability: Snow Cloak
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Freeze-Dry
- Roost
- Snowscape
- Reflect

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:42:54 No.54916715 Report

Quoted By: >>54916724

>>54916707
articuno has no damage and ninetales is iffy because he purges your buffs so much more often than he clears his own debuffs. they learned from regular samurott and made him purge you constantly to gimp anger point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:43:29 No.54916719 Report

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>>54916692
I'm wrong, Razor Shell doesn't have high critical ratio. I must have mixed it with other slashing moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:44:20 No.54916724 Report

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>>54916715
I see, i'm still trying to figure out if freeze dry is a viable option or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:46:33 No.54916738 Report

Quoted By: >>54916744

>>54916701
I think I made mine up a few minutes after yours just cuz I didn’t bother checking
I appreciate your service, I’ve been doing them for a while but obviously they’ve lost their pull so it’s more like an obligation
I don’t even think wfg even cares anymore and Perrserker isn’t even viable for 7* Raids at this point so it’s not about the raid cats anymore

Pretty decent strat but when I get a chance to play I’m gonna go in with Appletun from one of the other raids

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:48:08 No.54916744 Report

Quoted By: >>54916783

>>54916738
i wondered about the appletun but felt like hed job to x scissor crits
i tried tauros before goodra but its clear they didnt want this to be a repeat of regular samu, its definitely set up in a very anti-anger point way

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:55:51 No.54916777 Report

Quoted By: >>54916794

>>54916655
Can I just be a retard and use iron hands to catch it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:56:32 No.54916781 Report

Quoted By: >>54916787 >>54916805

Appleton was a comfy solo clear, even more so with intimidate partners. For some reason, the first X-scissors took 95% of its HP, but once it comes back, the subsequent X-scissors only took around 25%, even without Iron Defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:57:00 No.54916783 Report

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>>54916744
>felt like hed job to x scissor crits
Just tested and it's a clean OHKO without crits haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:57:53 No.54916787 Report

Quoted By: >>54916806 >>54916849

>>54916781
What build did you use? I hesitant to get a goodra ready right now but have a decent apple

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 01:59:23 No.54916790 Report

Quoted By: >>54916796 >>54916918

Beat it solo with Victreebel. Worry Seed to get rid of it's ability, Strength Sap to lower attack & heal, Acid Spray + Giga Drain for the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:00:03 No.54916794 Report

Quoted By: >>54916814

>>54916777
He hits hard enough that belly drumming has a pretty good chance of fucking you over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:00:33 No.54916796 Report

Quoted By: >>54916811

>>54916790
That sounds like fun. Max HP/Special Attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:02:48 No.54916805 Report

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>>54916781
>For some reason, the first X-scissors took 95% of its HP, but once it comes back, the subsequent X-scissors only took around 25%, even without Iron Defense

Your partners were massacred and activated intimidate again upon entering the field anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:02:59 No.54916806 Report

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>>54916787
I'm actually not super sure, I think I built it all the way back with 7-star Pikachu. It was either 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA or 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA, I was just going to try using Appleton and I even forgot to give him an item

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:03:47 No.54916811 Report

Quoted By: >>54916817 >>54916835 >>54916918 >>54917039 >>54917285 >>54918596 >>54919236 >>54919565 >>54919904 >>54922832 >>54926489

>>54916796
Victreebel @ Covert Cloak
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 120 HP / 244 Def / 20 SpA / 124 Spe
Bold Nature
- Worry Seed
- Giga Drain
- Strength Sap
- Acid Spray

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:04:01 No.54916814 Report

Quoted By: >>54916816

>>54916794
I was thinking about wild charge and drain punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:04:49 No.54916816 Report

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>>54916814
wild charge will kill you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:05:01 No.54916817 Report

Quoted By: >>54916830

>>54916811
Why Covert Cloak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:05:51 No.54916822 Report

Quoted By: >>54916835

couldnt i just spam electromorphosis parabolic charge shell bell bellibolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:07:32 No.54916830 Report

Quoted By: >>54916918

>>54916817
Prevent Bulldoze speed drop. With 124 speed you outspeed Samurott by one point. Outpacing this mon helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:08:11 No.54916832 Report

Quoted By: >>54916835

Does Hisuian Sliggoo evolve in SV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:08:57 No.54916835 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916811
this a cool set, nice work anon

>>54916822
depends how much shit you eat from +2 sharpness crits. if he can tank them hes fine

>>54916832
yes, you just need rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:13:34 No.54916849 Report

Quoted By: >>54916899

>>54916787
Nta but i also solo'd it with Appletun. Here was my build:
Appletun @ Tanga Berry
Ability: Ripen
252 SpA/252 Def
Apple Acid
Giga Drain
Recycle

I got really lucky because I had 2 CPU allies whose mons both had Intimidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:28:51 No.54916894 Report

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intimidate npcs are very nice for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:29:37 No.54916899 Report

Quoted By: >>54916911 >>54916927

>>54916849
Do you think the double Intim was necessary or just super helpful?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:30:45 No.54916902 Report

Quoted By: >>54918743

Ended soloing with Appletun but I think an intimidate partner is mandatory. I restarted the raid until I got one. As a bonus I got bellibolt that spammed discharge and gifted me a couple of turns of full paralisis. I died twice but still could come back in time.

My Appletun wasn't optimal (252 HP/252 SpA) because I wasn't arsed to change IVs, but Bold would be more efficient. Not necessarily Bold 252/252+; while that calc guarantees surviving +2 X-Scissor, you need an intimidate partner that makes the calc redundant anyway, and it keeps nerfing Samurott just by dying and coming back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:32:10 No.54916911 Report

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>>54916899
One intim is necessary, a second one is helpful

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:32:51 No.54916913 Report

Quoted By: >>54917274

What tricks does Hisuirott pull off compared to the vanilla Samurott?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:33:42 No.54916918 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916790
>>54916811
>>54916830
Excellent build, felt good to use Victreebell, always liked it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:36:45 No.54916924 Report

Quoted By:

If not doing solo, pondering if Quagsire might be worth a support role for randoms

>Water Absorb
>Acid Spray
>Recover
>Helping Hand
>Chilling Water

No Life Dew hurts it. And crit worry might be too much. And not having Unaware... This raid coverage is really good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:38:05 No.54916927 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916899
Both, honestly. Swords Dance/Sharpness boosted X-Scissors can seriously fuck you over, so double Intimidate was a great way to start the battle.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 02:56:58 No.54916981 Report

Quoted By: >>54916999 >>54917000 >>54917003

So if I breed this Raid one and get an Oshawott from it does it evolve into a Hisui Samurott? I already have one since they made it compatible with Legends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:00:15 No.54916999 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916981
>So if I breed this Raid one and get an Oshawott from it does it evolve into a Hisui Samurott?
NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:00:16 No.54917000 Report

Quoted By: >>54917008 >>54917017 >>54917023

>>54916981
put an everstone on the raid one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:00:24 No.54917003 Report

Quoted By: >>54917017

>>54916981
Needs to be traded into Legends and evolve in that game for it to be a hisuian samurott.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:01:17 No.54917008 Report

Quoted By: >>54917017

>>54917000
wait ignore me im retarded. you cant get h-samu without pla

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:02:31 No.54917017 Report

Quoted By: >>54917029

>>54917000
>>54917003
>>54917008
Wow. Was it the same for the birb and badger when they were raids? I didn't do those ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:04:06 No.54917023 Report

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>>54917000
wait, no! That only works when the base form is regional (growlithe, sneasel etc). Hisuian Samurott will always breed vanilla Oshawott that is the only existing one. You must evolve in PLA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:05:30 No.54917029 Report

Quoted By: >>54917036

>>54917017
All Hisuian mons can only evolve in Legends arceus. You cant get peat block in Scarlet/Violet for example so you can only get Ursaluna through Legends. I think basculegion is the only one you can get in S/V

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:06:45 No.54917036 Report

Quoted By: >>54917051

>>54917029
So essentially in order for you to make more Hisui starters they want you to buy Legends to do that if you already didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:07:14 No.54917039 Report

Quoted By: >>54922832

Used this build >>54916811 with Victreebel and it absolutely wiped the floor with it. I forgot to change the Tera to Grass and had to Acid Spray the shield down but I think I got lucky otherwise because, despite having Bulldoze and having a Bellibolt on my side, it never used Bulldoze again after the first time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:10:24 No.54917051 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917036
Or just catch the raid ones because they have perfect stats. Samurott is the best one anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:11:11 No.54917054 Report

Quoted By: >>54917069

>>54916656
>Sacred Sword
>Dies
>Scared Sword
>Dies
>Sacred Sword
>Dies

Am I retarded? What am I doing wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:12:42 No.54917063 Report

Quoted By:

I did it with mud-slap poliwrath, you cannot one shot if you cannot hit me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:13:15 No.54917069 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917054
yeah sorry i was hasty in my posting and didnt test enough. you just need an intim npc, then you live

or you can do hp/def EVs instead but then the KO is way slower and you still might struggle without an intim npc once he starts dropping your def

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:33:54 No.54917131 Report

Quoted By: >>54917287 >>54917325 >>54917341 >>54917381 >>54918637 >>54918657 >>54918667 >>54918726

What ball you guys using?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:42:46 No.54917169 Report

Quoted By: >>54917227

Support with eiscue is fun
Reflect and aurora veil made stuff so smooth for the others

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 03:56:59 No.54917227 Report

Quoted By: >>54917239

>>54917169
So is bringing icetales as support decent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:04:07 No.54917239 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917227
Not really, reflect, iceface lost, bulldoze, snow, ice face restored, iceface lost, aurora veil and spam health cheers as you take no damage even without ice face

You only take damage 2-5 times if your team is good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:15:09 No.54917274 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916913
He doesn't have much in the way of tricks, mostly he just hits hard.

He gets a Swords Dance at the beginning, before you can do anything, and a Focus Energy at about the half-way point. He clears debuffs once or twice, but otherwise I don't think he ever boosts his stats.

His signature move does leave spikes though, so watch out for that if you die.

An NPC with Intimidate is a big help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:16:58 No.54917279 Report

Quoted By:

>Go solo
>Get two intimidate mons
>Dudunsparce for glare
>Use cheer buffs
>Whittle it away with Miraidon
Eeeeeeeeeasy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:19:09 No.54917285 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916811
Had to do some resets until two npcs had Intimidate,but I got it. Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:19:49 No.54917287 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917131
Honestly, I could care less about balltism and I just used Premier Balls for all the starter raids. Not like I'm using 'em otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:28:26 No.54917313 Report

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Got through with Appletun along with an ai Arcanine. Doggo managed to get it burnt a few turns so I managed to set up iron defense. Funny it didn't use x-scissor once in my appletun run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:31:09 No.54917325 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917131
Lure ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:36:54 No.54917339 Report

Quoted By:

Man this raid blows, no way am I doing this shit again
The entire time you just have to hope he doesn't crit you or it's fucking over

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:37:14 No.54917341 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917131
I used moonball, seemed fitting
I was between it and luxury

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 04:48:31 No.54917381 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917131
I just finished the raid, I went with Luxury mainly because the colors kinda matched Samurott's "helmet"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 05:18:40 No.54917475 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916656
It works if you get 1 Intimidater but the strategy isn’t that reliable and I end up having to use Heal Cheers

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 05:46:00 No.54917563 Report

Quoted By:

Beat this second try with Koraidon

Koraidon @ Shell Bell
Ability: Orichalcum Pulse
252 Atk/252 Spe
Drain Punch
Breaking Swipe
Collision Course
Bulk Up

Use Breaking Swipe to lower its attack until Koraidon is near dead then use Heal Cheer. Bulk Up at twice then use Drain Punch until healthy. Use Collision Course to break through its shield. When stats are reset, use Bulk Up at least three times then use Drain Punch until dead

Definitely should've switch Bulk Up for Swords Dance, but hey, as long as it works. Caught it in a Lure Ball since the red and blue really went well with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 10:37:06 No.54918146 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 11:56:53 No.54918293 Report

Quoted By: >>54918535 >>54918567

I've never been able to do 5 star raids solo, and the only reason I was able to do the H-Typhlosion and Eevee 7 star raids was because I copied a Dachsbun cheese strat. I don't know if I havd the resources I need to copy a cheese strat for H-Samurott or a team for reliably clearing 5 star raids solo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 13:52:49 No.54918526 Report

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This one's been tough online but the most success I've had is having a Miraidon burst it down asap, since it doesn't clear debuffs until 50% time there's plenty of time to get some Acid Sprays and a bunch of hits in. I even had one get OHKO'd from around 90%. The key is obviously to prevent early deaths which is why I've just been spamming Breaking Swipe with Koraidon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 13:56:18 No.54918535 Report

Quoted By:

>>54918293
Do the ace tournament a few times and just buy all the resources.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:13:08 No.54918567 Report

Quoted By:

>>54918293
Honestly just play online and make a support mon.
I forgot I had a choice band on my iron hands so I got locked into belly drum and I got carried so hard my iron hands couldn't even die, despit only being able to use belly drum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:25:36 No.54918596 Report

Quoted By: >>54918611 >>54918615

>>54916811
I tried to set up a build like this, but I didn't realize there was no way to get Worry Seed or Strength Sap on Victribell without beeding. What are my options for substitute moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:30:36 No.54918611 Report

Quoted By: >>54918627

>>54918596
Use the Mirror Herb picnic mechanic to give anything egg moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:31:10 No.54918615 Report

Quoted By: >>54918627

>>54918596
You don't need to breed for egg moves anymore. Just delete a couple of moves, give Victreebel a Mirror Herb, and open a picnic when something that has Strength Sap or Worry Seed is in your party.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:40:28 No.54918626 Report

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>be me
>went online
>using Miraidon
>retarded virgin host using ogerpon
>other guy using Miraidon just like me
>4th is a chad using Victreebel of all things
>host's ogerpon keep getting ohko eating away our time
>none of the others died once
>we won anyway

Easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:40:50 No.54918627 Report

Quoted By: >>54918629

>>54918611
>>54918615
>Mirror Herb
The heck? I didn't know that existed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:41:46 No.54918629 Report

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>>54918627
It's new this gen, but you could do something similar last gen by just putting 2 of the same Pokemon in the day care together, with the recipient having an open move slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:46:00 No.54918637 Report

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>>54917131
Timer fits the black and red shell and white facial hair, plus the fact that it’s from an old time period region

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:54:59 No.54918657 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917131
I used a plain Pokeball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 14:57:00 No.54918667 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917131
I put everything I can into beast balls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 15:12:01 No.54918726 Report

Quoted By:

>>54917131
Blue with black = Net ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 15:16:39 No.54918743 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916902
Yes, it's mandatory. Barely survived the first turn with 12/424 HP left. Used Leech Seed on that turn, then I decided for a heal cheer second turn.
Went to around 180/424 HP. Staraptor kept on dying which granted me another 20 HP remaining thanks to Intimidate. Then I used Recover for the third turn, Staraptor died again.

Damage on the 4th turn was only around 100HP, that's where I spammed Apple Acid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 17:11:22 No.54919236 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916811
Got it on my first try. Amazing build bro, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 17:35:29 No.54919333 Report

Quoted By: >>54919340 >>54921245

jesus christ my miraidon can't survive more than 1 hit from this thing. I can't even get out a Parabolic Charge if I get hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 17:37:00 No.54919340 Report

Quoted By: >>54919345

>>54919333
skill issue
252 HPs, 252 Defs. If that still doesn't work, skill issue times 2.

And if you lose even when two intimidators are on the field you have to consider suicide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 17:38:07 No.54919345 Report

Quoted By: >>54919353 >>54919354

>>54919340
>Get hit once
>hp at 30%
>get hit again
>"skill issue"

there is literally no skill involved in Pokemon. It's a numbers game and the numbers arent there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 17:40:46 No.54919353 Report

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>>54919345

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Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 17:41:16 No.54919354 Report

Quoted By: >>54919362

>>54919345
Just get a group who can debuff its attack stat to help mitigate the damages so you can safely set up Reflect and start boosting to get potent Parabolic Charges out? It's not that hard unless you're a lucklet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 17:43:11 No.54919362 Report

Quoted By: >>54919382

>>54919354
oh gee sure let me wave my magic wand and assemble a perfect team of supporting players why didn't I think of that!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 17:48:25 No.54919382 Report

Quoted By:

>>54919362
Literally even NPCs can do the job dude, they have groups with intimidate and burn potential for a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 18:35:29 No.54919565 Report

Quoted By: >>54919759

>>54916811
Tard wrangled a team of randos (Rilla, Dozo, and Zamazenta) with this set. 10/10 would recommend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 19:18:08 No.54919759 Report

Quoted By: >>54919771 >>54919772

>>54919565
do i need fucking home to get strength sap and worry seed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 19:21:51 No.54919771 Report

Quoted By: >>54919865

>>54919759
You need to Mirror Herb mate with a Pokémon with them.
They’re egg moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 19:22:26 No.54919772 Report

Quoted By: >>54919865

>>54919759
No. Scovillain gets worry seed and Polteageists get strenght sap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 19:34:27 No.54919828 Report

Quoted By:

Cleared it first try with randoms using iron hands. Punched it to death with thunder punch and didn't die once.
Had a support Appletun using Reflect though and didn't get crit once. So luck was on my side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 19:42:31 No.54919865 Report

Quoted By:

>>54919772
>>54919771
oh, i thought even with mirror herb it still needed to be a potential parent. that makes it easier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 19:53:42 No.54919904 Report

Quoted By:

>>54916811
Bellsprout can also learn Gastro Acid instead of going for Worry Seed as an egg move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Nov 2023 20:55:49 No.54920145 Report

Quoted By: >>54922861

Have fun with this meme set to carry any team that has some ok damage dealers. Open with as many Charms as you can set before shield is up. Stall with Cotton Guard and set up Sunny Day after a cheer heal to prevent yourself from getting burned again + reduce Samurotts dmg output. Then Fling flame orb after Samurott removes status conditions from itself

Jumpluff @ Flame Orb
Ability: Leaf Guard
252 Hp / 252 Def
- Fling
- Cotton Guard
- Charm
- Sunny Day

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 01:44:38 No.54921227 Report

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whats the miraidon build?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 01:51:26 No.54921245 Report

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>>54919333
>jesus christ my miraidon can't survive more than 1 hit from this thing. I can't even get out a Parabolic Charge if I get hit
Electric seed

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 01:56:52 No.54921266 Report

Quoted By: >>54921273 >>54921668

>See raid
>Join
>Three maraidons
>Exit
It's amazing how no one ever bothers being support. Mashing electro drift only results in wipes.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 01:59:31 No.54921273 Report

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>>54921266
Don't worry, they also use metal sound...after the shield goes up!

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 02:01:01 No.54921281 Report

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>>54921273
AND they'll waste turns Calm Minding knowing that their buffs will be cleared not once, but twice, but only stop Calm Minding afterwards!

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 03:23:32 No.54921668 Report

Quoted By: >>54921971 >>54925868

>>54921266
Whats a good support? I usually have mew but she will get demolished with x-scizzor

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 03:25:34 No.54921677 Report

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Intimidator + appletun got it working for me. Arboliva setting up grassy terrain was also a big help

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 03:51:20 No.54921796 Report

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electric seed appletun and Miradon

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 04:32:12 No.54921971 Report

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>>54921668
Victrebel and appltun
DPS can be pretty much what ever as long as it's a sp.attacker
Bel lowers atk
Apl lowers sp.def
Setup reflect and grassy terrain asap
Wear down stats
Spam giga drain usually end with 20 percent timer left
Faster if you have a maraidon that actually has a brain

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 04:42:53 No.54922018 Report

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>>54921971
Whoops sorry got the strata mixed up
Victrebel is for just going balls to the wall and lowering sp.def as soon as possible.
If you want something to lower attack you need leafeon or Azumarill with charm.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 10:03:22 No.54922832 Report

Quoted By: >>54923191

>>54916811
This was really good and it worked in one go but it Samurott still outsped me about 2/3's of the time even with Victreebel having a maxed Speed IV, might shift more EV's from SpA to Spe later.

>>54917039
It's only programmed to use Bulldoze once at the start I think but I could be wrong. Mine has Poison-Tera too and I still won just fine, it might be better than Grass-Tera anyway since you won't be weak to X-Scissor which doesn't sound nice when combined with Samurott's Focus Energy and random crits.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 10:24:31 No.54922861 Report

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>>54920145
Holy shit this is a pretty mean build. Good find.
I'll definitely be stealing this one for co-op builds

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 13:38:26 No.54923191 Report

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>>54922832
It sets up a small shield early, so you don't need to worry about losing your tera. An X-Scissor crit at neutral attack does only a little more than half anyway.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 15:25:52 No.54923468 Report

Quoted By: >>54923490 >>54924097

>>54916655
This can range from tough to piss easy solo, depending on your NPC partners. If you get Arcannine, Tauros, or Staraptor, it can be so easy that you clear it with more than 50% time remaining. If you get both, forget about it, it's handed to you. The NPCs will keep fainting, coming back and re-applying intimidate, you only worry about cirts.

Of course, the standard 7-star raid Miraidon set is king here:

Item
>Metronome
Moves
>Metal Sound
>Parabolic Charge
>Electro Drift
>Anything
EVs
>252 HP
>4 Def
>252 SpA

I tried this with my support Clefairy maybe 4 times, but no one online was thought to bring something that didn't have Belly Drum, so I gave up and switched to solo. This is probably the 5th 7-star raid I've tried online and the 4th where people are too retarded to work with. The only exception was Mewtwo, but I think people struggled with it enough to actually engage their fucking brains.

I've got Samurott on all 3 of my saves now, all solo. I would have wasted a lot less time if I just went solo in the first place. To you retards repeatedly trying Iron Hands on this raid online, go fuck yourselves you braindead cunts.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 15:34:10 No.54923490 Report

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>>54923468
>To you retards…online
It’s just part of playing online. Even when these kids bring a suitable mon, they have no clue how to pilot. I lost a couple of raids using Victreebel with three Miraidon team mates simply because there were players opening with attacks instead of support, using (useless) support into shield, lacking sufficient HP, and failing to cheer at all. It’s pretty funny that people still have no clue how to raid when the game has been out for a year now.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 18:29:00 No.54924097 Report

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>>54923468
why not 252 def over hp?

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 20:47:07 No.54924683 Report

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>Start raid
>Turn 1 crit
>Start again
>Turn 1 crit

Yeah no I think I'm not gunna bother.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 21:41:55 No.54924964 Report

Quoted By: >>54924989

>>54922861
Do so. You can also replace Cotton Guard with Pollen Puff to heal teammates that happens to be 4x weak to something if Samurott puts shield up early on. Same with Charm for Lunge to decrease attack every turn while shield is up. Have had success with all these combinations

Jumpluff @ Flame Orb
Ability: Leaf Guard
252 Hp / 252 Def
- Fling
- Cotton Guard / Pollen Puff
- Charm / Lunge
- Sunny Day / Synthesis

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Anonymous Sat 25 Nov 2023 21:47:00 No.54924989 Report

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>>54924964
Must also add that i noticed its best to fling flame orb right after Samurott puts up shield

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2023 00:30:56 No.54925868 Report

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>>54921668
I set up a Gastrodon with Storm Drain as ability and Clear Smog, Chilling Water, and Mud-Slap.

Clear Smog turn 1 to get rid of his Swords Dance, Chilling Water for another 3-4 turns, then start Mud-Slapping so he can't land his crits, either. He'll often Razor Shell me on the first turn, so with Storm Drain, he never even gets the chance to hit me while he's still buffed.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2023 03:13:46 No.54926489 Report

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>>54916811
Thanks, this made it super easy.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2023 11:29:16 No.54927928 Report

Quoted By: >>54927949

>Try with Bellibolt for Electromorphosis shenanigans
>Doesn't work out because Razor Shell keeps landing the defense drop
>Switch to Miraidon
>Easily solo it
Nice and simple.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2023 11:34:51 No.54927949 Report

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>>54927928
I like the Clear Amulet for this raid.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2023 11:42:37 No.54927974 Report

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I beat it with Toxapex and with randoms. First try

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2023 13:20:15 No.54928158 Report

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Really easy with shaymin

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