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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2023 21:37:44 No.54935765 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT: useless abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2023 21:42:26 No.54935797 Report

Quoted By: >>54939353 >>54939419

this would be a good ability on a tanky physical attacker
>take hit
>eat sitrus berry for health
>steal the attacker's item, essentially a free knock off
it's really good in theory
but of course they only give it to glass cannons and frail shitmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2023 21:44:04 No.54935806 Report

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>>54935765
It's uncommonly useful but you have to use sash
The worst part is that it requires a move that makes contact to hit your mon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2023 23:41:36 No.54936540 Report

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>>54935765
>be dark type
>have pickpocket ability
>signature move is thief

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 00:04:48 No.54936654 Report

Quoted By: >>54937001

>>54935765
it's useful in a playthrough
like, instead of catching every other cubone for the thick club you just let them smack you

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 00:30:30 No.54936780 Report

Quoted By: >>54936792 >>54936871

Magma Armor is an ability so utterly worthless that even GF knew it and never put it on anything after its introductory generation.

Seriously, not counting gimmick, forme, or blatantly OP shit, Magma Armor has to be the rarest ability in the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 00:33:03 No.54936792 Report

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>>54936780
Only good if you wanted a Camerupt to hatch your eggs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 00:46:22 No.54936871 Report

Quoted By: >>54937190

>>54936780
a good way to buff magma armor would be to give it a water resistance. so both magcargo and camrupt only take x2 instead of x4. and maybe even eviolite slugma would be good in LC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 00:48:33 No.54936885 Report

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>>54935765
Pressure

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 01:09:09 No.54936991 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 01:10:11 No.54937001 Report

Quoted By: >>54941385

>>54936654
just use thief nerd

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:00:19 No.54937190 Report

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>>54936871
That on top of giving additional stab on Fire moves, a Water Bubble clone.
Or just make them immune to water type moves, they're far from being OP anyway.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:05:36 No.54937204 Report

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:47:55 No.54937654 Report

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>>54937204
that's only because all the other rotoms have levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 13:36:31 No.54939343 Report

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>no plus or minus

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 13:39:37 No.54939353 Report

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>>54935797
Tell me how the exact same logic doesn’t work with a sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 13:44:18 No.54939362 Report

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>>54935765
Trace. Imagine not being able to freely switch into something because it would give you a detrimental ability. Its actual uses are so situational, they aren’t worth the unpredictability.
Only mon it’s good on is gardevoirite gardevoir, because you can just mega out of it if the ability is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 13:44:29 No.54939364 Report

Quoted By:

>>54935765
>Bad Habit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 13:46:39 No.54939368 Report

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>>54937204
They should give Rotom a levitate that ignores gravity to give this at least a situational use

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:02:04 No.54939405 Report

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>>54935765
It has niche use in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:07:46 No.54939419 Report

Quoted By: >>54940069

>>54935797
>tanky physical attacker
>steals a scarf
The potential for Pickpocket to backfire makes it pretty shit on bulky mons meant to last several turns in battle.
Giving it to glass cannons is actually the most optimal way of using it.
>Weavile breaks its Focus Sash
>steals opponent's item
>even if it's not useful, Weavile might not last more than another turn anyway so you essentially crippled your opponent for free

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:10:33 No.54939423 Report

Quoted By: >>54941165

>>54936991
>Honey Gather has remained unchanged despite the fact that Honey literally does not do anything anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:16:16 No.54939440 Report

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>>54939362
Even if Trace isn't that good it makes up for it by saving you so much trouble if you're trying to catch something that has a shit second ability you don't want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:19:34 No.54939449 Report

Quoted By: >>54939497

>>54939362
>because it would give you a detrimental ability
How often would that happen? Slaking, Archeops and Regigigas aren't exactly meta staples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:27:24 No.54939473 Report

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>>54937654
It works if you are given a Ring Target :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:34:29 No.54939497 Report

Quoted By: >>54939517

>>54939449
Gorilla tactics on a special attacker for example

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:43:24 No.54939517 Report

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>>54939497
That's still a pretty rare scenario, not even possible currently.
The only common scenario where Trace can be used against you is copying an opponent's weather or terrain ability after it wore off, thereby setting it up for them.
It's still worth it just for the chance to copy things like Intimidate, weather abusing abilities and abilities that grant immunities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 14:56:43 No.54939549 Report

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>>54939362
trace is useful in the actual game so you know the right pokemon to catch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 15:01:44 No.54939568 Report

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>>54939362
>it would give you a detrimental ability.
like what?
Did you plan to defeat slakking and reggigigas with a gardevoir?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 15:10:43 No.54939592 Report

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>>54935765
>he doesn't Unburden Life Orb Driffblim self side Gyro Ball into Weakness Policy Grimmsnarl, then Tailwind turn 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 15:26:24 No.54939651 Report

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>>54935765
>わるいてぐせ
>Bad Habit
Why are Bulbapedo's translators so bad at Japanese?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 17:15:56 No.54940069 Report

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>>54939419
the thing is, glass cannons typically want items that make them stronger right off the bat. running a sash to use pickpocket to remove an item is a really stupid call for weavile especially, since it can just knock off items anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 17:23:20 No.54940096 Report

Quoted By: >>54940104 >>54940342

>>54935765
Frisk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 17:25:51 No.54940104 Report

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>>54940096
frisk was always an ability intended for in-game use rather than competitive use.
but yeah, now that they've essentially removed wild held items there's no point to it any more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 18:14:21 No.54940342 Report

Quoted By: >>54940570

>>54940096
Frisk is decent in vee gee see, since it works on both opponents in doubles, a frisk lead tells you half their pokemon's items for free.
It's pretty good for scouting because there's a ton of useful items now. You don't want to use Fake Out on something with Covert Cloak for instance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 19:05:09 No.54940570 Report

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>>54940342
How is it decent when you can see what your opponent's team looks like beforehand?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 19:22:28 No.54940678 Report

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>>54939362
>Only mon it’s good on is gardevoirite gardevoir
Dumb gardefag trying to keep your shitmon relevant. Trace is half the reason M-Alakazam is so good. The ability is as good as the mons you’re likely to face in the meta, and M-Alakazam is in metas where there is a significant powercreep regarding ability usage (usually regen core stallshit).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 20:32:38 No.54941014 Report

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>>54939362
Alakazam Mega benefited from Trace in a number of situations
>trace regenerator or natural cure, gives you an edge vs stall
>trace levitate, latios cannot hit you with eq
>trace intimidate, survive a hit from scarf lando
>trace swift swim, fuck rain teams up
>trace magic bounce
>trace flash fire vs heatran
>trace rough skin
>trace volt absorb
>trace sand rush
>trace soul heart
it was so fucking cool
Most abilities are good, mons with detrimental abilities just dont get used at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 20:38:01 No.54941047 Report

Quoted By: >>54941367

>>54941014
>eq latios
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 20:58:44 No.54941165 Report

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>>54939423
They should just buff honey's sell price to be similar to that of a pearl

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 21:16:22 No.54941296 Report

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>>54937204
Soak and Magic Powder
Also Tera Electric

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 21:24:52 No.54941367 Report

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>>54941047
Latios in gen 7 typically ran a mega mixed set with Earthquake to hit Heatran and Magearna.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 21:27:18 No.54941385 Report

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>>54937001
It's time to get Butterfree pilled anons, Compund Eyes and Thief has you covered

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 22:30:13 No.54941745 Report

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>>54935765
Abilities are useless, so all of them

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