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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 17:33:58 No.55055582 View View Reply Original Report

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Can anyone give an actual explanation as to why Pokemon needs a hard mode?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 17:36:46 No.55055602 Report

Quoted By: >>55055633 >>55055946 >>55055962 >>55056875 >>55057015 >>55057967

it doesn't

it just needs to be harder in general and bring back battle facilities

USUM and PLA had an acceptable level of difficulty honestly, they should just get Iwao to direct more games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 17:41:39 No.55055633 Report

Quoted By: >>55055925 >>55055932

>>55055602
>it just needs to be harder in general
Why?

>USUM and PLA had an acceptable level of difficulty
I just mashed A a lot and beat both incredibly easily. If there's some kind of difficulty difference relative to the rest of the franchise I didn't see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 18:17:35 No.55055925 Report

Quoted By: >>55055938 >>55055975 >>55056266

>>55055633
>Why?
Because it's not a depressing trend in media that children are not being challenged in any way by games media leading to an epidemic of inability to overcome difficulties in real life.

But also so we can get a trainer with a pokemon higher than Red's Pikachu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 18:18:43 No.55055932 Report

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>>55055633
>Why?
Because it makes the game engaging instead of being an idle game like Gen 5 where you do nothing but mash A while barely paying attention.

>I just mashed A a lot and beat both incredibly easily
Most people didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 18:19:30 No.55055938 Report

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>>55055925
>children are not being challenged in any way by games media leading to an epidemic of inability to overcome difficulties in real life.
i'd say this comes from more than just games imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 18:20:58 No.55055946 Report

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>>55055602
just use terrible pokemon or impose your own challenges. You don't need GF to make the game harder when you can do it yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 18:21:20 No.55055952 Report

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>>55055582
>I want difficult content but using subpar Pokemon and moves and being underleveled is gimping myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 18:23:07 No.55055962 Report

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>>55055602
>bring back battle facilities
ranked ladder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 18:25:33 No.55055975 Report

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>>55055925
>My child is retarded
>It must be the fault of the Pikamans game!!!!
>anyway it’s time for my daily drinking hour, better shove him in front of cocomelon and YouTube shorts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 18:49:45 No.55056155 Report

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>>55055582
It's so much fun, casualfaggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 19:00:44 No.55056235 Report

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>>55055952
This. Don't use paradox or legends, don't use items and you'll see that the Indigo Disk is pretty enjoyable battle wise. Bonus points if you only use terrarium mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 19:04:50 No.55056266 Report

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>>55055925
>Because it's not a depressing trend in media that children are not being challenged in any way by games media leading to an epidemic of inability to overcome difficulties in real life
If you're actually blaming the failure of kids on fucking Jap video games instead of failing childcare, single parent families, a declining education system, breakdown of communities etc. you are unironically too stupid to vote.
Pokemon was also always piss easy compared to all of its contemporaries since the 90s. There is no 'trend', it's a flat line.

>>55055932
>where you do nothing but mash A
Any child over the age of 7 that isn't mentally disabled can do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 19:14:14 No.55056331 Report

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>>55055932
>gen 5 out of nowhere
The absolute cope. You discord raiders lost kek. Gen 6 is shit and even game freak agrees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 19:58:43 No.55056655 Report

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>>55055582
The hard mode is using shittier Pokemon. I know people will just drift to the strongest and that will be popular but it's perfectly feasible to just keep unevolved Pokemon or use ones that are just bad and still play just because they happen to be your favorites. It's a commentary on the world. You can be a sheep and enjoy the easy life on conforming or you can do what you like and enjoy yourself, even if it's more difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:03:20 No.55056685 Report

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>Oh this series where the appeal is using anything you like? Oh just use shit that you don’t want to fix it.
Why do retards keeping suggesting this “fix”?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:05:55 No.55056703 Report

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>>55056685
Use Pokemon you like instead of what's good. Like Furret? Okay use him. Now you're on hard mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:07:54 No.55056730 Report

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>>55055952
>and being underleveled
Literally impossible to do without constantly having to box your Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:09:07 No.55056743 Report

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>>55056685
>my favorites are all coincidentally the strongest pokemon
Karen was right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:09:23 No.55056744 Report

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>>55056703
>Use Furret
>Game is still easy
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:10:26 No.55056755 Report

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>>55056730
Use repels and don't fight every trainer. Literally impossible!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:12:32 No.55056786 Report

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>>55056743
>Win with strong favorites against her weak favorites
She lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:14:30 No.55056813 Report

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>>55056786
They're only your favorites because they're strong. Release yourself from this autism and you'll have a better time with these games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:18:46 No.55056850 Report

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>>55056685
>low difficulty is a "problem" to be "fixed"
Yeah, why are retards like this?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:20:46 No.55056867 Report

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>>55056850
Do you actually think it's unreasonable to want a more difficult experience?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:21:57 No.55056875 Report

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>>55055602
Yeah USUM is a great base difficulty for people who want to play normally on switch, with items and overleveling and people who want to play on set, no items, level limit and nuzlocke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:25:39 No.55056909 Report

Quoted By: >>55056922

If you look at Pokémon purely as a JRPG, it has an endless expansive party customization system along with a thoughtful battle system.
Like if the game was hardcore enough to actually encourage you to interact with all of its systems, it’d instantly be a better version of SMT.
It’ll never happen but there are fangames that serve as proof of concept.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:27:15 No.55056922 Report

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>>55056909
>Fangames
Oh yeah? Which ones did you have in mind anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:27:16 No.55056923 Report

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>>55056755
>just don't play the game bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:27:21 No.55056925 Report

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>>55056743
>>55056813
One of my strongest most clutch pokemon in SV was jumpluff. And the game was still pretty easy. I didn't black out once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:31:39 No.55056960 Report

Quoted By: >>55057124

>>55056923
That's my exact reaction when retards complain about swapping larty members around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:37:59 No.55057015 Report

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>>55055602
>PLA had an acceptable level of difficulty
My nephew beat it by himself and he can't beat any gen 6 game without my help. PLA is baby mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:40:48 No.55057043 Report

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>>55056813
>They’re only your favorites because of [headcanon]
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:44:04 No.55057068 Report

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>>55056922
It’s a romhack but Unbound on Expert was satisfyingly difficult. Every Gym Leader has their own strategy that you have to play around but progression is carefully tuned so if you explore thoroughly, you’ll have access to Pokémon and items to counter their strategies.
Training was never a slog either because the game gives you powerleveling facilities but also has level scaling and caps.
The biggest standout was the AI which at higher difficulties starts to predict switches and might even double-switch themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:44:16 No.55057069 Report

Quoted By: >>55057091

>>55056744
If you genuinely believe using a lower level pokemon with lower stats doesn't increase the difficulty you're being a retard for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:46:23 No.55057086 Report

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>>55055582
It doesn't. Dark Souls trannies deserve death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:46:50 No.55057091 Report

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>>55057069
>Use weak Pokémon
>Game doesn’t change to a substantial extent of difficulty
Where’s the difficulty?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:49:17 No.55057108 Report

Quoted By: >>55057675

>>55057068
Ok, doesn't seem as retardedly """optimized""" as Kaizo Emerald or Radical Red, your life has been spared

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 20:52:39 No.55057124 Report

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>>55056960
>larty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 22:06:56 No.55057675 Report

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>>55057108
It's a difficulty mode in Unbound. Radical Red has those as well. Just play on easy if it's too much for you, and Unbound Insane is arguably much harder and unbalanced than Radical Red's highest difficulty.
>Emerald Kaizo
Literally on par with the regular games in terms of difficulty because the retard fodder didn't add level caps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 22:18:02 No.55057782 Report

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>use shitty pokemon
>game is still boring because the AI is less sophisticated than a day's worth of programming

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 22:18:24 No.55057784 Report

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im a nigger. a very black nigger., my skin is black as space. im very very nigger.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 22:36:56 No.55057967 Report

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>>55055602
no game with affection bonuses is difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2023 22:52:47 No.55058103 Report

Quoted By: >>55059785

>>55057967
No Pokemon game is difficult

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 02:18:49 No.55059785 Report

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>>55058103
You're right, but games with affection bonuses are even easier. If Pokemon Red has 0 difficulty, any Pokemon game with affection bonuses is -50 difficulty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 02:24:22 No.55059825 Report

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Make three difficulty settings:

>1. Relaxed
>2. Canon
>3. Challenge

Relaxed is easy mode, meant for journalists and small children, without outright passive aggressiveness.
Challenge is hard mode, meant for people looking for a fight.
Canon is the intended story difficulty challenge. Not normal, but canon. This is the true level of trainers, as they're meant to be fought in the story.

This way lorefags can compare gameplay elements by discussing canon mode, while still playing through challenge mode to experience something harder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 02:29:20 No.55059866 Report

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>>55056266
I was 5 and mentally disabled AND playing pokemon. Get on my levels tardo's. I forced myself to understand english BECAUSE of the series LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 02:31:04 No.55059878 Report

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>>55055582
Kojima makes movies, not games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 02:38:01 No.55059944 Report

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>>55055582
It doesn't, Pokemon already has variably difficulty built-in "hard mode" is just training more/weaker pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 02:40:41 No.55059967 Report

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>>55059785
You're completely correct but faggots like him will never acknowledge it because they rely on ignoring the difference between easy and super easy to pretend that the series hasn't because insanely casualized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:04:34 No.55060171 Report

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>>55055582
>guy who makes movies making casual mode
>guy who makes bad RPGs tours you to help until you get it
hmmmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:08:35 No.55060204 Report

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>>55055582
Because Pokemon games are for all ages and skill levels, meaning 4 years olds and adults, handicapped and dexterous. Souls games are for "gamer" types already so expecting them to rise to a challenge is acceptable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:11:46 No.55060227 Report

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>>55055582
It doesn't NEED one but it would be a lot more fun to have the option.
>dude just use shitmons
No, fuck you. The NPCs are still just spamming tackle and growl, it's not a challenge, it's the exact same shit except it takes twice as long.
I want NPCs to make use of switching, setup strats, weather, entry hazards, everything. Make me feel like I'm fighting a person who's trying to win instead of a program picking random moves. I want to think and make use of my whole team. A boss should be satisfying to beat, not just another shitter but with different music and a low-effort cutscene attached.

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