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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:48:00 No.55060420 View View Reply Original Report

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>there are people unironically like this posting among us right now

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:52:01 No.55060445 Report

Quoted By: >>55061108 >>55062304

If this were another genre, that argument wouldn't hold any water. However, RPGs tend to hook people with their stories, so in that case wanting to continue the same story would be the main idea. As a counterpoint, Pokemon is godawful at it 90% of the time, so it shouldn't be relevant. But, on the other hand, Pokemon has a set of recognizable characters in the form of the Pokemon themselves. That was a valid reason to play the games, but after Dexit not being able to use them lessens this greatly. Like, it's still there, but extremely shittier and still doesn't give the player a reason to branch out into other monster collection franchises, the worst of both worlds.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:53:09 No.55060454 Report

Quoted By: >>55061393

>>55060420
This happens with everything else too.
There's tastelets who STILL go see the newest Star Wars just because it's Star Wars, completely ignoring that the Disney flicks crap all over Lucas' original vision.
These "people" are not true fans, they're consoomer cattle. I stopped playing Pokemon after Gen V (White 2).

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:53:21 No.55060456 Report

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>>55060420
AMONG US

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:54:19 No.55060460 Report

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>>55060420
AMOONGUS?

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:56:42 No.55060473 Report

Quoted By: >>55060521 >>55060571

>>55060420
He's right. All games are distinct as is the case with Pokemon. You can recommend alternatives but for a lot of people only specific games will scratch specific issues. I play other monster catching games and still come back to Pokemon. Nothing else is quite as comfy as Pokemon, or has such lovable designs, some series straight up treat the monsters as disposable. I play SMT, Dragon Quest Monsters, and Pokemon for specific niches, I don't think they are interchangeable beyond sharing a genre.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:57:35 No.55060480 Report

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>>55060420
He's right though. Monster capturing isn't a genre, it's a type of RPG and Pokemon has a story I've been following since I was like 5. Give me a "monster capture game" with a story, theme, art like pokemon and maybe I'd try it, but you can't because it would be some super ugly dragon quest shit, that weird japanese yokai garbage, trannyshit, or hyper realistic.

Pokemon stumbled into the perfect world/environment and they capitalized on it perfectly, which is why it's the highest grossing media franchise of all time

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:58:32 No.55060485 Report

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>>55060420
why is it such a problem if people only play Pokemon? i dont care about other games

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 04:04:46 No.55060521 Report

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>>55060473
>>55060480
I mean sure, playing Pokemon for the aesthetic is a valid reason. But saying:
>I won’t play an objectively better version of the game I like because it doesn’t have my favorite brand name on it
Is possibly the stupidest way you could word that sentiment.

And isn’t this the very reason genwunners hated Gen 5: because the Pokemon didn’t look like the ones they were familiar with? And they were shat on for years for giving that reason, yet suddenly NOW it’s a valid reason to hate a Fakemon game?

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 04:10:34 No.55060563 Report

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>>55060521
>And they were shat on for years for giving that reason, yet suddenly NOW it’s a valid reason to hate a Fakemon game?
Not sure who you're referring to as "the ones shitting on them" but unova pokemon looked like ass when they first released and still do. I remember making fun of the dumbass keychain shit right away and I never got past the bug gym because it was so damn linear and boring, combined with having these ugly fucking starters and monkeys and garbage plot that couldn't be any more handholdy if it tried

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 04:12:35 No.55060571 Report

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>>55060473
>I play SMT, Dragon Quest Monsters, and Pokemon for specific niches, I don't think they are interchangeable beyond sharing a genre.
This. People who recommend SMT or DQ Monsters as a substitute for others disappointed in Pokémon are genuinely retarded.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 04:19:39 No.55060620 Report

Quoted By: >>55062343

>>55060420
He's right tho. The best monster collector game of all time could come out tomorrow but it's still not pokemon. Most people who like pokemon are attached to the characters and aesthetic of Pokemon, not some random literally who game. You can say "hurrrr it's retarded to be attached to a brand" all you want but that's just how it works. I watched the new Indiana Jones because it's Indiana Jones and I like Indiana Jones. Would a different random Action movie have been better? Probably, but I wanted to see Indiana Jones

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z Sat 16 Dec 2023 04:30:51 No.55060697 Report

Quoted By: >>55061555 >>55062536 >>55062558

If i make a Pokemon clone or monster breeding genre game, i make sure I'm not targeting mochi-eating Pokemon fanzombies and I'll be sure it's loud and clear.
I want my own audience that'll stand by my own ideas, as i give them what WE (me and my audience) want, and not housing in """retired""" ex-fans that want to be catered and nitpick everything we do or expendable twitter support who drop it as soon as one scream the name of a landlocked west african state.

I don't want you grifters near my projects and i absolutely don't want to hear it from casuals who only watched the first season of the anime.
Ripoff this, knock off that. Digimon here, Pissona there. Fucking annoying, go away and cry it's not Pokemon slop.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 05:30:35 No.55061108 Report

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>>55060445
Pokemon's stories are awful and the Pokemon are treated like objects and gimmicks, not like characters. Pokemon simply happened to monopolize the monster catching genre first. There's no other reason for its popularity. It was purely due to random luck.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 05:31:21 No.55061112 Report

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>>55060420
>x screenshot

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 05:46:28 No.55061196 Report

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>>55060563
>that dumb Keychain
>using a Kalos pokemon to claim Unova has bad designs
Come on anon.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 06:11:36 No.55061335 Report

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>>55060420
That’s a fine perspective to have, as long as the meaning is
>I understand that different games in the same genre have different appeals
And not
>I will consume and defend this series in spite of deserved criticism

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 06:22:55 No.55061393 Report

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>>55060454
>I stopped playing the games 12 years ago
your opinion is worthless then

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 06:24:52 No.55061403 Report

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>>55060420
among us!!!1!!!????????

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 07:00:37 No.55061555 Report

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>>55060697
it has unova energy

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 07:02:48 No.55061568 Report

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>>55060420
awww OP’s mad that people like pokemon and not his dogshit digimon designs

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 09:06:18 No.55062152 Report

Quoted By: >>55062192

I will never understand pokekiddies.
If you played a single pokemon game you played them all. Literally

> but but this can be said about any ame series
No, Poketrash is an ethalon ,a SHINING BEACON of stagnation and reshashing. There is 0
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NONE
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gameplay changes or innovations.

People who unironically play poketrash game always will be in double digits IQ

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 09:08:48 No.55062170 Report

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>>55060420
among us?

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 09:13:30 No.55062192 Report

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>>55062152
Don't fix what isn't broken. The formula already is pretty satisfying. Some series try too hard to "evolve" and just end up destroying themselves like Fossil Fighters with its cars.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 09:45:41 No.55062304 Report

Quoted By: >>55062322 >>55062882

>>55060445
>RPGs tend to hook people with their stories
Yeah and none of them became as famous as Pokemon. Turns out cookie cutter stories don't mean shit.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 09:49:53 No.55062322 Report

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>>55062304
> cookie cutter
I'd cut a cookie or two if you catch my drift

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 09:53:34 No.55062343 Report

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>>55060620
>and I like Indiana Jones.
You pinpointed the problem with all of you : you will never admit that you're mechanically forced to consume your brand and just say "I like it". If you're able to tell another film is better you're midway through admitting your mindset is stupid. Can't blame you though, 95% of the world is like that, associating themselves to brands and thinking that's part of their personality. But it appliying to the majority doesn't make it less stupid. Not everyone can be a leader.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 10:44:37 No.55062534 Report

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>>55060420
I like pokemon because of the pokemon and the mechanics, i don't wanna play shitty ass digimon or yokai watch but pokemon is shit now too so i just don't play anything.
Have a similar thing with Fire Emblem, loved the franchise but Awakening sucked so much cock and everyone loved it for that and changed the series for the worse forever and just like pokemon i cannot find a good substitute among the sea of clones because they always fuck something up.
Basically i just play old games

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 10:46:34 No.55062536 Report

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>>55060697
>one scream the name of a landlocked west african state.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 10:50:02 No.55062546 Report

Quoted By: >>55063924

>>55060420
Well that and, pokemon’s gameplay and content is actually pretty good compared to most other games.

Why do people tell me BDSP is bad because it has minimal postgame and forced exp share and easy difficulty, then turn around and tell me to play SMRPG remake when it has even less postgame, forced exp share, and even easier difficulty? Is it because it’s trendy to shit on Pokemon and worship Mario?

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 10:53:01 No.55062558 Report

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>>55060697
>monster breeding
I'm hoping we are talking human/monster breeding here

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 11:26:53 No.55062700 Report

Quoted By: >>55062975

>>55060521
>objectively

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 12:10:23 No.55062882 Report

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>>55062304
>Yeah and none of them became as famous as Pokemon.

Because none of them a pouring quite literally billions into marketing and merchandise. I think more than 50% of Pokemon's revenue goes anywhere else but into the games. No other franchise has the resources to advertise their brand through toys, anime, card games etc. That is the only reason Pokemon is as famous as it is. THAT is what the original Pokemon Fever was banking on. Not the games but the merch. If Digimon, for example, had a fraction of the revenue it would be significantly more popular.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 12:26:32 No.55062975 Report

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>>55062700
He is not wrong.
Anything is better than poketrash

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Anonymous Sat 16 Dec 2023 15:29:52 No.55063924 Report

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>>55062546
>different franchises have… le different expectations?…

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