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Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:14:35 No.55124536 View View Reply Original Report

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So why can't modern day Stantler and Ursaring evolve? Is there an in-lore reason or just game freak's incompetence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:15:19 No.55124540 Report

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>inb4 some retard says they're extinct

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:16:26 No.55124546 Report

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>>55124536
They're just retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:18:00 No.55124555 Report

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>>55124536
Both are true. GF is incompetent, but in lore the conditions for evolution just weren’t met. We see this with Scyther>Kleavor, which can obviously occur in the Terarium when Scyther live near Black Augurite in the ground, but they were too lazy to make it a moss rock feature and instead just made both spawn there so you could choose and they could have the path of least effort.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:19:00 No.55124563 Report

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The only reason they made them is so that they could be dexcut later

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:19:29 No.55124568 Report

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>>55124536
Lore reasons is that the special mud Ursaring needs to evolve no longer exists, and somehow Stantler population forgot how to use Psybash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:22:26 No.55124596 Report

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>>55124536
Because they didnt exist in Gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:22:44 No.55124599 Report

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>>55124536
>there's no more peat moss harvested because the marshes are protected Safari habitat
>modern battles don't use Agile style

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:26:26 No.55124628 Report

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>>55124536
Because without the incentive to keep those traits, species will lose them. Fun fact: despite not having legs anymore whales still have vestigial pelvises. It's the joke behind Cetitan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Dec 2023 23:27:00 No.55124631 Report

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>>55124536
Stantler don't live in harsh enough conditions, so their psychic powers waned. That's pretty much it for Stantler

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 00:03:26 No.55124771 Report

Quoted By: >>55124793 >>55125477

>>55124536
>why does the Pokémon with hisuian regional evolution can’t evolve outside of hisui

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 00:09:42 No.55124793 Report

Quoted By: >>55124888

>>55124771
>item evolution
>move evolution
>NOOOOOOO IT’S A REGIONAL EVOLUTION SOMEHOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 00:23:01 No.55124860 Report

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>>55124536
can i just say it really annoys me how black augurite has clearly been found for the terrarium but isn't actually an available item
but at the very least it proves that black augurite isn't something that's just somehow completely vanished in a 150 years like some people think

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 00:26:45 No.55124877 Report

Quoted By: >>55126779

>>55124536
Because they want you to pay 60$ for another shitty game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 00:29:22 No.55124888 Report

Quoted By: >>55124895 >>55124911 >>55124929

>>55124793
>evolution that can only happen in a specific region
>NOOOOOOO! It’s not a regional evolution because of muh retarded headcanon!
Cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 00:30:51 No.55124895 Report

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>>55124888
>evolution that can only happen in a specific region
I wouldn’t be screaming about headcanon when this is yours that you’re throwing around

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 00:33:46 No.55124911 Report

Quoted By: >>55125310

>>55124888
>travel way back to gen 4
oh yes Magnezone is my favorite regional evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 00:37:10 No.55124929 Report

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>>55124888
>nooo can't evolve into a bicycle freddy
Arrest

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 01:04:08 No.55125059 Report

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>>55124555
Same thing with Alolan Exeggutor. It could easily evolve in the beach biome but nooo just catch the ones spawning there bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 01:58:12 No.55125310 Report

Quoted By: >>55125567

>>55124911
>magneton can evolve in hisui, sinnoh, paldea, kitakami and unova
>stantler can only evolve in hisui and nothing else
hisuian evolutions are regional evos. Show me a stantler evolve outside of pla to prove otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 02:19:16 No.55125419 Report

Quoted By: >>55126137

Remember that the extinct Mamoswine was always unlocked by using ”Ancient Power”.
Knowing this, Wyrdeer is a tragedy…It’s not fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 02:21:44 No.55125431 Report

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>>55124536
Stantler, I'm not sure. Maybe something about domestication or environment now?

Ursaluna is my reasonable in my opinion. Hisui used to have vast marshes, which have now been reduced significantly by large cities forming over Sinnoh. Even then, Peat was rare, not to mention it had to be applied during a full moon. I'd assume if you could find some peat and did it during a full moon, you'd be okay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 02:24:51 No.55125442 Report

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>>55124599
HQwilfish doesn't need to use strong style in SV to evolve. I'm pretty sure that stantler literally just forgot the move.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 02:28:26 No.55125459 Report

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>>55124536
The in-lore reason for Stantler is that the environments they live in aren't as harsh as Hisui once was, so even if you did transfer over a Stantler who knows Psyshield Bash, it wouldn't be volatile enough an environment to force it to fully awaken its psychic potential. And as Indigo Disk now shows us, it doesn't actually have anything to do with the Strong/Agile fighting styles being a lost art of Pokemon battling, because you can evolve Hisuian Qwilfish just fine by simply having it know Barb Barrage.
Meanwhile Ursaluna is described as "uncommon" by Perrin, so they're probably still around in remote marshes with enough peat and exposure to an open full moon sky far away from humanity, but we simply can't pull off the evolution ourselves because there's nowhere that lets us acquire peat blocks outside of Legends.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 02:30:30 No.55125477 Report

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>>55124771
Sinnoh is Hisui you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 02:34:44 No.55125499 Report

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>>55125477
all stantler and ursaring are extinct in the modern sinnoh games you have to trade them in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 02:47:42 No.55125567 Report

Quoted By: >>55125751 >>55125936

>>55125310
Sure anon, play that semantics game. That means every new Pokemon in Gen 9 is a Paldea-only regional evolution, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 03:19:51 No.55125751 Report

Quoted By: >>55125960 >>55126084

>>55125567
Until further notice, yes, actually. We've yet to see a Primeape outside of Paldea learn Rage Fist, or a Girafarig outside of Paldea learn Twin Beam, or a Dunsparce outside of Paldea learn Hyper Drill, or a Bisharp outside of Paldea go through the rite of passage of defeating three Leader Bisharp.
In that same vein, until we see Syrupy Apples, a Kitakami specialty outside of Kitakami, Dipplin is a Kitakami-only regional evolution, and until we see Metal Alloys outside of Unova, Archaludon is a Unova-only regional evolution.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 03:28:31 No.55125784 Report

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Assuming that the reason is to get you to play PLA to get them, one way or the other they're going to cut support for PLA and add them to a standard regional Pokedex.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 04:14:37 No.55125936 Report

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>>55125567
Thanks to the switch movecut and itemcut between games, probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 04:19:52 No.55125960 Report

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>>55125751
>kitakami and unova only
>buy syrup apple
>go to paldea in sv
>evolve into dipplin
Completely different from stantler not being able to evolve, even if transferred to sv knowing psyshield bash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 04:50:32 No.55126084 Report

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>>55125751
>we’ve yet to see
I literally caught and evolved Primeape and Dunsparce entirely in Kitakami to fill out my dex. What the fuck are you even talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 05:12:00 No.55126137 Report

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>>55125419
Lol this actually makes it worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 05:28:50 No.55126211 Report

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>>55124536
>is there an in-lore reason
people will say so but there's not really, these two and kleavor are normal evolutions that'll probably have accessible availability going forward. besides the obvious - the games were developed at the same time by different people and they didn't want to put them in base SV in case of changes made late in PLA's dev and they didn't want to go back and edit their evo methods, dex entries, etc. into SV in the short period between PLA's launch and SV going gold either - there's no truly good reason they haven't at least been made fully accessible and functional in the DLC. i don't expect this problem to stick around though.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 06:48:55 No.55126464 Report

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>>55124536
You literally encounter an Ursaluna in teal mask. So they can still exist, but you gotta remember, even in LA, they were incredibly rare. Outside of any you evolve yourself, the only known ones to exist in Hisui were the nobles. They required very specific conditions to evolve, and it seems that those conditions got harder to near impossible with time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 07:15:45 No.55126549 Report

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>>55124536
The need simply wasn't necessary anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 07:15:54 No.55126550 Report

Quoted By: >>55126768

>>55124536
It's so you buy Arceus. I thought it was obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 07:45:08 No.55126603 Report

Quoted By: >>55126682

>>55124536
>let's make stantler grow a beard and call it a new pokemon!
>let's slap grey shit on ursaring and call it a new pokemon!
cross gen evos ever since the 3d era were a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 08:27:58 No.55126682 Report

Quoted By: >>55126718

>>55126603
blah blah blah, you make the same post in every thread. get new material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 08:36:50 No.55126705 Report

Quoted By: >>55126777

Why do Hisuian Sneasel and Hisuian Qwilfish no longer exist in modern-day Sinnoh, even though they're native to the region?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 08:44:04 No.55126718 Report

Quoted By: >>55126751

>>55126682
NEVER
gamefreak needs to be criticized 24/7
the pokemon designs from the 3D are some of the worst things they ever made

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 08:58:45 No.55126751 Report

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>>55126718
why don't you spam their social media posts where they can actually see your protests instead of the irrelevant zimbabwean fruit husking forum then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 09:08:40 No.55126768 Report

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>>55126550
Yes this is real reason. People are just trying to justify it using the lore only. My only problem with transfer using home is that I know home isn't an app that will last. They will turn off the servers and won't let you transfer it without internet connection. I know this isn't gonna be a problem now but still pisses me off

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Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 09:12:02 No.55126777 Report

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>>55126705
Why don't wolves and sea lions no longer exist in modern Hokkaido, even though they're native to the region?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Dec 2023 09:12:53 No.55126779 Report

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>>55124877
thread should have ended here

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