>>55170475>Did Game Freak respect the Johto starters (Pokemon that Game FReak hates so much that they were specifically designed to fail so that KANTOOOOO starters would look stronger) enough to allow them to be good That is what you are asking, and if you weren't a newfag, you'd know that only Feraligatr, is allowed to be decent and that's only becauase Water is such a broken type its impossible to sabaotge, and even then Gatr is still outclassed by broken nu-gen shit,
so yes, collectively they are still bad, not sure why you need me to tell you that unless youre a complete an total retard
