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Ignoring the gameplay itself, just comparing the quality and polish of the two games, it is clear that PLA is far superior, but why?
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>>55231691 The director of PLA (Iwao) actually seems to care about Pokemon, even if he is rather inexperienced over all.
Director of SV (Ohmori) not only was groomed by Masuda, he's also doesn't care and just sees Pokemon as a simple paycheck.
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>>55231691 because it has only like 200 shitmons in it lol
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>>55231712 I really hope that through the Switch era, GAME FREAK finally understands what real fans of Pokémon want (people who hated SwShit, BDSPiss and Scat/Vomit and praised PLA).
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>>55231733 >I really hope that through the Switch era, GAME FREAK finally understands what real fans of Pokémon want (people who hated SwShit, BDSPiss and Scat/Vomit and praised PLA). KEK! Swsh and sv are thé second and fourth best selling pokemon games of all time and bdsp is the best selling remake despite being made by a third party. Meanwhile plass flopped harder than even let’s go. you retards bought every single Pokémon game on switch anyway EXCEPT for the single one you pretend to like.
LOL
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>>55231810 cope harder retard. mcdonalds is fucking digusting food despite high sales
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you have to be legit blind and stupid to have such an opinion
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>>55231912 Explain how I'm wrong.
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>>55231691 They weren't developed in sequence but in parallel.
And Iwao is just a better director it seems.
Which is why none of the good things from PLA had time to be carried over to SV.
Gen 10 will probably have the PLA improvements.
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>>55231810 BDSP flopped because they're shit games. PLA's sales aren't as good because they released it right after the biggest marketable holiday. I know you Discord migrants don't think too hard, but might be worth a try before posting. :)
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>>55231691 >Why was the quality of PLA so much higher than SV? Said no one ever.
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>>55231942 >PLA has beta test stuff that hasn't been used yet >SV has beta test stuff like the pokemon control Damn next game gonna be amazing!
Anonymous
>>55231691 Anyone saying it's because of the director is a retard, it's solely because PLA's scope was far smaller, meaning there was more time for polish within the 3 year devtime both games had
Also there are turning animations in SV you dipshit
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>>55231691 Because they limited the scope and it shows. With SV they bit off more than they could chew. This is why I skipped SV.
>>55231712 Iwao made PLA? It makes so much fucking sense why it was good, I was wondering why I enjoyed it so much
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>>55231712 Iwao literally needs to become the director of the series, he made 2 of the best games of the 3D era being PLA and USUM (which I didn't enjoy but you can see the effort)
Anonymous
>>55231810 BDSP was a failure since it only barely outsold a 3DS game on a substantially more popular platform. They would've had higher internal projections and expectations considering just how popular Sinnoh is as a region (mainly because Gen 4 was an extra long generation so more people were exposed to Sinnoh)
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>>55231965 >XY is their first 3D game, ORAS will have improvements >ORAS was made using the XY engine, Gen 7 will be better >SM is still on the 3DS so you can't really expect anything better than what we already got >USUM is made using the SM engine; once Gen 8 gets here it will be better >LGPE are their first Switch game, Gen 8 proper will be better >SS was developed in parallel to LGPE, the next Switch game will be better How many CONSECUTIVE bad games does Game Freak need to release before you start to doubt them?
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>>55231712 >he's also doesn't care and just sees Pokemon as a simple paycheck. I don't really care what you think of the guy's ability to direct, but it's pretty clear from interviews and his words that he cares a whole lot about the games he makes. SV's story was only as good as it was because he was apparently drawing from personal events when it was drafted.
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>>55231997 >BDSP was a failure since it only barely outsold a 3DS game on a substantially more popular platform The DS sold almost twice as much as the GBA but DP only beat RS' sales by 2 million~, does that mean Gen 4 was a flop too?
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>>55232002 Actions speak louder than words. You can claim you care about something, but if every time you do it the results are bad, eventually people will realize you don't mean it.
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>>55231999 They have the potential though, I think they just need to make Iwao or any other person like Morimoto the director again. Or at least put Iwao on all revisits.
I used to be skeptical of the people arguing that the director makes a difference but the fact that the first 3D Pokemon game I can ever say I truly loved is the one not made by Ohmori proves me wrong.
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>>55232009 Being passionate about something isn't a one to one correlation to being good with it, which literally any creative can tell you. Christian Chandler is passionate about drawing but he sure as fuck isn't good at it
Anonymous
>>55232007 Different time, era, circumstances. Gaming is a lot more popular now than in 2007
Anonymous
>>55231691 Now imagije if the game had actual trainers and the trainer battle animations didnt swap back to the shitty stand in one spot animations
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>>55232024 >Gaming is a lot more popular now than in 2007 Holy shit shut the fuck up. Not only was Pokemon ITSELF massively responsible for the place gaming has among billion-dollar industries now, but it's also unique in that it penetrated several demographics that otherwise wouldn't have been invested in the gaming landscape at the point in which it was created. It will pretty much ALWAYS have an audience, and that combined with the DS' explosive success should've meant substantially more interest in their premier entry on Nintendo's newest handheld if this shitty logic is being followed.
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>>55232032 >now imagine if the game had more meaningless filler content I’d rather not thanks
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>>55231968 >Also there are turning animations in SV you dipshit Not for the 'Raidons, which you would know if you actually read my post.
Dipshit.
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>>55232002 >it's pretty clear from interviews and his words that he cares a whole lot about the games he makes >ORAS >SM >SwSh >SV How many more chances are we giving him? It's time for a new director.
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>>55232040 Truuuuuuueeee dude i like the part where you catch the pokemon and use night shade 40 times brah its awesome!!! Who needs more than that broski!!!
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>>55232059 At least Masuda made some good games
Anonymous
>>55232044 Firstly, you split one thought into two sentence needlessly, making them look wholly unrelated. Learn what a semicolon is.
Secondly, Wyrdeer doesn't really have a turn animation either, they just simulate one by having it shift forward every time you want to change directions no matter how hard you press down on the stick. This is most obvious when turning from front to back.
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>>55232032 >Now imagine if the game had [thing it already has] Wow
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>>55232104 More trainers would be cool for the next game but PLA at least has an in lore explanation which is that people are scared of Pokemon so most aren't trainers. They should've let you battle the wardens though, even if in postgame, like Melli, Palina etc.. as pseudo-gym leaders
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>>55232016 But they don't need to try to sell their games so it will never happen haha
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>>55231965 That's not what I was trying to say at all. I was just stating how things are, but its is indeed shitty that they release these obvious beta tests like the wild area and the sync thing.
That said
>PLA has beta test stuff that hasn't been used yet No, PLA was a complete game, there's no obvious beta test here. Its just that it was better at developing 3d exploration with free camera than SV.
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>>55232256 >No, PLA was a complete game I like PLA but I really don't agree with this. Implementation of the ridemons felt clunky as fuck (the fact that the speed up was tied to B meaning you couldn't shift the camera while moving at max speed was retarded), the maps felt underbaked in terms of geometry and points of interest (it takes until the literal last two areas of FIVE to get any interesting cave interiors), trainer battles were overly rare even in contexts where more would've made sense like at Sisu's training grounds or Warden rematches, the battle system for trainers was fucking awful and felt like a massive shit was taken over the series' consideration of base mechanics built up over 20 years, and the research milestones felt copypasted and repetitive-belying a clear "quantity over quality" approach to their implementation.
It felt like an above-average proof-of-concept when all was said and done
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>>55232283 I read what you said and I agree with literally every point. Yet I have no idea why but I had so much more fun with PLA than Gens 6, 7 and 8. I didn't even play Sinnoh games either until 2017.
