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Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:25:02 No.55263965 View View Reply Original Report

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>kills the fun in your series

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:27:06 No.55263971 Report

Quoted By: >>55263979 >>55264033 >>55264042 >>55264067 >>55264527

bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:27:09 No.55263972 Report

Quoted By: >>55264087

>>55263965
Issue is that they didn't take the opportunity to redistribute Gens 1-3 mons stats and just fucking let most of them be shit mixed attackers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:28:49 No.55263979 Report

Quoted By: >>55264056

>>55263971
>dude I heckin love STAB moves!
>build variety? coverage? who needs that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:44:10 No.55264029 Report

Quoted By: >>55264059 >>55264066 >>55264971

>I want Flareon to be completely unusable!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:45:03 No.55264033 Report

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>>55263971
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:46:06 No.55264042 Report

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>>55263971
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:49:18 No.55264056 Report

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>>55263979
>>dude I heckin love STAB moves!
I didn't know that Gyarados has a good physical Flying attack thanks to the split.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:50:03 No.55264059 Report

Quoted By: >>55265005

>>55264029
>dude my physical attacker that can learn Shadow Ball, Iron Tail and Hyper Beam is literally unusable!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:52:47 No.55264066 Report

Quoted By: >>55264875

>>55264029
Flareon didn't have moves in gen 4 either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:53:13 No.55264067 Report

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>>55263971
fpbp

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:53:44 No.55264070 Report

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Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:53:59 No.55264071 Report

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https://files.catbox.moe/i9233k.zip
There hasn't been an /rheg/ to shill in all year, so I'll take this opportunity to post now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:55:49 No.55264079 Report

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>>55264071
im not clicking that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 14:57:26 No.55264087 Report

Quoted By: >>55264096

>>55263972
Yeah this was the real problem

>Gen 1 had only Special stat
>Worked out somewhat since you couldn't completely butcher the special stat every time since it was tied to special defense
>Gen 2-3
>some mons absolutely neutered since they'd be given base stats that did not reflect their typing at all
>mons who had decent special before was shafted by getting high special defense instead of special attack
>Gen 4
>Mons finally having access to workable STABs again
>brainlets somehow interpret this as a problem

It's all so tiresome

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:00:27 No.55264096 Report

Quoted By: >>55264199

>>55264087
>>some mons absolutely neutered
If something lacking STAB was enough to keep it down, it wasn't good to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:13:14 No.55264138 Report

Quoted By: >>55264147

>>55263965
Keeping the physical/special split tied to move type could have worked, had they actually designed types accordingly. Instead you had weird stuff like all dark-types before gen 4 being physical attackers but dark being a special type despite it including moves like bite and crunch, which clearly should be physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:16:38 No.55264147 Report

Quoted By: >>55264532 >>55264584

>>55264138
Dark was the inverse of Ghost. Bite and Crunch were still Normal-type during this period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:18:52 No.55264154 Report

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>>55263965
>improving the gameplay and giving you the option to use more strategies is...le bad!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:24:44 No.55264170 Report

Quoted By: >>55264237

>>55263965
every game before gen5 is unplayable because of the combination of no physical special split and shitty movesetes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:25:36 No.55264176 Report

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/vp/ the totalitarian contrarians

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:30:19 No.55264199 Report

Quoted By: >>55264214

>>55264096
>introducing the phys/spec split is an affront to the predetermined fates of previously existing mons

That's a new one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:33:28 No.55264214 Report

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>>55264199
Lots of Pokemon with "wrong" types were still able to thrive without using their STAB moves.
That said, I still like the split. I just see the value in both systems. /vp/ loves to exaggerate and pretend the games are totally unplayable because Gengar doesn't use Shadow Ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:34:47 No.55264220 Report

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>>55263965
based OP for once

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:36:59 No.55264233 Report

Quoted By: >>55264258

>muh flareon
>muh gengar
Every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:37:10 No.55264236 Report

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Thank God I don't care about any of this shit and just pick the coolest looking moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:37:13 No.55264237 Report

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>>55264170
you are literally playing the games wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:37:46 No.55264245 Report

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>kills the fun in your series

as if battling was ever the fun part of this series

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:38:13 No.55264248 Report

Quoted By: >>55264289

>>55263965
>makes my favorite Pokémon actually usable
How about you fuck yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:40:32 No.55264258 Report

Quoted By: >>55264274

>>55264233
>nooooo! you can't use an example more than once that doesn't count!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:45:04 No.55264274 Report

Quoted By: >>55264287

>>55264258
When like 400 pokemon were affected by the split it's a bit retarded to only have 2 examples that you use over and over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:47:48 No.55264287 Report

Quoted By: >>55264290

>>55264274
There wasn't 400 Pokemon pre-split, even counting NFEs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:48:24 No.55264289 Report

Quoted By: >>55264375

>>55264248
>I'm terrible at the game and don't understand how it works so that means the pokemon wasn't usable before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:48:58 No.55264290 Report

Quoted By: >>55264306

>>55264287
>like 400
>like
Learn to read, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:52:29 No.55264306 Report

Quoted By: >>55264331

>>55264290
It's not even close to 400.
What would you rather be brought up instead? Gyarados? Tyranitar? Azumarill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:57:47 No.55264331 Report

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>>55264306
>386 isn't close to 400
Not even reading anything else from you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 15:59:19 No.55264344 Report

Quoted By: >>55264353

You're just looking for any reason to dismiss a conflicting argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:00:28 No.55264353 Report

Quoted By: >>55264363

>>55264344
>saying random pokemon names is an argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:02:49 No.55264363 Report

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>>55264353
>saying random pokemon names invalidates an argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:06:20 No.55264375 Report

Quoted By: >>55265037

>>55264289
Nah, you’re just too retarded to keep up with two extra stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:08:33 No.55264381 Report

Quoted By: >>55264395

Stay mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:11:24 No.55264395 Report

Quoted By: >>55264514

>>55264381
>bitch replying
It's very clear who's the mad one here kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:14:28 No.55264410 Report

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>MUH SET VARIETY THOOOOO!!!
Gen 3 had a lot of set variety back then because quality control when the player base was inexperienced was virtually non-existant. Most “Variety” isn’t even Variety either. Shit like “Endeavor Smeargle” and “LvL 5 Endeavor Smeargle” are considered 2 seperate sets and both are listed despite being fucking awful.
The reason why you don’t see sets like “Defensive Gengar” which is just offensive Gengar with a different EV spread and will-o-wisp, is because the playerbase got better at the game and better at quality control.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:21:55 No.55264452 Report

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>>55263965
>STILL seething after 20+ years
Abloo bloo my Alakazam can't use Fire Punch any more
Go fuck yourself

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:26:48 No.55264470 Report

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>>55263965
Another day another physical/special split thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:40:15 No.55264514 Report

Quoted By: >>55264540

>>55264395
Yeah, it’s you. Stay mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:43:20 No.55264527 Report

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>>55263971
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:43:49 No.55264532 Report

Quoted By: >>55264862

>>55264147
Bite was only normal in gen 1 when dark didn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:45:21 No.55264540 Report

Quoted By: >>55264581

>>55264514
No more bitch replying? You're getting brave :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:53:23 No.55264577 Report

Quoted By: >>55264607 >>55264661

>Play RPG.
>Recruit an earth mage.
>All the earth spells in the game actually scale off their garbage Strength stat.
sounds retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:54:43 No.55264581 Report

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>>55264540
Stay mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 16:54:53 No.55264584 Report

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>>55264147
Bite was only Normal in Gen I and Crunch never was. The fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 17:02:25 No.55264607 Report

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>>55264577
This assumes the only reason Pokemon have types at all is for offensive purposes.
If that were the case why would moves have separate types from the Pokemon? They would have just made every move be the same type as the Pokemon that uses it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 17:15:15 No.55264661 Report

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>>55264577
>capitalization
>periods
Learn how to greentext, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 17:17:40 No.55264675 Report

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>>55263965
sceptile hands typed this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 17:58:44 No.55264862 Report

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>>55264532
It was also normal in the 1997 demo. In that one, Dark was a complete inverse of Ghost. Right down to Normal being super effective against it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 18:02:17 No.55264875 Report

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>>55264066
There was a glitch in HGSS that let you get Flare Blitz on Flareon using Smeargle. I remember there was a "There, Flareon HAS moves" meme pic about it but that was years ago. Just like the Phy/Spec split.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 18:25:40 No.55264971 Report

Quoted By: >>55264994

>>55264029
flareon was never usable, but it was an eeveenigger, so no one of importance cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 18:31:04 No.55264994 Report

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>>55264971
>it was an eeveenigger, so no one of importance cares
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 18:33:18 No.55265005 Report

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>>55264059
Hyper Beam and Iron Tail are unusable moves, yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 18:42:31 No.55265037 Report

Quoted By: >>55265643

>>55264375
>said the retard who cries about needing the feature that encourages only using one stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 19:42:25 No.55265258 Report

Quoted By: >>55265622

>it's yet another thread that was blatantly made in bad faith for the purpose of inciting argumens
Sure, some buck is going to me a snarky reply to this post and twist my words against me, but I don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 20:49:04 No.55265622 Report

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>>55265258
The jannies need to stop being retarded cunts and either delete genwarring bullshit like this or kill themselves. I know which one their families would prefer and it doesn't involve this website.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 20:53:08 No.55265643 Report

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>>55265037
But enough about pre-split encouraging you to use hard Physical and hard Special walls like Skarm and Blissey.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 18 Jan 2024 21:20:19 No.55265769 Report

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>>55263965

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