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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:50:26 No.55271372 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>55271381 >>55271389 >>55271461 >>55271472 >>55271501 >>55271512 >>55271532 >>55271536 >>55271550 >>55271802 >>55272267 >>55272323 >>55272767 >>55272798

Safety Goggles, Paralyzed, Sturdy Shedinja into a Substitute gained through a Baton Pass.

How would you kill him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:52:04 No.55271381 Report

Quoted By: >>55271409

>>55271372
Knock Off Tyranitar

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:52:19 No.55271383 Report

Quoted By: >>55271392

How do you paralyze it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:52:59 No.55271389 Report

Quoted By: >>55271402 >>55271489

>>55271372
Infiltrator Crobat with Toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:53:13 No.55271392 Report

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>>55271383
It's an hypothetical scenario.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:54:19 No.55271402 Report

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>>55271389
How Crobat can damage the Substitute?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:55:20 No.55271409 Report

Quoted By: >>55271416 >>55271536

>>55271381
Substitute says hi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:56:17 No.55271416 Report

Quoted By: >>55271420 >>55271536

>>55271409
Knock Off breaks the Substitute then I can just use Knock Off again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:57:03 No.55271420 Report

Quoted By: >>55271431

>>55271416
Sturdy enters the chat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:58:02 No.55271426 Report

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Perish Song or Mold Breaker + Multi Hit Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 19:58:46 No.55271431 Report

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>>55271420
Knock Off still gets rid of the Safety Goggles and Ttar's sandstorm ignores full hp Sturdy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:00:13 No.55271441 Report

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Mold Breaker Haxorus with Snarl

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:02:57 No.55271452 Report

Quoted By: >>55271464 >>55271536

1. Place Stealth Rock
2. Use Roar
3. Shedinja has now lost Sturdy and Substitute and will die on next switch in

Roar is a sound-based move and hits through Substitute. Alternatively hit him with a supereffective attack to break the Substitute, then use Leech Seed or Infestation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:03:38 No.55271456 Report

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/69779849?page=1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:04:20 No.55271461 Report

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>>55271372
spikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:04:50 No.55271464 Report

Quoted By: >>55271507

>>55271452
Safety Googles..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:06:40 No.55271472 Report

Quoted By: >>55271495

>>55271372
Gastro Acid/Entrainment users

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:08:42 No.55271489 Report

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>>55271389
it's already paralyzed speedreader

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:09:24 No.55271495 Report

Quoted By: >>55271536

>>55271472
Substitute to the face

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:10:11 No.55271501 Report

Quoted By: >>55271728 >>55271854

>>55271372
if it has Sturdy then it doesn't have Wonder Guard? i press Ember two times?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:10:38 No.55271504 Report

Quoted By: >>55271525

Why wouldn't Mold Breaker work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:11:08 No.55271507 Report

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>>55271464
Safety Goggles protects from powder and spore-based moves, and the effects of harmful weather. NOT entry hazards. That's what Heavy-Duty Boots do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:12:04 No.55271512 Report

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>>55271372
name: Defensive Pivot (level 1)
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Pain Split
move 3: Whirlpool
move 4: Safeguard / Recycle / Endeavor
item: Safety Goggles / Lum Berry
ability: Sturdy
nature: Brave
evs:
ivs: 0 Def / 0 SpD / 0 Spe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:13:51 No.55271525 Report

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>>55271504
It will work, Sturdy is an ability that Mold Breaker ignores.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:15:06 No.55271532 Report

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>>55271372
Perish song?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:15:50 No.55271536 Report

Quoted By: >>55271569

>>55271372
>>55271409
>>55271416
>>55271452
>>55271495
Substitute won't work on Shedinja you retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:17:23 No.55271550 Report

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>>55271372
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/balanced-hackmons-suspects-and-bans-thread.3588586/

While I acknowledge that this mon can be annoying with Sturdy, there are many effective tools to manage it including (but not limited to)
Status
Hazards
Mold Breaker
Partial Trapping (e.g. Infestation, Fire Spin)
Ability Suppression e.g. Gastro Acid, Entrainment, (NEW) Core Enforcer
Other residual damage (e.g. Curse, Sandstorm, Rocky Helmet)
NEW: Ability-ignoring moves e.g. Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:20:33 No.55271569 Report

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>>55271536
>a Substitute gained through a Baton Pass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 20:49:43 No.55271728 Report

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>>55271501
You have to KO it in a single turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 21:02:31 No.55271802 Report

Quoted By: >>55272544 >>55272568

>>55271372
multi-hit moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 21:04:38 No.55271810 Report

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GMax Wildfire twice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 21:12:09 No.55271854 Report

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>>55271501
This won't work because Sturdy keeps you at 1 HP if you would otherwise take a KO from a move at full HP. Shedinja's max HP is 1, so it sets it back to max HP again, letting Sturdy activate again and again. A Sturdy Shedinja has to be killed indirectly, or Sturdy bypassed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 22:33:32 No.55272267 Report

Quoted By: >>55272334 >>55272337

>>55271372
Any Pokemon with access to Curse since it can bypass substitute and ignores sturdy. Next question

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 22:46:03 No.55272323 Report

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>>55271372
Can't Infiltrator Crobat with Confuse Ray kill it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 22:49:03 No.55272334 Report

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>>55272267
*Any ghost type pokemon with curse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 22:50:08 No.55272337 Report

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>>55272267
>Go Snorlax!
>Snorlax used Curse!
>Snorlax's Attack and Defense rose! Snorlax's Speed dropped!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 23:20:00 No.55272497 Report

Quoted By: >>55272530

Infiltrator Moongeist Beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 23:25:33 No.55272530 Report

Quoted By: >>55272551

>>55272497
Won't work. Moongeist Beam only ignores abilities if called directly, and no Pokemon that can have Infiltrator can learn Moongeist Beam. Calling it via Metronome or Mimic won't break Sturdy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 23:27:13 No.55272540 Report

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Um... excuse me, but didn't Smogon ban Substitute? This situation can never happen then

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 23:27:37 No.55272544 Report

Quoted By: >>55272568

>>55271802
Basically. Just need 3 hits (1 for the Sub, 1 for Sturdy, 1for the KO)

So any mon with Skill Link + a Multi-Hit that isn't Normal or Fighting Type, Loaded Dice + Multi-hit, Triple Axel or Surging Strike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 23:28:46 No.55272551 Report

Quoted By: >>55272561

>>55272530
So? You're ignoring the fact that it's a pure hypothetical. I've presented a solution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 23:30:01 No.55272561 Report

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>>55272551
Your solution just introduces more problems. Just have Lunala or Dawn Wings Necrozma use Moongeist Beam twice and it's done. No need for Infiltrator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 23:31:38 No.55272568 Report

Quoted By: >>55272575

>>55271802
>>55272544
This also won't work. Study won't activate for multi-hit moves if the hit Pokemon isn't at full HP, but Shedinja has 1 HP, and so will always be at full HP. Every hit will activate Sturdy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jan 2024 23:33:15 No.55272575 Report

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>>55272568
Fuck.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 20 Jan 2024 00:15:46 No.55272767 Report

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>>55271372
*leech seeds u*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2024 00:20:59 No.55272798 Report

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>>55271372
mold breaker, ez

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