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Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:14:51 No.55435171 View View Reply Original Report

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>we will never get a high effort game like XY again

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Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:15:59 No.55435177 Report

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Kalos... home.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:16:02 No.55435178 Report

Quoted By: >>55438042 >>55440431

>>55435171
>XY
>High effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:16:30 No.55435182 Report

Quoted By: >>55440431

>implying XY was high effort
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:17:52 No.55435185 Report

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if Pokémon Z came out and improved upon X&Y like Platinum did on Diamond and Pearl, people would shit on Gen 6 a lot less

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:18:36 No.55435190 Report

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>>55435185
We were robbed of the most kino Pokemon game ever...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:18:50 No.55435193 Report

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>>55435171
Everybody laugh at the faggot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:20:14 No.55435197 Report

Quoted By: >>55440431

>>55435171
>xy
>high effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:20:15 No.55435198 Report

Quoted By: >>55435299

>>55435185
It would still be shit though
It would take a complete rework and overhaul like emerald did to make XY acceptable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:32:44 No.55435277 Report

Quoted By: >>55435288

>>55435185
>if Pokémon Z came out and improved upon X&Y
there's nothing to improve

XY already has good speed, pokemon distribution and battle facilities, unlike DPPt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:34:53 No.55435288 Report

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>>55435277
>there's nothing to improve
In my opinion there's plenty they could have added to allow for a more satisfying experience instead of just being stuck with XY as the only way to go through Kalos until remakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:37:29 No.55435299 Report

Quoted By: >>55435317 >>55439202

>>55435185
Like Emerald or Platinum, people would praise Z endlessly as one of the best games of all time thanks to its few additions even though it's just the same game. Third version should have never existed. It's a good thing Z didn't come out.

>>55435198
>complete rework and overhaul like emerald
Didn't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:41:55 No.55435314 Report

Quoted By: >>55435403 >>55438057 >>55439224

>>55435185
>Hideous models
>EXP All
>Hideous mega evolutions
>Fairy type
>Hideous region
>Entirely forgettable gym leaders and villains

What exactly would a Z version fix? Diamond and Pearl were a great base. Sinnoh was a good region with good Pokemon designs and fantastic battle mechanics. Platinum just ironed out a bunch of the flaws and added a ton of new content on top of the base game. The base was still very solid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:42:28 No.55435317 Report

Quoted By: >>55435328 >>55435368

>>55435299
>objectively better game shouldn't exist
Your logic is completely backwards. If one shouldn't come out, it should be the FIRST versions because they have less in them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:45:27 No.55435328 Report

Quoted By: >>55435331 >>55439207

>>55435317
>>objectively better game shouldn't exist
Yes because they should just get the game right the first time like XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:46:15 No.55435331 Report

Quoted By: >>55435391 >>55435399

>>55435328
I agree, but XY still needed some fixes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:53:45 No.55435366 Report

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>>55435185
well yeah, but it didnt so

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:53:59 No.55435368 Report

Quoted By: >>55435375

>>55435317
Not backwards at all. If they wanted to make the game better they'd try and improve it before release, or release free updates. No, the only reason third versions exist is because they wanted to sell the game again for no real reason, and then strategically avoid making them such as with BW or XY just to make you feel like you missed out on the original release if you tried to outsmart them by waiting. What they did with XY should have been the default since the beginning. No third versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:56:17 No.55435375 Report

Quoted By: >>55435537

>>55435368
It's your fault if you bought anything twice
>hey, we released a game last year and people are still buying it but it has flaws that we can very easily fix with a special edition to improve the experience of anyone who will buy them moving forward
>nah let's just continue to sell the flawed thing, ignoring that we can fix the flaws for all future buyers of this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:58:33 No.55435391 Report

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>>55435331
Not really. XY is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 16:58:59 No.55435392 Report

Quoted By: >>55435410 >>55435413

>>55435171
>finish campaign
>literally nothing to do
Well that was cool i guess lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 17:00:57 No.55435399 Report

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>>55435331
Wow just like... every game ever made

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 17:01:41 No.55435403 Report

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>>55435314
>EXP All
turn it off retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 17:03:56 No.55435410 Report

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>>55435392

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 17:04:42 No.55435413 Report

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>>55435392
>looker quest
>battle maison
>battle institute
>battle chateau
>inverse battle rematches
>rival rematches
>friend safari
>PvP
>fishing and pokeradar shiny hunting

No need to lie, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 17:29:51 No.55435537 Report

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>>55435375
>It's your fault if you bought anything twice
That's true, and irrelevant. It is also true, and actually relevant, that they sold the same thing twice, which is the thing we were talking about.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Feb 2024 20:53:02 No.55436506 Report

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x and y look good
i need to play them next

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 00:20:28 No.55437554 Report

Quoted By: >>55437987 >>55437994 >>55440431

>>55435171
>XY
>high effort games
Let me remind everyone again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 01:16:59 No.55437806 Report

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>>55435171
The Maison was a little too easy for the first ~40 battles of a streak, but it was fun (and the ribbons give cool titles).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 01:57:48 No.55437987 Report

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>>55437554
I don’t see the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 01:59:10 No.55437994 Report

Quoted By: >>55438007

>>55437554
guess that means platinum is a low effort game too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 02:01:18 No.55438007 Report

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>>55437994
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 02:12:10 No.55438042 Report

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>>55435178
In what way was it not? (Keeping in mind that high effort doesn't necessarily mean good).
>First 3D game so they couldn't use any previous models
>Not only had the 8 dimmensional grid instead of the 4 but also added the skates to keep mobility from feeling stiff.
>Lots of interactable objects. Even little stuff like sitting in benches
>Brought back Triple and Rotation battles from Gen V
>Entire new type and retroactively changing old pokemon to suit it.
>Mega evolution
You can absolutely criticize it for a lotta shit but I don't feel nearly the same sense of effort or care put into the last 2 or 3 generations of games. Even Gen 7 felt like a notable downgrade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 02:15:57 No.55438055 Report

Quoted By: >>55440431

>>55435171
>XY
>high effort
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 02:16:12 No.55438057 Report

Quoted By: >>55438123

>>55435314
>Hideous models
Subjective. I like them better than whatever the hell Gen 7 tried to do.
>EXP All
turn it off dipshit. This is one of the last games wher eyou can.
>Hideous mega evolutions
Some suck, some are great
>Fairy type
Welcome addition. Fuck Dragons
>Hideous Region
I can't take any region complaints seriously after fucking Paldea. I don't even remember enough to say if you're wrong or anything but holy shit we've reached a new level of dogshit region design.
>Entirely forgettable Gym leaders and villains
I'll give you that one. I can only name two of the Gen 6 villains and league members and two of them are the team boss and Champion.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 02:20:26 No.55438071 Report

Quoted By: >>55438088

>>55435185
>"If they made a better game, people would like it"
Damn man, real hot takes here. Too bad we live in reality, where XY is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 02:23:29 No.55438088 Report

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>>55438071
XY isn’t shit though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 02:34:39 No.55438123 Report

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>>55438057
>Subjective. I like them better than whatever the hell Gen 7 tried to do.
Gen 7 was literately just the Gen 6 models again.
Gen 7 at least had one gimmick that ended up turning into a cool concept. Regional forms is a fun way to bait nostalgia while still coming up with something new.
All of Gen 6's introductions were fucking terrible. Mega Evolution, 3D models, Shared EXP. Nothing it introduced improved the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 02:44:33 No.55438166 Report

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>>55435171
>counting pokemon amie and it's minigames as separate things
>crediting XY for the pokeradar
>battle chateu is the worst way to rebattle gym leaders, E4, and Champion
>crediting XY for rotation and triple battles when they actually killed them
The last one pisses me off the most because I vehemently think rotation could've been a decent format but the 3ds processing shitting itself ruined any chance it had to survive another gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 08:42:45 No.55439180 Report

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>>55435171
Pokeshit hasn't been high effort since HGSS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 08:44:31 No.55439182 Report

Quoted By: >>55440431

>>55435171
XY was the first game to make it so incredibly obvious that pokémon games are more rushed and a chicken with more steroids than blood in its veins

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 08:56:19 No.55439202 Report

Quoted By: >>55439469 >>55440397

>>55435299
> Didn't happen
It absolutely did, Emerald changed every single aspect of RS, they’re honestly nothing alike. Some may say RS was unfinished by design so they could release emerald later (it’s already obvious they had plans for other games with all the unavailable pokemon). The very logic of the game was changed. The whole concept of frontier brain was created in emerald for example. Even the fucking font of the game was changed kek
Compared to this, Crystal and Platinum are just nice additions onto already finished games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 08:57:51 No.55439207 Report

Quoted By: >>55439209

>>55435328
XY was horse shit dude. And it would still be horse shit with a third version. It was the first bad pokemon game, sadly first of many

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 08:58:49 No.55439209 Report

Quoted By: >>55439227

>>55439207
> It was the first bad pokemon game
What is black and white.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 09:02:53 No.55439224 Report

Quoted By: >>55439245

>>55435314
>Diamond and Pearl were a great base. Sinnoh was a good region with good Pokemon designs and fantastic battle mechanics.
no. dp is as shit as xy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 09:03:40 No.55439227 Report

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>>55439209
Miles better than anything that came out since XY, and honestly I’d be tempted to call them better than B2W2 too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 09:07:50 No.55439245 Report

Quoted By: >>55439454 >>55440374

>>55439224
Not even close.
DP doesn’t paywall lock cross gen transfer
DP doesn’t do female pandering muh character drama or friend groups
DP doesn’t casualize gameplay
DP actually has rare pokemon
DP doesn’t have romhack tier fan service distribution
DP doesn’t have powercrept gimmickshit
DP are actually well designed and well balanced games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 10:45:18 No.55439454 Report

Quoted By: >>55445594

>>55439245
DP has
>every 5 seconds cynthia interruption
>no real pokemon variety
>sinnoh s a region is shit
>ugly artstyle
>rare pokemon like munchlax, which is so fucking annoying to get
>crossgen transfer that is only available once a day
>pokemon exclusiv to catch if you have the cardridge of said game

I mean everything you say is shit about xy also is shit in dp but in another way, for example
>DP doesn’t have romhack tier fan service distribution
but it has such a shit dex that everyone makes the same teams over and over again
>DP actually has rare pokemon / XY doesn't have rare pokemon
but dp has the biggest dogshit rare pokemon.
And powercrept, garchomp. And not even from a comp perspective, just that it has 102 speed, like 2 speed more than mence.

Therefore both are dogshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 10:52:16 No.55439469 Report

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>>55439202
>Emerald changed every single aspect of RS, they’re honestly nothing alike
It's the same game with minor changes and some side additions. An improvement, but still the same game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:02:52 No.55440374 Report

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>>55439245
> DP doesn’t casualize gameplay
AHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:09:14 No.55440397 Report

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>>55439202
>changed every single aspect of RS
They put in a better font, a Battle Frontier, and what else?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:14:19 No.55440413 Report

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>>55435185
>Gen 6 in hypoterical situations

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:18:26 No.55440431 Report

Quoted By: >>55440455

>>55435171
>>55435178
>>55435182
>>55435197
>>55437554
>>55438055
>>55439182
XY DID have high effort in places like Amie, Super Training and the new 3D Models, but the main campaign and the postgame sucked. They should have put effort into the most important parts of the game instead of rushing everything.
Gen 6 could have been amazing if Kalos wasn't rushed and ORAS had Emerald content, but they simply don't care. People keep giving them money to this day anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:27:08 No.55440455 Report

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>>55440431
>but the main campaign and the postgame sucked
Nah, they were good. I got hundreds of hours out of the postgame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:30:18 No.55440468 Report

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XY to this day is the only game besides Scarlet/Violet where you could reasonably EV train your team before the end game. And it was actually fun to do. No other game compares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:35:26 No.55440488 Report

Quoted By: >>55440505

X/Y introduced the shitty sky battle animations GF would proceed to use to this fucking day despite having ground animations and i will not forgive them for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:37:54 No.55440498 Report

Quoted By: >>55442150

What would the X and Y remakes be called? X squared and Y squared?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 16:39:54 No.55440505 Report

Quoted By: >>55440705

>>55440488
>flying pokemon flying…is le bad
Man when this is the best complaint people can find about the game then XY must be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 17:27:22 No.55440705 Report

Quoted By: >>55440711

>>55440505
>permanently flying in dumb ways is bad
Yes anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 17:27:57 No.55440711 Report

Quoted By: >>55440719

>>55440705
They aren’t permanently flying though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 17:29:25 No.55440719 Report

Quoted By: >>55441078

>>55440711
they are when in battle, which sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 18:44:36 No.55441078 Report

Quoted By: >>55441351

>>55440719
how?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 19:27:48 No.55441336 Report

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>>55435171
>high effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 19:29:43 No.55441351 Report

Quoted By: >>55443101

>>55441078
Tropius, Skarmory, Charizard, and many others look much dumber when they're permanently flying in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Feb 2024 21:58:03 No.55442150 Report

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>>55440498
Based on the naming conventions of the past ones, something like Vital X and Grim Y probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 01:12:19 No.55443101 Report

Quoted By: >>55443116

>>55441351
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 01:16:44 No.55443116 Report

Quoted By: >>55445750

>>55443101
When they stood on the ground, they looked more ready for battle. Now they’re just hanging from invisible strings or desperately trying to stay aloft when that doesn’t make sense when in battle for most of them. Thus, they look dumber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 05:21:30 No.55444255 Report

Quoted By: >>55444263

>high effort
>the gen where a third of the story (power plant, Zygarde, Floette, multiple non mythic legendaries) was pre-planned for pokemon Z then thrown into the trash because gen 6 was too disliked and remains to this day the only generation that they moved on without coming back to in some form

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 05:24:07 No.55444263 Report

Quoted By: >>55444308

>>55444255
>it doesn't match the arbitrary fanfic I just made up therefore it isn't high effort

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 05:25:44 No.55444271 Report

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>>55435171
I wouldn't pay this unfinished slop again if I was paid to

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 05:32:27 No.55444301 Report

Quoted By: >>55444308

>Gen 6 was so perfect it didnt need a soulless third version cashgrab
Kalos... truly the GOAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 05:33:34 No.55444308 Report

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>>55444263
>>55444301
>flaws don’t count when it’s XY

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Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 13:22:04 No.55445581 Report

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>>Gen 6 was so perfect it didnt need a soulless third version cashgrab
>Kalos... truly the GOAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 13:27:14 No.55445594 Report

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>>55439454
God DP haters are mentally ill. Surely you don’t actually believe any of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 14:26:52 No.55445750 Report

Quoted By: >>55445843

>>55443116
> When they stood on the ground, they looked more ready for battle
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 15:07:35 No.55445843 Report

Quoted By: >>55445854

>>55445750
Idk anon, seems weird to be unnecessarily flapping away and wasting your energy while staring off into the distance past your enemy instead of posing in ways that brace for combat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 15:10:45 No.55445850 Report

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Gen 6 won't be playable until it gets a HGSS level of upgrade via the remakes in 3 to 9 years
But knowing modern gamefreak they might just re-release the same exact incomplete game as the originals with HD models and textures lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 15:11:27 No.55445854 Report

Quoted By: >>55445863

>>55445843
> instead of posing in ways that brace for combat
You mean like…being in the air ready to move instead of standing on the ground doing nothing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 15:14:36 No.55445863 Report

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>>55445854
They're in the air but they're not ready to move. They just float there without a care in the world visible. There is zero indication they're ready for attack, unlike in previous gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 15:17:32 No.55445874 Report

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>>55435185
agreed desu
S/M came out way, waaay too soon
and now we get a new generation every 2~3 years at most, at a time we already have lots of gens

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