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ITT: Boost some forgotten abilities but don't make them broken

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 23:02:40 No.55705482 View View Reply Original Report

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>Iron Fist: Raised from 20% to 30%
>Leaf Guard: Also raises defense +1 during sun

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 23:12:51 No.55705526 Report

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>60+ Atk Tough Claws Melmetal Ice Punch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Landorus-Therian: 340-404 (89.2 - 106%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

Melmetal fists wrote this post.
Iron fist should probably be 30% though, I'm not sure why tough claws is better in every way.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 23:14:25 No.55705536 Report

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>>55705482
Make Defeatist give .5 to every stat if HP is above half

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 23:21:18 No.55705581 Report

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>>55705536
>defeatist
That ability needs to burn in Hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 23:22:20 No.55705587 Report

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Strong Jaw extends to Bug Bite and Leech Life

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 23:24:38 No.55705596 Report

Quoted By: >>55705604 >>55710567

>>55705482
Iron Fist needs to be buffed to at least 40%, as of now it's literally an infinitely worse version of Tough Claws that works on less than a quarter of the moves Tough Claws does.

Leaf Guard should just work the same as Hydration does and heal you at the end of the turn so you can use it with Rest to restore HP. It's still shit but at least maybe Leafeon or Meganium could use it to tank shit; every other mon that gets it has a better ability

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 23:25:49 No.55705604 Report

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>>55705596
How about Leaf Guard goes fuck itself and die in a hole? Meganium deserves better than that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 04:21:45 No.55706675 Report

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Normalize affects the entire field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 04:42:43 No.55706766 Report

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>>55705482
>Corrosion
Make it Scrappy for Steel-types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 04:44:20 No.55706773 Report

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>>55706766
already a good ability, doesn't need buffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 04:52:06 No.55706794 Report

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Solar Power gives a passive 20% boost in neutral weather and only gives no boost in non-sun weather.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 04:59:18 No.55706821 Report

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>Anticipation
This fucking ability really needs fixing.
>only activates when the user enters the battlefield
Fuck that, make it activate whenever the opponent switches in a new pokemon too
>pokemon shudders if the opponent has a super-effective or OHKO move
Fucking Christ, quit pussy-footing around and just reveal the goddamn move
Also, make it detect moves your ally is weak to as well.
There, it's already way fucking better than it was before. I don't know if you anons want to make more drastic changes but this ability has no reason to be as dogshit as it is

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 08:21:30 No.55707355 Report

Quoted By: >>55708498 >>55708791 >>55709304 >>55710675

>Normalize: When in battle, EVERY on the field has their abilities converted to Normal-type
Goodbye doubles

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 14:19:27 No.55708191 Report

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>Hyper Cutter
Now prevents self-inflicted attack drops as well
Boosts Slicing Moves by 20%

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 15:41:54 No.55708498 Report

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>>55707355
>OP explicitly says not make abilities overpowered
>Makes Normalize overpowered

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 15:46:20 No.55708521 Report

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>>55705482
Run away prevents being trapped
Ball fetch gives you back an item you threw away with fling
Honey gather uses sweet scent on switch in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 15:53:41 No.55708556 Report

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>>55705482
Slow Start should only affect Speed.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 16:38:01 No.55708791 Report

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>>55708498
>>55707355
i wouldn't see how it'd make normalize OP, delcatty's so frail that you'd have to play a game of protecting it from EVERY move now including ghost mo--
>Delcatty terastralized into the Ghost type!

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 17:02:49 No.55708895 Report

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>>55708498
Oh I actually thought OP said explicitly to make them OP, my mistake.
>>55708791
Skill Swap, using a Ghost Pokemon. Switch Delcatty out for a shadow tag mon. Match over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 17:04:31 No.55708908 Report

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>>55705482
>Frisk
When it enters a battle, the Pokémon can check an opposing Pokémon's held item and has a 50% to take it, removing the current held item with the new one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 17:07:19 No.55708926 Report

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>>55705482
>Pixilate: Also changes your Pokemon's gender to female

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 17:14:39 No.55708957 Report

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>>55706773
Anon, the ability is weak. What's the point of poisoning Steel types if they are still immune to poison?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 17:14:54 No.55708958 Report

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>Berserk
Raises Sp. Atk once per hit taken, instead of only at half-HP.
>Run Away
User is unaffected by trapping abilities or moves.
>Guts
Activates during ANY status, including sleep.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 17:15:03 No.55708959 Report

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Okay guys I am sorry, I'm going to try to follow the rules now.
Cute Charm
>In addition to its normal effects, prevents all Pokemon of the opposite gender from switching out.
Normalize
>In addition to its normal effects, moves used by this Pokemon now ignore resistance or immunity to Normal-type moves.
Wonder Skin
>Status moves targeting this Pokemon will always miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 18:26:14 No.55709281 Report

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>>55705482
>Early bird
Always wakes up on the second turn of sleep and grants +2 priority to the next move used.
>Unnerve
Lowers the opponents SpA by one stage on switchin
>Keen eye
Raises users move accuracy by 33% and power of flying type moves by 50%.
>Run away
Getting hit by a move sharply raises Speed and the user is always able to switch out/escape
>Pickup
Picks up used up items (non berries), works with fling
>Ball fetch
The above for Orb items but ignores their negative effects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 18:31:12 No.55709304 Report

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>>55707355
>>55708791
>Play Doubles
>Everyone uses Delcatty with 5 Ghost types to make the game unplayable unless you use stupid shit like Assaultvest 4 status move sets to Struggle.
>Skill Swap Sableye is now unkillable even without that structure

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 23:04:04 No.55710506 Report

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>Vital Spirit
>The Pokémon cannot be prevented from acting by any status condition
>Any indirect damage it takes is doubled though

Bone-Dry Dunes can solo Charizard EZ

Bone-Dry Dunes can solo Charizard EZ Mon 08 Apr 2024 23:07:36 No.55710540 Report

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>>55708521
>Honey gather uses sweet scent on switch in
Isn't that Dipplin and Hydrapple's Ability, but better cause it's not a one time thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 23:11:23 No.55710567 Report

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>>55705596
"Tetsu no Kobushi" can be read as "Iron Fist", but also "Wise Fist".

There's room for something unique there, like making punching moves super-effective against Fighting types, or having them use the foe's lower defensive stat to determine damage.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 23:26:18 No.55710639 Report

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>>55705482
>slow start
>turn count is now preserved when switching out
That's it. That's all it takes to turn Regigias from being a turbo shitmon into a fun gimmick set.
Like it wouldn't be good, but it'd at least be usable..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 23:33:55 No.55710675 Report

Quoted By: >>55710740

>>55707355
Maybe instead,it could be that each move is at least normally effective on all matchups.
Normals can hit ghosts,Ground can Hit Flying etc. and you can even paralyze Electric types or Burn Fire types. Stuff like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 23:46:21 No.55710740 Report

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>>55710675
That's how I'd handle a Ghost-type terrain move (on top of the expected +30% power to Ghost moves). Call it "Liminal Terrain".

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