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Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:15:50 No.55718628 View View Reply Original Report

how do you fix it?
>hard mode: buff must be eating/swallowing related

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:19:34 No.55718639 Report

Quoted By: >>55718655

>>55718628
New ability that makes him eat opponetn's consumable item on entrence

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:22:47 No.55718648 Report

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>>55718628
Stockpile on switch in ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:23:49 No.55718653 Report

Quoted By: >>55718670 >>55719866

>>55718628
Somewhat tangential but Stockpile/Spit up/swallow should've never been separate moves. I get what they were going for but it's not worth it to have all those moves on your team.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:24:06 No.55718655 Report

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>>55718639
>consumable
It would be funnier if it wasn't even limited by that, just straight eats your opponent's items on switch-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:24:37 No.55718658 Report

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>>55718628
New ability that makes him eat his opponent on entrance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:28:30 No.55718670 Report

Quoted By: >>55718787

>>55718653
stockpile didnt even raise defenses gen 3. I dont know what dev thought spending 3 turns charging up a big heal or attack was a good idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:30:08 No.55718673 Report

Quoted By: >>55718757

>>55718628
Something like Dondozo and Commander. Give it a move that lets it eat it's partner in doubles and give itself a +2 to everything, be unable to switch, and heal for its partner's remaining health. You'd still be held back by needing to waste a moveslot on it, and you'd have to take a turn to set up. That said, you could still have the partner attack first, then get eaten later that turn so there's that I guess. Once Swalot faints the partner would pop out, like Tatsugiri.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:32:38 No.55718679 Report

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>>55718628
>how do you fix it?
Evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:33:12 No.55718682 Report

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>>55718628
+50 speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:39:02 No.55718699 Report

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>>55718628
new ability that makes the user always have 2-3 stockipiles, this wouldn't give it buffs to def/spdef though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:40:28 No.55718702 Report

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Recover

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:42:30 No.55718710 Report

Quoted By: >>55721780

There is nothing to fix, he's a champ and a bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 15:55:11 No.55718757 Report

Quoted By: >>55721999

>>55718673
>Once Swalot faints the partner would pop out, like Tatsugiri.
Based until this part, partner should either faint after being eaten or start using Struggle on Swalot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 16:01:53 No.55718787 Report

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>>55718670
It’s mostly just swallow being shit. Why is swallow with 1 stockpile WORSE than regular recovery moves?
It should be
Swallow with 1 stockpile: 2/3 recovery
Swallow with 2 stockpiles: 100% recovery
Swallow with 3 stockpiles: 100% recovery + status healed
Also spit up bp should be buffed to 150/300/450

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 16:58:42 No.55719012 Report

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>>55718628
New ability: Ravenous (immediately eats its held berry upon entering battle. If this pokémon makes contact with the opponent and they have a berry equipped, it is immediately consumed too)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 21:01:45 No.55719860 Report

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>>55718628
Sticky Hold now prevents Pokemon from escaping if they make contact with the user

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 21:03:12 No.55719866 Report

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>>55718653
Stockpile should really just be an ability that activates at the end of each turn or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 23:09:27 No.55720358 Report

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>>55718628
New ability: Aftertaste
>After consuming a berry, Swalot will receive the effect of that berry at the end of every turn until it switches out.
Use this with Sitrus and you can recover 25% every turn. Alternatively, you could use the Kee or Maranga berries to have constant Defense/Special Defense buffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 23:18:29 No.55720380 Report

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>>55718628
Evolve it again. It looks like it could be an NFE

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Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 23:45:02 No.55720473 Report

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>>55718628
>Stockpile limit increased to 6
>Stockpile gives 2 stacks per use
>Stockpile automatically eats your berry when used
>If Stockpile eats a berry, you get 4 stacks instead
>Spit Up/Swallow still maxed at 3 stacks
As far as Swallot specifically, he ought to have a Poison version of Pixelate or Aerilate. Also, Garbodor, Muk, Wheezing, and Swallot all need third evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Apr 2024 23:55:35 No.55720510 Report

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>>55718628
Eats opposing trainer on switch-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 00:02:13 No.55720547 Report

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>>55718628
give it a higher attacking stat, at least 105
and also like 10-15 extra points in defenses
and maybe a signature STAB move that drains health

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 00:03:33 No.55720552 Report

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>>55718628
-40 speed
-50 special attack
+50 HP
+40 attack
unaware

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 00:04:27 No.55720557 Report

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>>55718628
like others said giving it an ability that lets it "eat" the opponent's item (disabling it for the rest of the match. Since we're most likely getting megas back letting it disable the opponent mega/primal could be a big thing and would let it shine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 06:37:01 No.55721780 Report

Quoted By: >>55723008

>>55718710
Swalot is hidden gem in Hoenn.
Damn extensive movepool both via level up and TMs, overall pretty balanced stats with focus on bulk, two easy to mitigate weaknesses.
The only problem is that it's rare encounter on one route so unless you specifically target it, you'll probably miss it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 06:59:45 No.55721814 Report

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>>55718628
Unironically: use him in a Violet playthrough and not on smogon. You can find gulpin early, and it learns good moves early on (yawn, toxic), an dit has a really fast leveling rate in the early game.
At higher levels you can have fun with Stuff cheeks+ your berry of choice + belch + recycle

Not every pokémon needs to be competitve qnd can just be niche picks for your playthrough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 07:06:48 No.55721826 Report

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>>55718628
New ability has it eat hazards on entry, and the more hazards the higher the stockpile number it gets from eating them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 07:07:44 No.55721830 Report

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You can't fix it. It was only created as a lazy muk clone but ugly and worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 08:47:21 No.55721999 Report

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>>55718757
I think if the partner fainted, then it wouldn't be worth it. Look at things like Explosion; even a move like that is rarely worth using and it's better than a +2 omni boost to one Pokemon that then locks you into a 2v1. Now, if your partner fainted, but then you could switch another Pokemon it, that might be worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 14:48:18 No.55722755 Report

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>>55718628
Give it some version of gulp missile that triggers on poison moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 15:21:36 No.55722852 Report

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Gulp Missle
+10 Speed
Recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 16:04:13 No.55723008 Report

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>>55721780
I was surprised actually, I thought I would have to drop it mid game but he made it to the end.

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