>>55726864>>55726953>they all require an item to be held to transform and the lore around all of their origin forms indicate they took on those forms in defiance/emulation of arceus.>origin formes of Dialga and Palkia have been created by Arceus?Well, we have direct proof that Arceus created these 3 celestial beings since you can acquire them in HGSS as an egg from Arceus itself.
Now, you may say that their forms you acquire them are the real forms, but there is a Lore reason for this.
Firstly, the names. "Altered and Origin" forms hint at which ones are the true forms.
Secondly, Giratina shows us that it in "our world" it is in the Altered state. Only entering its Origin form when in its dimension. The same could be similar for Palkia and Dialga. They are in their altered form when on earth, but their true (origin) form is revealed when they are in the domain of the creator or true home -- wherever that is.
TPCi also literally had no idea they would be making Origin forms of palkia and dialga at the time of gen4.
Why they have items to revert back to their origin form in our universe makes sense from a "christian" deity perspective. Angels appeared to the apostles and lay people in a human form to not frighten them. Their true form are the "biblically accurate angel" meme we see all the time and it's creepy as fuck. Much like the grotesque origin formes.
