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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:03:54 No.55724496 View View Reply Original Report

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Why does Gamefreak keep changing Pokemon color palettes?

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:06:32 No.55724512 Report

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Whoever did the models for PLA needs to be doing the models for the main games, and whoever did them for SV needs to be fired.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:07:41 No.55724517 Report

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:09:07 No.55724526 Report

Quoted By: >>55724565 >>55724591 >>55724653 >>55725005 >>55725027 >>55727060

Why is Electrode's menu sprite different to its model colour?

Why is it pink?!?!?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:09:19 No.55724527 Report

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>>55724496
reminder that people who whine about desaturation use fanfiction colors for their argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:13:20 No.55724542 Report

Quoted By: >>55724565 >>55724567 >>55724653

>>55724527
I never understood this argument.

1. The desaturated versions ALWAYS look worse than the saturated versions, as proven by the examples in this thread.

2. The official art was drawn 2 decades ago long before they ever considered switching to 3D models for the main series.

3. Almost every other form of media (anime, TCG, side games, etc.) ignores the official art colours. For example, New Snap used saturated colours for their models. Even Go, which uses the game models, sometimes uses more saturated colours.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:16:12 No.55724565 Report

Quoted By: >>55724578 >>55724634 >>55724639 >>55724653 >>55725005

>>55724526
hope this helps
>>55724542
Masuda said when working on XY they wanted to make the 3D models look like the Sugimori artwork, the official art has always been the accurate colors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:16:13 No.55724567 Report

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>>55724542
>as proven by the examples in this thread
The same examples that are always posted. No one cares about your cherry picked complaints.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:16:59 No.55724573 Report

Quoted By: >>55724589 >>55724653 >>55725005 >>55725027

I hate what they did to Swampert, holy shit. How the fuck has GAME FREAK not realised people don't want the Sugimori colours after a fucking decade?

Left: Swampert's menu sprite in SV
Center: Swampert's model in Unite
Right: Swampert's model in SV

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:17:11 No.55724574 Report

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>>55724496
>>55724512
>>55724517
I thought it was because TPC wanted to match Ken Sugimori's modern pokemon designs, they seems to be matching with his work

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:17:56 No.55724578 Report

Quoted By: >>55724624 >>55726497

>>55724565
It looks retarded though. Electrode shouldn't be pink. Masuda is a retarded nostalgia-blinded hack. Sugimori is a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:18:43 No.55724585 Report

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>>55724574
Are you retarded? What arbitrary reason should the models follow the 20 year old artwork for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:19:16 No.55724589 Report

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>>55724573
Swampert isn't in Unite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:19:23 No.55724591 Report

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>>55724496
*Creatures Inc.
>>55724526
Sugimori Official Artwork colors

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:20:00 No.55724596 Report

Quoted By: >>55724653 >>55724704 >>55725005

>>55724496
>games directed by the lead team and Ohmori use shit "faithful" colors
>games directed by the secondary team use the brighter colors
B team chads, we can't stop winning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:21:00 No.55724605 Report

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Electrode isn’t in Sword and Shield though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:22:11 No.55724616 Report

Quoted By: >>55725811

>>55724589
My bad, that image is a fan mockup.

But that makes my point even stronger. Unofficial, more saturated colours for the old Pokémon is superior to following artwork made 20 years ago not designed for the 3D games.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:23:12 No.55724624 Report

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>>55724578
that many bright colors all moving around in the overworld would look bad, they'd look like toys stapled onto the terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:24:17 No.55724634 Report

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>>55724565
Maybe they shouldn't be using water color renditions of pokemon for how they should actually look.
>pokeballs are white and red
>electrode, the pokeball mimic pokemon, is white and kinda pink

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:24:44 No.55724639 Report

Quoted By: >>55724653 >>55726497

>>55724565
>>55724574
>>55724624
so basically, ken needs to die
>>55724585
>modern pokemon designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:25:33 No.55724647 Report

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>>55724624
Yeah, I forgot animals don't have bright colors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:26:24 No.55724653 Report

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>>55724496
>>55724512
>>55724517
>>55724526
>>55724527
>>55724542
>>55724565
>>55724573
>>55724574
>>55724585
>>55724596
>>55724624
>>55724634
>>55724639
please undertandu

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:26:25 No.55724654 Report

Quoted By: >>55724672

>>55724624
Ok, so, every Pokémon past Gen 5 should be deleted then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:26:45 No.55724655 Report

Quoted By: >>55724708

>>55724527
>official art
>how it's supposed to look like
1. wrong
2. who cares what it's "supposed to" look like? I care about quality over creator intent because I'm not a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:27:02 No.55724656 Report

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>>55724496
Why does everything in Pokemon look so disgustingly washed out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:28:05 No.55724663 Report

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>>55724624
>they'd look like toys stapled onto the terrain
...they already do.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:29:19 No.55724672 Report

Quoted By: >>55725005 >>55725027

>>55724654
>so, every Pokémon past Gen 5 should be deleted then?
be careful, you might not like my answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:32:44 No.55724690 Report

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>>55724496
The Masuda's A team said they wanted to be "faithful to Sugimori's watercolor" and desaturated the colors, the B team uses the normal more saturated colors like the older games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:34:43 No.55724704 Report

Quoted By: >>55724716 >>55725467

>>55724596
Where the fuck did you get a “”SwSH model”” for Paras and Parasect considering that those don’t exist?

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:35:14 No.55724708 Report

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>>55724655
>the official illustration is wrong thats why they used those colors when they remade all the Pokemon for 3D

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:36:21 No.55724716 Report

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>>55724704
SwSh and BDSP use the same models and palletes, just with a different renderer. It's not disingenous to list BDSP exclusives under "SwSh" or vice versa.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:36:51 No.55724722 Report

Quoted By: >>55725005 >>55725027

>>55724708
>the official illustration is wrong thats why they used those colors when they remade all the Pokemon for 3D
Yes. They made the wrong decision.

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:37:40 No.55724726 Report

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>>55724496
>>55724527
Gengar got ruined after Gen 2

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Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 21:38:56 No.55724732 Report

Quoted By: >>55725005

>>55724708
Saturated model looks infinitely better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 22:11:53 No.55724891 Report

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>>55724708
the official illustration is wrong because it was made far after Gengar had an established look at retconned it >>55724726

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 22:28:14 No.55724980 Report

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So it’s obvious people prefer the more saturated and vibrant looking colors. And the comparison with Legends Arceus proves they can still use the vibrant colors if they want. Basically comes to art direction of the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 22:33:16 No.55725005 Report

Quoted By: >>55725440

>>55724496
>>55724512
>>55724517
>>55724526
>>55724527
>>55724565
>>55724573
>>55724596
>>55724672
>>55724722
>>55724726
>>55724732
biggest goyslop on the planet and you retards keep giving their money

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Apr 2024 22:38:58 No.55725027 Report

Quoted By: >>55725459 >>55725927

>>55724496
Unsaturated Leafeon is better
>>55724512
Saturated is better but should be dialed down a bit
>>55724517
Both are okay
>>55724526
Saturated is better
>>55724573
Unsaturated is better, but orange could pop a bit more
>>55724624
Unsaturated is better
>>55724672
Unsaturated is better. The orange marks are more appealing than the red ones
>>55724708
Unsaturated is better
>>55724722
Both Golems are fine. Prefer the unsaturated Nidoking in that picture, but would still look to see it get a bit more saturation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:27:44 No.55725440 Report

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>>55725005
i haven't bought any of the switch titles other than PLA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:34:38 No.55725459 Report

Quoted By: >>55725812

>>55725027
>Unsaturated is better
Biggest cuck opinion I've ever seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:34:45 No.55725462 Report

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>>55724496
LGPE was also pretty vibrant

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:35:48 No.55725467 Report

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>>55724704
I know you SWSHills don't like this but BDSP was very much in the SWSHit style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:39:17 No.55725475 Report

Quoted By: >>55725483

>>55724624
Also remember the old sprites were designed for screens that look more washed out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:40:58 No.55725483 Report

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>>55725475
Also remember the Sugimori art (any concept art really) was designed to be mostly on white backgrounds and demonstrated a Pokemon with maximum light shining on it.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:42:23 No.55725487 Report

Quoted By: >>55725529

>>55724512
>>55724517
They're just filters. I always thought it was funny how they were bragging about using filters but based on the reaction it makes sense why the simple minded are impressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:53:46 No.55725522 Report

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>>55724496

You're obviously a NEET, you wouldn't understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 00:55:28 No.55725529 Report

Quoted By: >>55725642 >>55725717

>>55725487
Well no, if you rip the models directly the actual colors on them are very different.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 01:23:32 No.55725642 Report

Quoted By: >>55725930

>>55725529
>the actual colors on them are very different
From how they show up in the game because of filters?.. Yes. I can't believe you are arguing against the people who actually made the game, it's their presentation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 01:43:24 No.55725709 Report

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holy autism, batman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 01:47:19 No.55725717 Report

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>>55725529
Anon discovers post-processing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 01:58:10 No.55725740 Report

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They keep switching artstyles because they know if another game has the exact same style people would complain why they didn’t port Pokemon over and so they keep making model textures to excuse them from doing so

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 02:19:52 No.55725811 Report

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>>55724616
That artwork from 20 years ago is still used today

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 02:20:35 No.55725812 Report

Quoted By: >>55725972

>>55725459
>cuck expert
Congrats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 02:35:38 No.55725852 Report

Quoted By: >>55725882

>>55724496
Pla was original model work the others have been confirmed ported from 3DS/new snap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 02:46:43 No.55725882 Report

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>>55725852
wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 02:54:33 No.55725905 Report

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>>55724496
SV is so fucking ugly

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Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 03:03:37 No.55725927 Report

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>>55725027
FAAAAAAAAAAAGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 03:04:34 No.55725930 Report

Quoted By: >>55725952

>>55725642
Doesn't the image disprove your post Anon?
The textures are saturated on the left and they're satured in-game too (hell they're actually slightly desaturated)

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Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 03:14:48 No.55725952 Report

Quoted By: >>55725972

>>55725930
I don't know Anon, the people who made the game are saying they use the same models and make the games look different with filters but you can go ask them yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 03:20:35 No.55725972 Report

Quoted By: >>55726043 >>55727689

>>55725812
>cuck expert
That would be you cocksucking worse colors pretending they’re better.
>>55725952
We know for a fact they’re lying because of other tweaks in the models, such as texturing. Colors also would naturally be altered slightly between games. There’s no way to apply a filter that magically shifts every color in a model to match the sprites, as they would all change different amounts.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 03:49:32 No.55726043 Report

Quoted By: >>55727666

>>55725972
sure thing bud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 07:10:57 No.55726473 Report

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>>55724496
Different teams fighting over what the pokemon should look like I'm sure
One team realizes they look better with their sprite coloration, the other hangs onto the autistic official art thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 07:21:02 No.55726497 Report

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>>55724578
>Sugimori is a retard.
>>55724639
>so basically, ken needs to die
why is this Ken Sugimori's fault when he was simply doing a less saturated art style at the time. He didn't say "hey, color match everything I do exactly unless it's my earlier art of Jynx"

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Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 12:02:41 No.55727060 Report

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>>55724526
>Why is it pink?!?!?
He's horny

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 12:03:41 No.55727064 Report

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>>55724496
PLA Gengar is easily the best one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 12:23:04 No.55727123 Report

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>>55724496
LGPE - To look like the anime
SWSH - To look like the sugimori art
PLA - To look like Japanese artwork
SV - To look like shit like the rest of the graphics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 15:19:10 No.55727666 Report

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>>55726043
You realize that doesn’t disprove my post, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 15:25:02 No.55727689 Report

Quoted By: >>55728651

>>55725972
>reee anyone that insults me is the same person that I'm seething over
kek kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 17:36:33 No.55728295 Report

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>>55724496
>SV
>old pokemon look desaturated
>new pokemon look oversatured
What is going on with the quality control?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 18:37:20 No.55728651 Report

Quoted By: >>55728794

>>55727689
Who are you even quoting, schizo? Seems no one can respond to my post properly without pretending I accused them of samefagging when I didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 19:04:27 No.55728794 Report

Quoted By: >>55728812

>>55728651
>That would be you cocksucking worse colors pretending they’re better.
I don't know if you need psychiatric or literacy assistance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 19:08:23 No.55728812 Report

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>>55728794
Prove it's not the same person then. Post a screenshot within three minutes or else it's edited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Apr 2024 22:15:51 No.55729777 Report

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>>55724496
NGL I wouldn't mind if they leaned even harder into the Sugimori artstyle and gave the textures a subtle watercolour effect, really aiming for a "3D painting" vibe. Would be pretty cool, and certainly preferable to SV's dogshit "realism" style.

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